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    • dinkumoilD
      dinkumoil
      last edited by

      @donho said:

      That’s it. Restart Notepad++ and you get your beloved plugins back.

      That’s not the whole truth. Plugins which need additional files to function properly may or may not fail to work. It depends on how they currently determine the path to their companion files. The new plugin hosting policy requires that a plugin and all its companion files (except the config file) are installed to the same folder. This was not the case in the past.

      Users which are facing problems with their legacy plugins should at first try to copy all files and folders belonging to the plugin in question to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins\myAwesomePlugin. If this doesn’t help they should contact the author of the plugin to request an update that adopts the new plugin hosting model of Notepad++.

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      • cmeriauxC
        cmeriaux
        last edited by

        @donho said:

        In future release version 7.6

        What about moving to version 8.0 because we have a new major feature.

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        • dinkumoilD
          dinkumoil
          last edited by dinkumoil

          After some testing with legacy plugins I want to share my experiences.

          I took an official 32 bit Notepad++ v7.5.9 local installation with various legacy plugins and replaced notepad++.exe with the AppVeyor 32 bit debug build of commit e61fe03 and GUP.exe with the testing binary of 2018-11-02 and tried to get them running.

          1. For every plugin there has to be created a folder %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins\<plugin-DLL-file-name>.
          2. If a legacy plugin has had installed files or folders under <Notepad++-installation-folder>\plugins these files/folders have to be moved to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins\<plugin-DLL-file-name>.
          3. If a legacy plugin has had installed files or folders under <Notepad++-installation-folder>\plugins\doc these files/folders have to be moved to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins\<plugin-DLL-file-name>\doc.

          These are the plugins I’ve tested

          AutoCodepage.dll
          AutoEolFormat.dll
          CodeAlignmentNpp.dll
          ColorPicker.dll
          ComparePlugin.dll
          CSScriptNpp.dll
          CustomizeToolbar.dll
          CustomLineNumbers.dll
          Explorer.dll
          FallingBricks.dll
          HexEditor.dll
          LanguageHelp.dll
          MarkdownViewerPlusPlus.dll
          NavigateTo.dll
          NppBookmarkManager.dll
          NppCalc.dll
          NppColumnSort.dll
          NppCrypt.dll
          NppEventExec.dll
          NppExec.dll
          NppFTP.dll
          NppHorizontalRuler.dll
          NppMenuSearch.dll
          NppRegEx.dll
          NppTextFX.dll
          NppToolBucket.dll
          OpenSelection.dll
          PoorMansTSqlFormatterNppPlugin.dll
          ReloadButton.dll
          SelectQuotedText.dll
          SpeechPlugin.dll
          SQL.dll
          XmlTools.dll

          Details to some plugins

          The AutoCodepage and AutoEolFormat plugins should be updated via new Plugin Admin because they are not able to find their own binaries and their documentation files. The same is true for CustomLineNumbers plugin but there is no update available yet (2018-11-05).

          The BookmarkManager plugin has had installed a directory <Notepad++-installation-folder>\plugins\images. This has to be left there.

          The XmlTools plugin has had installed additional DLL files in <Notepad++-installation-folder>. These have to be left there.

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          • donhoD
            donho @dinkumoil
            last edited by

            @dinkumoil

            That’s not the whole truth. Plugins which need additional files to function properly may or may not fail to work. It depends on how they currently determine the path to their companion files. The new plugin hosting policy requires that a plugin and all its companion files (except the config file) are installed to the same folder. This was not the case in the past.

            You are right about it.

            Users which are facing problems with their legacy plugins should at first try to copy all files and folders belonging to the plugin in question to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins\myAwesomePlugin. If this doesn’t help they should contact the author of the plugin to request an update that adopts the new plugin hosting model of Notepad++.

            Yes, indeed.

            The new plugin loading way is not only KISS (keep it simple, stupid), but also provide a cleaner way to make plugin authors’ life easier (though it’s not the case for some lagacy plugin authors) - all the extra data files/binairies/libraries can be aside of plugin entry (DLL), and use them with the relative path.

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            • dinkumoilD
              dinkumoil
              last edited by

              @donho said:

              all the extra data files/binairies/libraries can be aside of plugin entry (DLL), and use them with the relative path

              That’s right but currently there exists no easy method to query the plugin DLL path. Plugin devs have to deal with the DLL module handle and GetModuleFileName API (which is poorly designed and whose documentation is difficult to understand). Have you already thought about my suggestion here? Another possible unique ID instead of the module handle would be the plugin DLL name.

