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    donho
    last edited by donho Jun 6, 2017, 6:15 PM May 18, 2017, 1:12 AM

    3 major issues have been found in v7.4 which was released few days ago:

    • Notepad++ hanging issue on start up due to its connection on Internet(for the certification chain verification).
    • The opened zero length file not saving bug.
    • Document Peeker performance issue for large files.

    These 3 issues have been fixed in 7.4.1:
    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/notepad-7.4.1-released.html

    Sorry for the inconvenience.

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      UlyssesWu
      last edited by May 19, 2017, 3:53 PM

      I’m still facing the hanging issue on start up in v7.4.1.
      I don’t think be online is so important for a notepad.

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        donho @UlyssesWu
        last edited by May 20, 2017, 9:25 AM

        @UlyssesWu Make sure your Notepad++ version is v7.4.1 but not v7.4

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          th_user_
          last edited by May 22, 2017, 6:12 PM

          For the View->Show Symbol->Show White Space and Tab option, is there any way to restore the previous size of the dot used to indicate a space character? It looks much more prominent now and I do not prefer the change. Thanks

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            Daniel Fuchs @th_user_
            last edited by May 23, 2017, 9:39 AM

            @th_user_ I noticed the same “issue”; the old space indicator was 1x1 px and worked really well. The new size disturbs the reading flow. Even setting another color in the style options don’t help much.

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              Scott Sumner
              last edited by May 23, 2017, 12:14 PM

              @th_user_ and @Daniel-Fuchs

              I don’t believe this is ultra-simple (like via a Preferences option) to change; however it can be done; see this thread for some of the ways: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/13775/changing-colors-of-the-space-and-other-symbols-when-view-all-is-turned-on

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                Ted Knetzer
                last edited by May 23, 2017, 2:12 PM

                I recently updated to 7.4.1 and have encountered an error when trying to save a newly created text file. Content size does not matter.

                Same Issue as reported: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/13854/failed-to-save-file-not-enough-space-on-disk-to-save-file

                The issue is reproducible on my machine but I have not yet ran debugger against it.

                I reverted back to version 7.3.3 and have not been able to reproduce the issue.

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                  Ted Knetzer @Ted Knetzer
                  last edited by May 23, 2017, 6:02 PM

                  @Ted-Knetzer

                  Please disregard… looks like I was actually running on version 7.4 originally … not 7.4.1

                  I updated to 7.4.1 and have not experienced the issue.

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                    mkupper
                    last edited by May 25, 2017, 6:43 PM

                    The document peeker is horrifying. I did not like it at all as

                    1. The peek tiles snap up with no delay. I get hit with a blizzard of junk popping up when I moved mouse to the menu bar or over to a tab I wanted to view. You should show the peek tiles only if the person hovers on a tab for (configurable) milliseconds and to default this to about 1000 ms. Once you are in tile display mode I could see that it makes sense to instantly pop up the next tile if someone moves the mouse to the left or right. This would match how the existing hovertip of the full file path works though as the peek tiles are more intrusive the delay should be longer than that for hovertips.

                    2. The peek tiles are impossible to read and so contain next to zero useful information. See http://i.imgur.com/cqfGgOl.png for a screen shot. Notepad is used to edit text files which all look the same when you shrink them to the size of postage stamps. Maybe it works for Edge’s display of web pages but not so much for text files. You should add a configuration option to allow people to set the peek tile size.

                    3. The peek tiles have focus. This causes the main notepad++ window to loose focus and to gray out. This is visually/mentally distracting. It’s startling to have an app’s focus snap off as you are moving the mouse around within notepad++ and happen to pass over the tabs area. I use the classic windows look which has a plain and flat blue title bar. Maybe it works in Aero where you can’t tell at a glance which window has focus. Related to the focus issue is that you can’t work with the peek tiles the way you do with search/replace for example. It also does not make sense that they have focus as the user is not clicking or doing some action to cause the tiles to appear.

                    4. Document Peeker” as a setting in General / Tabs. It would control the same field as MISC. / Document Peeker / Peek on tab. You can add a hovertip here that there are more Document Peeker settings available in the MISC. section.

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                      guy038
                      last edited by guy038 May 25, 2017, 9:49 PM May 25, 2017, 8:49 PM

                      Hello, @donho

                      Some of us detected a major and random bug, in the two menu options, below, with Notepad++ v7.4.1 :-((

                      • Search > Replace > Replace All in All Opened documents

                      • Search > Find in Files > Replace in Files

                      In addition, it’s rather annoying because you cannot determine, easily, how many files are replaced and how many are not !

                      Refer to the link, below :

                      https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/13865/replace-all-in-all-open-documents-problem-in-7-4-1/1

                      Don, could you have a look ? Many thanks, in advance, for investigating !

                      Best Regards,

                      guy038

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                        mkupper
                        last edited by May 25, 2017, 9:17 PM

                        Regarding the comments on View->Show Symbol->Show White Space.

                        I agree that the new space indicator is a bit intrusive when viewing text such as this paragraph in Notepad++. The smaller dot used prior to v7.4 was better for text.

                        The larger dot used in v7.4 and v7.4.1 is better for seeing the spaces in long runs of spaces. Even there I normally only care about is space vs. tab. I’d LOVE to see something that made tabs stand out more. I regularly do Ctrl-F, switch to mark tab, search for \t, and mark all. (I probably should do a macro for that one). Sometimes I want to make sure data is tab aligned and other times I want to make sure there are no tabs in use at all in a section of a document.

