F3 and Ctrl + F

kuzduk = kuzduk · Feb 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

Ctrl+F hotkey to “Find…”
F3 hotkey to “Searth Next”

It is a little need: execute “Find…” via F3 if Find window close

Alan Kilborn · Feb 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

@Григорий-Горкун

Not quite sure what you are getting at, but there is a Select and Find Next command that may help you. When invoked, it selects the “word” at the caret and then jumps to the next occurrence of it. If that doesn’t help, explain more about what you need.

PeterJones · Feb 7, 2019, 2:36 PM

@Григорий-Горкун,

That’s going to be one that many users would disagree with: for example, I want F3 to “search next” whether or not I’ve left the Find window open: sometimes, I’m on a small-monitor/single-monitor system and don’t want the bulk of the text covered with the Find window (even if it is mildly transparent). By doing Find, then closing the window, then hitting F3, I can cycle through the various matches.

If you still want that feature, this FAQ explains how to make a feature request. But be forewarned, it’s not likely to be implemented as you’ve currently described it.

If I’ve misinterpreted, please provide more information.

Meta Chuh · Feb 7, 2019, 3:08 PM

welcome to the notepad++ community, @Григорий-Горкун

if we understand everything correctly:

you want to use f3 for “find next”, but f3 only works, if the find window has been closed.
and you also want to keep your find window open and still use f3 to find next.

am i correct ?

if yes: there is no need to make a feature request, as it already works:

open the “find” window and search for any text.
now click on your notepad++ document tab or the notepad++ top bar (this brings your notepad++ window into front and keyboard input will be focused on it from now on).
from now on f3 is enabled, even if the find windows stays open, and you can use it to find the next match.

note: the reason shortcuts behave like this is because shortcuts only work on the active front window.

PeterJones · Feb 7, 2019, 3:14 PM

hmm, three different interpretations of what the OP wanted. Hopefully, one of these three pieces of advice will work. :-)

Taking bets on which one of us interpreted correctly? My money’s on @Meta-Chuh.

Meta Chuh · Feb 7, 2019, 4:16 PM

@PeterJones
let’s say variations, as they are not very different.
and i believe that the combination of all 3 will work the best 😃

my bet would be, that @Alan-Kilborn 's solution, without need of using the find window at all, is the simplest and most helpful, if @Григорий-Горкун wants to search for a single word only:

put the cursor on a word you want to find
press ctrl+f3 to automatically mark it and search for the next instance
then either keep pressing ctrl+f3 or use f3 to find every next instance
(both shortcuts will do the same in this case)

also your fact that the find window, regardless of where it currently is, usually covers exactly the part that is needed at the moment, is a good reason not to leave it open.

Alan Kilborn · Feb 7, 2019, 4:15 PM

@Meta-Chuh

Yea, FInd window absolutely sucks unless you have a super huge single monitor, or multiple any-sized monitors. In the latter case, for me, the FInd window gets moved to a different monitor than the maximized main Notepad++ window.

kuzduk = kuzduk · Feb 9, 2019, 8:54 AM

@PeterJones said:

I want F3 to “search next” whether or not I’ve left the Find window open: sometimes, I’m on a small-monitor/single-monitor system and don’t want the bulk of the text covered with the Find window (even if it is mildly transparent). By doing Find, then closing the window, then hitting F3, I can cycle through the various matches.

It full answer, thank you. It sad for me, because “many users would disagree”.

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My second question: why FindNext and FindPrevios hot keys are not work in Find window?

Alan Kilborn · Feb 9, 2019, 1:43 PM

@kuzduk-=-kuzduk said:

why FindNext and FindPrevios hot keys are not work in Find window?

This has been asked before. They don’t work because the keys configured via Shortcut Mapper only work in the editing tabs.

Meta Chuh · Feb 9, 2019, 4:50 PM

@kuzduk-kuzduk

My second question: why FindNext and FindPrevios hot keys are not work in Find window?

you just have to make your document tab active using this guide below, you don’t have to close the find window to use f3 (find next), or shift+f3 (find previous).

open the “find” window and search for any text.
now click on the notepad++ tab of your file
(this brings your opened file into front focus, and any keyboard shortcuts will work on it).
from now on the find next shortcut f3 and the find previous shortcut shift+f3 are also enabled, even if the find windows stays open.

kuzduk = kuzduk · Feb 10, 2019, 3:33 AM

i think this little thing what need be: FindNext and FindPrevios hot keys work in Find window

Alan Kilborn · Feb 10, 2019, 2:15 PM

@kuzduk-=-kuzduk

Are you reading the replies to this thread?

kuzduk = kuzduk · Feb 17, 2019, 8:15 AM

Yes i read:

They don’t work because the keys configured via Shortcut Mapper only work in the editing tabs.

Then it need to finish these two commands to work in the fond window!!!

This very long and uncomfortable(FindPrev and Find Next hot keys must work in find window):

open the “find” window and search for any text.

now click on the notepad++ tab of your file
(this brings your opened file into front focus, and any keyboard shortcuts will work on it).

from now on the find next shortcut f3 and the find previous shortcut shift+f3 are also enabled, even if the find windows stays open.

Meta Chuh · Feb 17, 2019, 11:58 AM

@kuzduk-kuzduk

if you want to have your find window in front, and use keys to switch to the next and/or previous finding, you can use [enter] to find the next and [shift]+[enter] to find the previous.

Alan Kilborn · Feb 17, 2019, 1:44 PM

This may be of interest:

https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/2138

As well as: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/15904/search-f3

Meta Chuh · Feb 17, 2019, 1:51 PM

@Alan-Kilborn

i like scott’s note:

@Scott-Sumner said: But perhaps you will not like that it is a different keystroke than your brain desires …

😉

kuzduk = kuzduk · Feb 18, 2019, 8:35 AM

This is the same as I ask, so i am not alone:

https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/2138
As well as: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/15904/search-f3

you can use [enter] to find the next and [shift]+[enter] to find the previous.

already better but why it is not same hot keys like for FindNext F3???))) it must be F3 and Shift+F3!!!

Meta Chuh · Feb 18, 2019, 11:10 AM

@kuzduk-kuzduk

already better but why it is not same hot keys like for FindNext F3???))) it must be F3 and Shift+F3!!!

i don’t really know why it is like that, as i am just a user at our user driven community,
but i quickly got used to the enter key combos at the find window.

i think @Scott-Sumner said it best, if we take it from a user perspective:

But perhaps you will not like that it is a different keystroke than your brain desires – Enter when you think F3.

if you can not get used to it at all, you can file a feature request, as suggested by @PeterJones above,
by reading and following the official guide >>> FAQ Desk: Feature Request or Bug Report <<<
as it does not really make much sense, if we talk about it for almost two weeks now, without being able to change anything.

Alan Kilborn · Feb 18, 2019, 1:31 PM

@kuzduk-=-kuzduk said:

why it is not same hot keys like for FindNext F3???))) it must be F3 and Shift+F3!!!

Why should it be F3 and Shift+F3? IMO those are dumb keystrokes and I have reassigned my Notepad++ to use IMO better ones. If, all of a sudden in Notepad++ these functions were remapped to something F3-ish in the Find window (instead of the Enter-based ones), I would be ticked!

Feature changes must consider ALL users and the different ways they might use existing Notepad++…before changes to functionality are made. (Not saying anyone is considering this thread’s topic for change). That is sometimes a daunting prospect, I know!