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    dinkumoil
    last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 8:30 PM

    I wasn’t exact too. :-(

    Under So called “local installation” the 3rd sentence has to be:

    In this case in Notepad++ versions prior to v7.6 the plugins had been stored in directory <Npp-installation-directory>\plugins.

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      Scott Sumner @dinkumoil
      last edited by Scott Sumner Nov 14, 2018, 8:37 PM Nov 14, 2018, 8:36 PM

      @dinkumoil said:

      Do you think this is another case for adding a FAQ? If you think my explanations are too long feel free to shorten them.

      Probably, although I’d prefer to not be the one doing that posting (I guess there are a limited number of us with FAQ write permission), mainly because I don’t have the enthusiasm for fact-checking it all first. Reason: I won’t be using the new plugin system for a long time yet, if ever. Thus I don’t see myself answering questions or participating in discussions here relating to it.

      BTW, your explanations read very well (again, not fact-checking), your English is excellent, shortening them would be a shame.

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        Michael DiGregorio @dinkumoil
        last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 8:48 PM

        @dinkumoil

        Thank you for your explanation. I was having issues with my plug-ins until reading this. (I use a portable installation.) Though the one difference that I found is that, though the DLL files need to go in the folder named after the DLL, the config/ini files for each plug-in need to reside in the …/plugins/config folder.

        Now that that my plug-in issue is solved, the only remaining issue is that I don’t see any mention of a Plugins Admin when I open NPP. Though I guess perhaps it doesn’t work on portable installs. I don’t know.

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          dinkumoil
          last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 10:46 PM

          @Scott-Sumner

          Yes, I understand you. This new Plugin Admin is not the best idea Don had the last time…

          But v7.6 introduces also some useful fixes (e.g. better automatic encoding detection) and I guess the old Plugin Manager will die soon. Nevertheless, in the near future I stay at Npp v7.5.6 and use the good old Plugin Manager, until the the worst quirks of Npp v7.6 have been removed.

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            dinkumoil
            last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

            @Michael-DiGregorio said:

            the one difference that I found is that, … , the config/ini files for each plug-in need to reside in the …/plugins/config folder.

            You are right. I wrote that in the header of my explanations:

            @dinkumoil said:

            The INI files which store the plugins settings can stay in their current location in every case.

            I would have preferred to repeat that explicitly in the explanation for every installation scenario but the 3 minute deadline for changing a comment had been expired.

            @Michael-DiGregorio said:

            I guess perhaps it doesn’t work on portable installs

            That is correct. Currently there is a problem that has to be solved before portable installations are able to use Plugin Admin.

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              Dominique Lavarenne
              last edited by Nov 15, 2018, 2:09 PM

              Thank you all but, as I feared, your answers are too complex for my understanding.
              Here is my configuration: Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
              NotePad ++ 32bit (voluntarily), installed in C: \ Program Files (x86) \ Notepad ++
              with NppTextFX.dll installed in C: \ Program Files (x86) \ Notepad ++ \ plugins
              Where is the problem ? And the solution ?

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                rinku singh @Dominique Lavarenne
                last edited by Nov 15, 2018, 2:20 PM

                @Dominique-Lavarenne C:\USERS\ PCNAME\APPDATA\LOCAL\NOTEPAD++\PLUGINS\NppTextFX\NppTextFX.DLL

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                  Dominique Lavarenne
                  last edited by Nov 15, 2018, 5:43 PM

                  In the directory C: \ Users \ DRJMLAPS \ AppData \ Local \ Notepad ++ \ plugins, I created the NppTextFX folder and installed the DLL. The TextFX menu reappeared in the NotePad ++ menu bar.
                  Problem solved. Thanks a lot !

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                    guy038
                    last edited by guy038 Mar 14, 2021, 5:08 PM Nov 15, 2018, 6:03 PM

                    Hello, @Dinkumoil,

                    I think I would be able to move, or if you prefer copy, your post from the General Discussion section to the FAQ section.

                    So, just review your post to complete it, quietly. An when OK, send it to me, by e-mail ;-))

                    Don’t forget to add which title of FAQ you would like. Note that it would be preferable that it begins with the FAQ Desk: string, to be coherent with the other FAQ posts !

                    May be, it would be interesting, too, that it refers, at one moment, to the PeterJones’s explanation of %Appdata% in the FAQ :

                    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/15740/faq-desk-what-is-appdata

                    And don’t worry : I’ll update this FAQ by including later modifications that you want to, if any !

