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    Nino-kun
    last edited by Nov 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

    Regression in save on exit.
    Both “Remember current session for next launch” and “Enable session snapshot and periodic backup” are enabled in Preferences.
    If I close Notepad++ manually by pressing X, all works as expected - no save dialogs for changed files, program silently close and on next start all files opened again.
    If I restart Windows while Notepad++ still running, I get “This program preventing restart”, because N++ open save dialogs for all unsaved files.
    v8.4.6 behave identical in both cases.

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      xomx @Nino-kun
      last edited by Nov 17, 2022, 10:44 PM

      @Nino-kun
      Hi, this is not regression but feature.

      If this new safer behavior bothers you, simply click on the “Restart anyway” in the blue Windows restart screen and you will get the same as before (“…close and on next start all files opened again.”).

      But if you have some important unsaved stuff in N++, I recommend to change the habit and save files before initiating the OS restart/shutdown.

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        donho @xomx
        last edited by donho Nov 18, 2022, 3:21 PM Nov 18, 2022, 3:17 PM

        @xomx
        I’ve just observed 2 different behaviours, here’s the scenario to reproduce the 1st behaviour:

        1. open only 1 existing file in Notepad++
        2. add some text in the opened file without save it
        3. restart windows, “This program preventing restart” dialog appear, click on Cancel - the opened unsaved file is saved now.

        Whereas if user clicks on Restart anyway, relaunch Notepad++ after Windows restarting, the file in question is still unsaved (the 2nd behaviour).

        I would add a message box “Windows is forcing restarting. Do you want to save unsaved file” before the save all line:
        https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/master/PowerEditor/src/NppBigSwitch.cpp#L2131
        And this line will be executed only when user replies Yes.

        What do you think?

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          xomx @donho
          last edited by Nov 18, 2022, 5:32 PM

          @donho

          I can confirm this inconsistency, good catch!

          Reason - I overlooked this line:
          https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/6803b69c0b92057d2ac5700b7a312a6cf2f82b39/PowerEditor/src/NppIO.cpp#L1669

          So if I have 2 or more dirty files, it works as I intended - showing this dlg to the user:
          IDM_FILE_SAVEALL.png

          But for just one dirty file it directly saves without asking.

          Now about the solution.

          If we do what you proposed, there will be short (~5s I think) hang before the blue Windows restart screen with the “Restart anyway” & “Cancel” appears. That will be because of we did not immediately return TRUE/FALSE in the WM_QUERYENDSESSION as we should (Windows then thinks that the app hangs and arranges things according to that).

          So I’d rather adjust the problematic line in the Notepad_plus::fileSaveAll() to something like:

          if (nbDirty == 1 && curBuf->isDirty() && !nppParam.isEndSessionStarted())
          
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            donho @xomx
            last edited by donho Nov 19, 2022, 3:17 AM Nov 19, 2022, 3:15 AM

            @xomx said in Notepad++ v8.4.7 Release:

            So I’d rather adjust the problematic line in the Notepad_plus::fileSaveAll() to something like:

            There’s no reason for me to modify bool Notepad_plus::fileSaveAll(), because since this function is used everywhere, it could bring another regression.
            Let’s focus on where there’s the problem to prevent from the regression.

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              Nino-kun
              last edited by Nov 19, 2022, 6:05 AM

              I don’t get it, how this feature work. Program doesn’t try to save all modified files on manual exit.
              It would be logical to behave identical on normal/manual exit and OS restart, but now N++ doesn’t do that.

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                xomx @donho
                last edited by Nov 19, 2022, 9:13 AM

                @donho said in Notepad++ v8.4.7 Release:

                There’s no reason for me to modify bool Notepad_plus::fileSaveAll(), because since this function is used everywhere, it could bring another regression.

                What my proposal would do is to return the status before this speed optimization (1st in v8.4.3):

                “Skip save all warning dialog if only current editing file is dirty. (Fix #10995)”

                But only in case that Windows is being terminated.

                It is simple patch and it reuses already existing N++ code, but if you do not like it, we can create a new N++ message (e.g. IDM_FILE_SAVEALL_AT_SHUTDOWN), where we show your message to the users and so on…

                Should I create an issue for this where we can continue in discussion about solution?

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                  xomx @Nino-kun
                  last edited by xomx Nov 19, 2022, 9:38 AM Nov 19, 2022, 9:37 AM

                  @Nino-kun said in Notepad++ v8.4.7 Release:

                  It would be logical to behave identical on normal/manual exit and OS restart, but now N++ doesn’t do that.

                  Simply saying - you are right.

                  I took the opportunity to alert the users that they do not have data (standardly) saved. So if there is a non-critical OS restart/shutdown users are now notified about this fact and by selecting “Cancel” on the restart screen, they can handle this. Otherwise by clicking on the “Restart anyway” they are relying on the N++ backup engine as before.

