Wrong insertion of text, in the new FIND and REPLACE dialogs
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Hi, All,
Holidays are over and I’m back home. So, let’s resume our discussion. I’m quite sure there are a lot of problems with the new
Search and Replace
dialog, in thev8.8.4
relaease, because of the new feature :4. Increase search input length from 2046 to 16383.
I assume that :
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The
Maximum Size for Auto-Checking "In selection"
, inSettings > Preferences... > Searching
, is set to 0 -
The Search mode of the
Find
dialog is set toNormal
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All other options of the
Find
dialog are unckecked
If I chose these preferences about searching :
And if I consider the text below :
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
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Select the first
1,024
digits, above, leaving the remainder567890
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Open the Find dialog (
Ctrl + F
)
=> You correctly see the first
1,024
characters of this single line are filled in the Find field and can be matched again !-
Close the Find dialog (
Esc
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Select the first
1,025
digits, above, leaving the remainder67890
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Open the Find dialog (
Ctrl + F
) -
Hit the
Delete
key to suppress any text in the Find field ( IMPORTANT ) -
Close the Find dialog (
Esc
) -
Re-open the Find dialog (
Ctrl + F
)
=> The Find field is totally empty ?!
I would have expected that the first
1,025
characters would have been filled in the Find field, because of my preference :Fill Find Field with Selected Text , which is checked
And this should be true from
1,025
to16,383
digits, which is the new limit !
Can anyone confirm this simple test ?
Note that I found out other oddities, that I will develop later. Everything in its own time !
Best Regards,
guy038
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The problem when selecting 1025+ characters as a pre-step is because of this line of code:
FINDREPLACE_INSELECTION_THRESHOLD_DEFAULT
is set to 1024, here:Probably the check against that constant should not be made if
Maximum Size for Auto-Checking "In selection"
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Hello @alan-kilborn and All,
Many thanks, Alan, for detecting the problem : your assumption is surely exact ! So, this is a FIRST bug regarding the
Search
featureNow, here is the SECOND bug :
Whatever the search mode chosen, any selected text, up to the limit (
2046
or16823
), can be pasted in theFind what:
zone ( withCtrl + V
) ONLY IF that text does not contain anyCR
character. As soon as a singleCR
character is met, the pasted text stopped at the last character before thatCR
char.And guess what : I was able to reproduce this behavior even with the last
Win XP
version of Notepad++ which is the7.9.2
release !
In other words, any text pasted in the
Find what:
zone is not complete when you usually works withWindows
orMac
files ! Is there any reason for this behavior ?Thanks, to all, for your investigations !
Best Regards,
guy038
P.S. :
However, note that if a text does not contain any
CR
character, you can paste, as expected, up to16,382
characters in theFind what:
zone, which may be searched later ! -
@guy038 said in Wrong insertion of text, in the new FIND and REPLACE dialogs:
ONLY IF that text does not contain any CR character
This was the root cause in the recent How to replace two separate lines discussion.
Is there any reason for this behavior ?
- Reason that I know for certain: No.
- Reason that I can guess: probably because Don’s original development was focused on single-line replacement, and wasn’t focused on multi-line search-and-replace; and since extended or regex modes allow
\r\n
for multiline searches, being able to paste in a multi-line search (or replace) field probably never felt like a priority to Don. - Reason that is researchable: given the recent “replace two separate lines” discussion, I am quite certain there are more instances in this forum, if you can find the right search terms. And probably one or more open or closed Issues in the GitHub issue tracker. I would definitely do some detailed searching there, because it would very much surprise me if Don hadn’t weighed in on multi-line search/replace improvements before, so there’s probably a canonical answer somewhere in the ~17000 Issues; though good luck finding such a needle in a haystack.
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Hello, @alan-kilborn, @peterjones and All,
Peter, I suppose that your second assumption should be the right one. I also verified this same behavior regarding the
Replace with
zoneThus, until this behavior will be improved, the
Copy/Paste
operations, within theFind/Replace
dialog, works correctly forUnix
-style files only !
However, I noticed that the
Incremental Search
is OK, regarding this problem :-
Select any text with some line-endings, whatever they are
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Open the
Incremental Search
panel (Ctrl + Alt + I
)
=> All the multi-lines block is pasted in the Find zone
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Click on the
>
button to find the next occurrence -
If you select an other multi-lines block of text, simply redo a
Ctrl + Alt + I
operation
=> This new text should appear in the
Find
zone- Click on the
>
button to find the next occurrence
And I pleased to note that, as expected, for the
v8.8.4
release, you can paste up to16,382
characters in the Find zone of theIncremental Search
panel ! For older versions, you can paste till2,046
charsBest Regards,
guy038
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The Find/Replace/… dialog is using ComboBox controls for
Find what
andReplace with
. A ComboBox is a single line control so once it reaches the CR then it truncates the string to that position and discards the rest. The type of control chosen limits the pasting of text by the user.Quote from ComboBox:
Is this the right control?
- Use a drop-down list to let users select a single value from a set of items that can be adequately represented with single lines of text.