                        If this area were to become configurable then I’d like to see control over:

                        • The character, color, and background used to display spaces. For example, some people may prefer to use ⎵ (U+23B5) or ⌂ (U+2302).
                        • The characters, color, and background used to display tabs. If I could could control this one I’d go with a orange background and perhaps white foreground.
                        • The characters, color, and background used to display symbols such as CR and LF. I’ve always found the existing black background to be distracting.
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                          mkupper @guy038
                          last edited by May 25, 2017, 10:04 PM

                          @guy038 said:

                          In addition, it’s rather annoying because you cannot determine, easily, how many files are replaced and how many are not !

                          I have always used the tab colors for this. Prior to a change/replace on all opened files I do Ctrl-Shift-S to do a save-all. That both makes sure I have a backup of the files available should I make a mistake with that mass search/replace and it changes the colors all of the tabs to be blue. I then do the search-replace using replace-all-in-all-opened-documents. The tabs of the files that were changed turn red.

                          Granted - that does not give you a count of the number of files that were changed. I suspect it would be easy to add the count to the status line message though adding a count of the number of files not changed seems like overkill. For example “Replaced 400 occurrences in 304 files. (Search text not found in 196 open files)”

                          Related to this is I’d also like to see “Close all that are not dirty” added. Sometimes I have hundreds of files open and use replace-all-in-all-opened-documents. While it’s easy to scroll through the document list using Ctrl-PageDown or Ctrl-PageUp it’s hard to spot the blue/red tabs when scrolling rapidly. Thus I’ve wished for at times a “Close all that are not dirty” feature that would close all files that have not been changed leaving me with just the red tabs. I could then inspect those, using Ctrl-Z (undo), F3 a bunch of times to view the results of the search-text, and Ctrl-Y (redo) as needed to inspect the changes in that file. For now what I’ve been doing is to go to a clean (blue) tab and to hold Ctrl-W (close) down letting the keyboard auto-repeat. That will close long strings of blue tabs. When it hits a red tab the save yes/no? warning pops up. I let go of the Ctrl-W, hit ESC to cancel the warning, and Ctrl-PageDown to the next blue tab. That works but is painful when it’s a random mix of clean/dirty files.

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                            guy038
                            last edited by guy038 May 26, 2017, 1:44 AM May 26, 2017, 1:43 AM

                            Hi, mkupper,

                            Oh yes , you’re right ! It just that I, mainly, did all my tests, with the Replace in Files dialog. With that feature, any modified file is automatically re-written ! But, if I click on the Replace All in All Opened Documents button, of the Replace dialog, as Claudia did, the modified files are not saved and, therefore, their icons have the red colour. Unfortunately, some icons keep their blue colour, as not modified :-((

                            BTW, I vote for the your more complete message : Replaced xxx occurrences in yyy files

                            Best Regards,

                            guy038

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                              Scott Sumner @mkupper
                              last edited by May 26, 2017, 2:15 PM

                              @mkupper

                              I’d also like to see “Close all that are not dirty” added

                              This is easy enough to do with a bit of Pythonscripting; here’s CloseAllSavedFiles.py :

                              for (filename, bufferID, index, view) in notepad.getFiles():
                                  notepad.activateFile(filename)
                                  if not editor.getModify():
                                      notepad.close()
                              
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                                David Bailey
                                last edited by May 26, 2017, 8:46 PM

                                Is it possible to turn off the document peeker - I agree with Mkupper (above), these are really horrible and pointless. I mean unless perhaps I was building images out of coloured characters, I can’t think of anything they would be good for!

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                                  Claudia Frank @David Bailey
                                  last edited by May 26, 2017, 9:02 PM

                                  @David-Bailey

                                  Settings->Preferences->MISC uncheck Peek on tab etc…

                                  Cheers
                                  Claudia

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                                    Андрей Бобровский
                                    last edited by May 27, 2017, 2:05 PM

                                    Preferences >> MISC. >> Auto-indent, does not work

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                                      guy038
                                      last edited by guy038 May 27, 2017, 4:51 PM May 27, 2017, 4:50 PM

                                      Hello, @андрей-бобровский,

                                      The auto-indent feature does work for me, on a fresh de-zipped v7.4.1 version of N++, with the default plugins

                                      So, you should try without any plugin, by renaming,temporary, the Plugins folder or by launching N++ with the -noPlugin option, in a DOS console windows.

                                      Best Regards,

                                      guy038

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                                        David Bailey
                                        last edited by May 27, 2017, 7:25 PM

                                        I gave up on this version after it ‘hung’. What seemed to happen was that one window hung with an odd icon in the tab. Other windows still responded.

                                        I’ll try 7.4.2 when it comes along!

                                        David

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                                          mkupper @Андрей Бобровский
                                          last edited by May 27, 2017, 8:29 PM

                                          @Андрей-Бобровский said:

                                          Preferences >> MISC. >> Auto-indent, does not work

                                          Auto-indent works but I suspect it does not do what you expected and so you’ll need to explain more about what you did, what happened, and what you expected. Also, what type (language) of files are you editing? If auto-indent worked for you before then what version of Notepad++ were you using?

                                          When enabled auto-indent does two things:

                                          1. it copies the leading spaces/tabs on the current line when you press <enter> to add a new line. For example, in a new/empty file do:
                                            <space>a<enter>b<enter><tab>c<enter>d<enter>
                                            If auto-indent is enabled then you should see:
                                            ⎵a
                                            ⎵b
                                            ───>c
                                            ───>d
                                            ───>(cursor is here)
                                            the b and d lines were auto-indented and the last blank line with cursor is also auto-indented to match line d.

                                          2. Some of the languages supported by Notepad++ employ auto-indenting to make code blocks more visible. If your problem is related to one of languages then you likely should spin off a separate thread unless it’s something that broke when upgrading to v7.4.1.

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