                  @donho
                  What do you think - should we also fix this “inconsistency” in between the normal N++ exit and N++ exit forced by OS restart/shutdown?

                  (possible solution is easy - just adding one more check for the active isSnapshotMode…)

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                    donho @xomx
                    last edited by Nov 19, 2022, 12:32 PM

                    @xomx said in Notepad++ v8.4.7 Release:

                    Should I create an issue for this where we can continue in discussion about solution?

                    Yes, please.

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                      xomx @donho
                      last edited by Nov 19, 2022, 10:07 PM

                      @donho

                      Done, #12541 . You can assign it to me.

                      I hope you don’t mind that I combined both the N++ exit inconsistencies reported here into one issue. Otherwise let me know and I split these to two separate issues.

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                        donho @donho
                        last edited by Nov 21, 2022, 3:22 AM

                        FYI: Auto-update for Notepad++ v8.4.7 has been triggered.

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                          PeterJones @donho
                          last edited by Nov 30, 2022, 3:22 PM

                          @donho ,

                          Unfortunately, @Craig-O-Neil has just reported a v8.4.7 regression in “New document | Default langauge not working for new NP++ instance”. I confirmed it and created the issue #12586.

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                          • Professor AndreyP
                            Professor Andrey
                            last edited by Dec 11, 2022, 8:20 AM

                            I have a small (bag)

                            Please add Notepad++ on windows 11 context menu !

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                              PeterJones @Professor Andrey
                              last edited by PeterJones Dec 11, 2022, 4:47 PM Dec 11, 2022, 4:44 PM

                              @Professor-Andrey said in Notepad++ v8.4.7 Release:

                              I have a small (bag)

                              Please add Notepad++ on windows 11 context menu !

                              Windows 11 has intentionally hidden that away, to steer users into a single Open With application. You can see the old-style menu by using Show More Options in the Right-click menu, or using Shift+F10 instead of Right clicking.

                              …
                              Or see the user manual section on the right -click for Windows 11 on this page: https://npp-user-manual.org/docs/other-resources/

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                              • TroshinDVT
                                TroshinDV
                                last edited by Dec 12, 2022, 6:32 PM

                                Notepad++ v8.4.7 (64-bit)
                                Build time : Nov 1 2022 - 23:31:11
                                Path : C:_ProgramF\Notepad++_portable\npp.8.4.7.portable.x64\notepad++.exe
                                Command Line :
                                Admin mode : ON
                                Local Conf mode : ON
                                Cloud Config : OFF
                                OS Name : Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
                                OS Build : 7601.24511
                                Current ANSI codepage : 1251
                                Plugins :
                                Explorer (1.9.5)
                                mimeTools (2.9)
                                NppConverter (4.5)
                                NppExport (0.4)

                                Screenshot_232.png

                                Screenshot_233.png

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                                  PeterJones @TroshinDV
                                  last edited by Dec 12, 2022, 6:43 PM

                                  @TroshinDV ,

                                  Yes, “enable smooth font” slightly changes how the font appears. this isn’t specific to v8.4.7, and is rather the point of the option.

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                                  • Mike7OM
                                    Mike7O
                                    last edited by Mike7O Dec 12, 2022, 6:58 PM Dec 12, 2022, 6:57 PM

                                    v8.4.7 this happens / worked in 8.4.6
                                    trying to open/edit multiple files …didn’t find any solution for it, however a lot of old reports showing the same errors

                                    Skärmbild 2022-12-12 195604.jpg

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                                      PeterJones @Mike7O
                                      last edited by Dec 12, 2022, 7:14 PM

                                      @Mike7O ,

                                      Windows ShellExecute is limited in the number of characters it will accept; this was true in v8.4.6 and is still true in v8.4.7, because it’s part of the Microsoft Windows win32-api definition for maximum command length.

                                      You might consider not opening so many files from the same right-click from Explorer; then you can select the second half, and unless you have done something like telling Notepad++ to always open files in multisession, it will add the files to the existing Notepad++ window. Or just open the folder as a workspace from inside Notepad++.

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                                      • Mike7OM
                                        Mike7O @PeterJones
                                        last edited by Dec 12, 2022, 9:48 PM

                                        @PeterJones nice, haven’t explored that many features so anything that makes my work easier is appreciated 🤩

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                                        • Mike7OM
                                          Mike7O @Mike7O
                                          last edited by Dec 14, 2022, 9:10 PM

                                          @Mike7O
                                          still I was able to do it in previous versions … well now I know alternative ways …
                                          googled and this was the solution

                                          https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/topic/10945/shellexecute-failed-2-is-this-command-correct-fix

                                          so run as admin which some settings-changes required I will only do when I need 😎

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