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              • chcgC
                chcg
                last edited by

                Regarding XmlTools there was already a commit (https://github.com/morbac/xmltools/commit/3b266ec4933bab03dfd84b70f905e6ff69f931c2) to overcome this limitation that companion dlls are search by the N++.exe folder, but that seems not to work.

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                • ImSpecialI
                  ImSpecial
                  last edited by

                  How does this work for people using Notepad++ Portable? Does everything just reside in the Notepad++ directory?

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                  • dinkumoilD
                    dinkumoil
                    last edited by

                    @ImSpecial said:

                    How does this work for people using Notepad++ Portable? Does everything just reside in the Notepad++ directory?

                    Yes, it should be like this.

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                    • pnedevP
                      pnedev
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                      @donho ,

                      It will be useful to implement command Open plugins folder somewhere in the Notepad++ menu (for example in the ? menu or just above Plugins Admin in Plugins menu) that will open the Notepad++ plugins install folder in Windows Explorer.
                      This way the users can quickly find where their plugins are located no matter if Notepad++ is portable or installed or whatever. It will also make troubleshooting problems related to plugins location easier.

                      Tell me what you think.

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                      • donhoD
                        donho @pnedev
                        last edited by donho

                        @pnedev said:

                        It will be useful to implement command Open plugins folder somewhere in the Notepad++ menu (for example in the ? menu or just above Plugins Admin in Plugins menu) that will open the Notepad++ plugins install folder in Windows Explorer.

                        It’s a nice to have feature. But currently I have the other priorities to treat.

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                        • pnedevP
                          pnedev
                          last edited by

                          @donho ,

                          I can implement it but I’m also a bit busy these days. Will do it when I find the time.
                          I will keep you posted.

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                          • pnedevP
                            pnedev
                            last edited by

                            @donho ,

                            Done.
                            Here is the feature request: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/5224
                            and here is the pull request: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/5225 .

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                            • Meta ChuhM
                              Meta Chuh moderator @pnedev
                              last edited by Meta Chuh

                              @pnedev

                              i’ve just tested your commit and it works like a charm.

                              big thumb up as a thanks, double big thumbs up for finding time so quickly … and tripple big thumbs up for the extremely short time it took you after you found the time ;-) 👍👍👍

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                              • Meta ChuhM
                                Meta Chuh moderator
                                last edited by

                                a little side note (also positive), if it is of interest for others:

                                the condition if (hasPlugins() || enablePluginAdmin) was removed in @pnedev 's commit, so there’s a slight change in the default behaviour:

                                before, if plugins admin was disabled or gup not present and no plugins were installed, the plugins menu would disappear completely.
                                (for example in cases where all default plugins were removed, or are in a wrong path structure of a version prior to 7.6.x but using a newer notepad++ binary on top ot this folder structure)

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                                now the plugins menu is always present.
                                so even if there are no plugins installed (all default plugins removed) and plugins admin is not active or present, users are still able to reach the new “open plugins folder…” menu entry to find and reach the plugins folder with a single click of a mouse button, to add any desired plugins manually.

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                                • Zoilo Lagos LopezZ
                                  Zoilo Lagos Lopez
                                  last edited by

                                  And where do I put my “Squirrel Highlighter plugin”? (LUSquirrel.xml)
                                  I used to put it in “C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad ++\plugins\Config\ LUSquirrel.xml” and it worked.
                                  Now, put it where you put it, it does not appear in Notepad ++

                                  In my country there is a clear sentence: “If something works, do not change it”.

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                                  • Meta ChuhM
                                    Meta Chuh moderator @Zoilo Lagos Lopez
                                    last edited by Meta Chuh

                                    hola y bienvenido a la notepad++ community, @Zoilo-Lagos-Lopez

                                    on notepad++ 7.6.6, if your LUSquirrel.xml file begins with:

                                    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?>
                                    <NotepadPlus>
                                       <AutoComplete language="...">
                                    

                                    then copy it to C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\autoCompletion\.
                                    (C:\Program Files (x86) is an example and will depend on your notepad++ installation path)

                                    if your LUSquirrel.xml file begins with:

                                    <NotepadPlus>
                                        <UserLang name="..." ext="" udlVersion="2.1">
                                            ...
                                    

                                    then copy it to %AppData%\Notepad++\userDefineLangs\.

                                    note: if your notepad++ is not a default installation, or a portable version, we would need your debug info from the notepad++ menu ? > información de reparación... > copy debug info into clipboard to tell you the corresponding paths.

                                    saludos.

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