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    • Meta ChuhM
      Meta Chuh moderator @Mike Behar
      last edited by

      @Mike-Behar

      thank you for your very detailed report.
      this is very intriguing, as i can not reproduce it yet.

      i have just tested autosave 1.6.0. on notepad++ 7.6.6 64 bit and it seems to work, as well as showing up as installed at the plugins admin panel, as seen at the screenshot below.

      autosave x64 correctly saves a file if it is unsaved.
      (note: unnamed/new files are ignored at my test settings)

      i have set it to check for unsaved files every 1 minute.
      if i open a saved file and edit it without saving, it gets correctly auto-saved after 1 minute.

      Imgur

      have you been on notepad++ 64 bit before and just updated it, or is your current notepad++ a completely fresh install ?

      my debug info:

      Notepad++ v7.6.6   (64-bit)
      Build time : Apr  3 2019 - 23:52:32
      Path : C:\Users\User\Desktop\npp.7.6.6.bin.x64\notepad++.exe
      Admin mode : OFF
      Local Conf mode : ON
      OS : Windows 7 (64-bit)
      Plugins : AutoSave.dll mimeTools.dll NppConverter.dll 
      
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      • Mike BeharM
        Mike Behar
        last edited by

        @patrickdrd. Good suggestion. I have had no problems with running the 64 bit version given the plugins I use. But I agree it would be better to go to a 32 bit version rather than an older 64 bit version. Hopefully Meta Chuh can solve the mystery

        @ Meta Chuh. Hope the following helps.

        Image 1 shows that a temp file is being created but that does not change the red unsaved image. The temp file actually has the changes. I also noticed a “ripple” happens at the one minute mark. That ripple also happens when NP++ loses focus, but again the temp file is not converted nor does the unsaved image change.

        image #1

        Some additional information:
        Image #2

        Image #3

        Image #4

        Again, I hope this helps.

        Best,

        Mike

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        • Mike BeharM
          Mike Behar
          last edited by

          @Meta-Chuh Sorry, I forgot to give the debug info

          Notepad++ v7.6.6 (64-bit)
          Build time : Apr 3 2019 - 23:52:32
          Path : C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe
          Admin mode : OFF
          Local Conf mode : OFF
          OS : Windows 10 (64-bit)
          Plugins : AutoSave.dll HTMLTag.dll mimeTools.dll NppConverter.dll NPPJSONViewer.dll PluginManager.dll

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          • Meta ChuhM
            Meta Chuh moderator @Mike Behar
            last edited by Meta Chuh

            @Mike-Behar

            many thanks for your detailed information.

            please test the following, to verify, if a clean notepad++ would work with autosave on your system.

            • download the notepad++ 7.6.6. 64 bit portable version from >>> here <<<.
              (the portable version does not require any installation and runs completely independent and isolated from your installed version. all custom settings, as well as any stuff you might want to try at the portable version, will not modify your installed version)

            • extract npp.7.6.6.bin.x64.zip to e.g. your desktop.

            • important note: make sure to close all instances of notepad++ that might be running, before starting the portable version at the next step, to be sure you are using the portable version for this test.

            • open the extracted npp.7.6.6.bin.x64 folder and start this portable version by double-clicking on notepad++.exe inside this folder.
              (note: notepad++.exe will just be seen as notepad++, if you have enabled to hide all known file extensions at your explorer settings, which i think might not be the case as you have that strange .txt~ extension at NP++DebugInfo.txt)

            • install the autosave plugin on this portable version, like above, starting with opening plugins > open plugins folder... and try if it works on this clean, 64 bit notepad++ 7.6.6 portable version.

            if it works, we can either figure out and solve the differences between installed and portable notepad++ that cause this experience, or, as we then would know, that a complete fresh install would work on your system as expected, we could guide you through that, if you wish.

            thank you for your help and best regards.