                    Best Regards,

                    guy038

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                      Meta Chuh moderator @dinkumoil
                      last edited by Nov 16, 2018, 11:16 AM

                      @dinkumoil
                      sorry, i didn’t have time yet to test everything after reviewing it but it seems correct

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                        MrOuzo
                        last edited by Nov 26, 2018, 1:42 PM

                        I burned now my 5.5.9… i never update to newer versions, so no problems

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                          Joe Bruns75
                          last edited by Dec 7, 2018, 3:12 PM

                          Do let us know when the plugin issues are fixed. I tried the dll and ini copy to correct folder and no change. Going back to 7.5.9 and probably will stay there.

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                            Joe Bruns75 @dinkumoil
                            last edited by Dec 7, 2018, 5:34 PM

                            @dinkumoil How about just making plugin admin do that work? Why burden the user to do all of that ‘thinking’ and ‘acting’?

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                              dinkumoil
                              last edited by Dec 7, 2018, 8:07 PM

                              @Joe-Bruns75 said:

                              @dinkumoil How about just making plugin admin do that work? Why burden the user to do all of that ‘thinking’ and ‘acting’?

                              I’m sorry, I am not responsible for the situation like it is. The Notepad++ project has one main developer, user @donho . He has founded this project, he makes the major decisions about the direction the program evolves and he decides which features contributed by other programmers make it into a release version and which not.

                              I’m also not happy with the current situation and I agree with you that it is nasty for users to be left alone with the required tasks to switch to v7.6 but I can not change anything.

                              I wrote a batch script to automate the steps required for getting plugins back to a functional state. You can download it here.

                              Please note: I have tested the script under Windows 7 (64 bit). Nevertheless I can not guarantee that it works correctly under all circumstances. Thus, use this script on your own risk. I’m not responsible for any damage caused by executing it. Before using it back up all important data on your hard disk and all directories related to Notepad++ and its configuration.

                              Even after running the script it is not guaranteed that all plugins will work properly, especially plugins coming with companion files may fail to work. This depends on how a plugin internally assembles the access paths to these files. You should thoroughly test every plugin. If you find any regression (e.g. help or documentation doesn’t open, missing icons, error messages at Notepad++ startup concerning a certain plugin) try to copy back the files/folders related with the plugin in question to their previous location. Additionally you should contact the developer of the plugin to request an update that adopts the new plugin hosting model of Notepad++.

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                                Dominique Lavarenne
                                last edited by Dec 13, 2018, 10:34 PM

                                Hello all!

                                About a month ago, I asked you to know how to put in the menu bar of NotePad ++ the TextFX menu, disappeared since the transition to version 7.6.

                                Gurikbal Singh gave me the solution in his answer here: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/16629/notepad-7-6-and-the-plugin-textfx/11

                                Unfortunately, when I installed version 7.6.1 today, I lost the TextFX menu again. Where is the error?

                                I thank you in advance for helping me out…

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                                  dinkumoil
                                  last edited by Dec 13, 2018, 10:38 PM

                                  @Dominique-Lavarenne

                                  The location for storing plugins has been changed once more. Have a look at this and this posting to fix that.

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                                    Dominique Lavarenne
                                    last edited by Dec 13, 2018, 11:17 PM

                                    It’s annoying, these changes…
                                    But thanks dinkumoil, it works!

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                                      rinku singh @Dominique Lavarenne
                                      last edited by Jan 1, 2019, 3:02 PM

                                      @Dominique-Lavarenne said:

                                      Hello all!

                                      About a month ago, I asked you to know how to put in the menu bar of NotePad ++ the TextFX menu, disappeared since the transition to version 7.6.

                                      Gurikbal Singh gave me the solution in his answer here: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/16629/notepad-7-6-and-the-plugin-textfx/11

                                      Unfortunately, when I installed version 7.6.1 today, I lost the TextFX menu again. Where is the error?

                                      I thank you in advance for helping me out…

                                      “C:\ProgramData\Notepad++\plugins\NppTextFX\NppTextFX.DLL”

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                                        MonarchX
                                        last edited by Jan 3, 2019, 12:03 AM

                                        I got the 64bit plugin to show up, but it doesn’t do anything. CSV files are displays separated by commas, not tabs or equal-spaces. The TextFX Lineup Multiple Files by (,) does nothing, doesn’t work.

                                        How can it be that there are no free tools that can display this format correctly for editing, aside from OpenOffice???

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                                          Alan Kilborn @MonarchX
                                          last edited by Jan 3, 2019, 1:42 AM

                                          @MonarchX

                                          CSV files are displays separated by commas…How can it be that there are no free tools that can display this format correctly for editing

                                          Okay, so Notepad++ is a text editor. A CSV file is a text file that has commas in it as textual characters. So when you open it with Notepad++, you see commas. Notepad++ is displaying it correctly for editing, as far as it is chartered to do.

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