- Use a list or grid view instead of a combo box to display items that contain multiple lines of text …
- …
A ComboBox has advantage of being a list though the disadvantage is that it is not designed for multiple lines of text.
The Incremental Search panel is using an Edit control for
Find
. An Edit control is a multi-line control so it does not truncate at CR.This is why some editors use a large Edit control for their Find dialogs for pasting and viewing multiple lines of text. I am not suggesting changing controls or possible workarounds as that would need investigation and testing.
References:
- FindReplaceDlg.rc#L31 Resource line of
Find what
usingCOMBOBOX
- FindReplaceDlg.rc#L33 Resource line of
Replace with
usingCOMBOBOX
- FindReplaceDlg.rc#L106 Resource line of incremental
Find
usingEDITTEXT
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Hi, @alan-kilborn, @peterjones, @mpheath and All,
Thanks, @mpheath, for your very informative post, relative to the
ComboBox
andEditText
controls !So, OK. I think you’re right about it. No need to change anything regarding the pasting behavior in the
Find/Replace
dialogues, presently. We just have to remember to change current file into anUnix
file to have the opportunity to paste up to16,383
characters, in theFind
orReplace
zones, when necessary.Of course, I will create, these next days, an official issue regarding the first bug, confirmed by @alan-kilborn, with a possible solution related in this post :
https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/103072
If accepted, the work-around of using
Unix-style
files would even not be necessary !
Now, one advantage of increasing the search input length from
2,046
to16,383
is when using tokens. Indeed, you can now select any multi-lines text, up to16,383
chars, whatever their line-endings status, and, after using one of the 5Style All Occurrences of Token
options, it should highlight any identical block of text, found in the current file !
I’m also preparing an other post as I noticed that the number of bytes used, when using a
UTF-8
text to be searched, differs, depending on whether :-
You just select that text and open the
Find
dialog -
You copy that text, open and clear the
Find
dialog, then paste that text in theFind what
zone
Best Regards,
guy038
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@guy038 said in Wrong insertion of text, in the new FIND and REPLACE dialogs:
No need to change anything regarding the pasting behavior in the Find/Replace dialogues, presently
I disagree, so I created issue 16952 and will submit a PR for it soon.
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Hi, @alan-kilborn, @peterjones, @mpheath and All,
Alan, you said in your last post :
I disagree, so I created issue 16952 and will submit a PR for it soon.
Thank you for your involvement in finding a solution to this problem !
Now, I also created an issue regarding the
1,024
bug : https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/16955Do you mind investigating in this issue, as well, as you already found out the root of this problem ?
Best Regards,
guy038
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@guy038 said:
Do you mind investigating in this issue, as well, as you already found out the root of this problem ?
Yes, I will also look at that. I have special interest in that, because it is my code addition to Notepad++ that introduced the ability to set the threshold value (the field that you have set to
0
). I wish I’d never done it; I started out with good intentions, but some others got involved and the feature went a little bit “wacky”. -
Hello, @alan-kilborn and All,
Many thanks Alan to look into that issue, too. And, don’t be too upset about this side-effect of adding the threshold value. As we say in France, “you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs” !
Now, I suppose that resolving the other issue
16952
is a bit delicate : we’ll have to take care about :-
The
extended
orregular expression
search mode which already allows syntaxes likeabc\r\ndef
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The
regular expression
search mode which allows multi-lines syntax for a specific regex
Therefore, I am more than willing to help and test your experimental version, if possible, in the hope of eliminating any potential problems : Notepad++'s
Search/Replace/Mark
feature is very powerful. So let’s take the time necessary to ensure it stays that way !Best Regards,
guy038
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@guy038 said:
I suppose that resolving the other issue 16952 is a bit delicate
I don’t see how the 2 points you made about it are of any concern to the fix I proposed.
Also, we may run into the problem that the Notepad++ author is not interested in the fix. -
Hi @alan-kilborn and All,
After some tests, I just realized that it’s already the case ; So, there should not be any problem about it. Here is what I was thinking of :
Consider this simple text :
bla bla abcde fghij bla bla blah bla bla abcde fghij bla bla blah bla bla abcde fghij bla bla blah
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Select the two complete lines
abcde
+ CRLF +fghij
+ CRLF -
Open the Find dialog (
Ctrl+ F
) -
Check the
Wrap around
option -
Choose the
Extended search mode
=> You see, apparently the string
abcdefghij
in the Find what: zone. But, indeed, it contains the real stringabcde\r\nfghij\r\n
. So3
occurrences of this string can be detected !But, if you wrongly think : “As I’m in extended mode, I should add the
\r\n
at the end of each line for a correct search”, nothing will be detected !Of course, you could have found the same correct result, if, without any previous selection, you would have typed the string
abcde\r\nfghij\r\n
in the Find what: zone, tooBest Regards,
guy038
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@guy038 said:
After some tests
…of the version from the PR…
"…in extended mode, I should add the \r\n at the end of each line for a correct search”
Well… I think the answer to that is… don’t do it.
It’s a matter of knowing what your data is. And, admittedly, this is difficult as real
\r
and\n
are invisible in the Find what box. But this is true also if you select some multiline text and press Ctrl+f, it’s not peculiar to the proposed new code.