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            • Mike BeharM
              Mike Behar
              last edited by

              @Meta-Chuh ,

              More thanks to you for helping (and creating/supporting AutoSave)

              **Good News (and bad news) **

              **Good news **is AutoSave will work with these
              correct settiings
              https://i.ibb.co/M9y2Hfb/NP-Correct-Settings-2019-04-17-211651.jpg
              Note: Previously I had the Save in same directory option selected. I think this is what was creating the temp file with the ~ ending. To make it work the overwrite option needs to be selected.

              ** Bad News **–Portable version of NP++ gives this error
              NP++ Portable error
              https://i.ibb.co/RQbyhM7/NP-Port-missing-gpup-019-04-17-212937.jpg

              In addition the Portable version does not create an Autosave Folder…
              This is true for the link you provided as well as for the link on Portable Apps
              https://i.ibb.co/ypNyxrZ/N-P0rtable-2019-04-17-204519.jpg

              Bottom line for me is – AutoSave works and I am again a happy camper.

              Thanks so much for your help.

              Mike

              PS
              How did you get the images to display in your answer? What is the markdown magic?

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              • Meta ChuhM
                Meta Chuh moderator @Mike Behar
                last edited by Meta Chuh

                @Mike-Behar

                **Good news **is AutoSave will work with these
                correct settiings

                congratulations 👍


                ** Bad News **–Portable version of NP++ gives this error
                NP++ Portable error

                plugin manager is not compatible with newer versions of notepad++.
                please don’t install it.


                In addition the Portable version does not create an Autosave Folder…
                This is true for the link you provided as well as for the link on Portable Apps

                that’s why i said: install the autosave plugin on this portable version, like above, starting with opening plugins > open plugins folder... and try if it works on this clean, 64 bit notepad++ 7.6.6 portable version. above.
                you had to create the Autosave folder before, so it is still the same for the portable version. (the portable version is completely isolated and does not assimilate your installed version’s settings or folder structure)


                Bottom line for me is – AutoSave works and I am again a happy camper.
                Thanks so much for your help.

                that’s the only important thing.
                you are very welcome.


                PS
                How did you get the images to display in your answer? What is the markdown magic?

                the magic is to put your image url in between ![]( and ).
                example:
                ![](https://i.ibb.co/M9y2Hfb/NP-Correct-Settings-2019-04-17-211651.jpg)

                will produce this:

                best regards

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                • PeterJonesP
                  PeterJones
                  last edited by PeterJones

                  @Mike-Behar said:

                  This is true … for the link on Portable Apps

                  Please don’t. Just don’t. Portable Apps rebundles things, and has a history of messing up their bundle so Notepad++ doesn’t work properly.

                  If you want a portable non-installed Notepad++, just use the “zip” or “7z” link from the official website, rather than going to a rebundler/distributor like Portable Apps.

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                  • Alan KilbornA
                    Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
                    last edited by

                    @PeterJones said:

                    Please don’t. Just don’t.

                    I can’t upvote this enough.

                    Always get N++ from here whether you want installable or portable: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/download

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                    • PeterJonesP
                      PeterJones
                      last edited by

                      Last month, I opened a ticket to get the download page to add “portable”, and I just posted a comment to “bump” the issue. @Meta-Chuh has kindly upvoted it. Hopefully, we can get the official download pages to emphasize that there is a portable version officially available.

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                      • Mike BeharM
                        Mike Behar @Meta Chuh
                        last edited by

                        @Meta-Chuh
                        Just to be clear… I did use the original link you provided to download NP++. It threw this error
                        (And thanks for the markdown tip)

                        I added the missing “gpup.exe” and created the folder as before. It was then I discovered the “correct” settings to make AutoSave work. After that – for fun – I tried the portable apps version – and hit the same error message

                        So here is what is not clear to me.

                        1. Am I the only one seeing that error message or is something broken on BOTH sites where we can get a portable version of NP++ ?

                        2. Why does checking “save autorecover in the same directory” create a file extension that end with ~ Should it not create a file with the same name and an extension of bak or something similar?

                        Thanks

                        @PeterJones and @Alan Kilborn
                        I appreciate the advice – thanks. Hope the main site will clear show a portable version is available…

                        Best to All,

                        Mike

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