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    • cmeriauxC
      cmeriaux
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      @asvc Thanks for the futur request.
      The regexp issue may be related to the one already opened on github tracker

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      • asvcA
        asvc @cmeriaux
        last edited by

        @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

        The regexp issue may be related to the one already opened on github tracker

        Which one? I might have missed the link.

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        • favdishF
          favdish @cmeriaux
          last edited by favdish

          @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

          here is a survey about the “incremental search” usefulness.
          Do you use it ?
          Yes.

          Do you need regular expression support ?
          In general, yes of course. I would not even consider using a text editor w/o regex support. However, specifically in incremental search, no.

          Do you need an incremental mode in the find panel ?
          Do you need an incremental mode in the replace panel ?
          Do you need an incremental mode in the mark panel ?
          No.

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          • cmeriauxC
            cmeriaux @asvc
            last edited by

            @asvc
            https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/3640
            https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/8269

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            • Michael VincentM
              Michael Vincent
              last edited by

              Not to beat a dead horse, but this is related to incremental search.

              When I use incremental search and tick both “Highlight all” and “Match case”, do my search then close Notepad++. Upon re-open, they are not ticked anymore. Seems incremental search options are not saved in config.xml the way regular Find panel options are.

              I think that would be nice improvement to incremental search that wouldn’t ruffle too many feathers?

              Cheers.

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              • Alan KilbornA
                Alan Kilborn @Michael Vincent
                last edited by Alan Kilborn

                @Michael-Vincent

                If you’re saying that to @cmeriaux , well, then I think he already had that idea: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/7753
                :-)
                But…it appeared from that that at least part of the problem was fixed already??

                Someone else had a somewhat-related idea in just the last 24 hours: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/8375

                Both are good ideas, I think.

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                • Michael VincentM
                  Michael Vincent @Alan Kilborn
                  last edited by

                  @Alan-Kilborn

                  I was saying it to anyone that would listen - I can always count on you :-)

                  I think my question / idea is a bit different. @cmeriaux 7753 does appear fixed, opening the bar, selecting options, closing bar, reopening bar - my selections are still there. I proposing to close the Notepad++ application altogether.

                  Then re-launch Notepad++ application (maybe this is where 8375 fits in - remember the “show” status of incremental search) - either way, my selected options are forgotten.

                  Contrast that to opening the Find dialogue between Notepad++ application relaunches, things like “Match whole word”, “Match case”, “Search mode” - they are all remembered - saved in config.xml.

                  I was wondering if the two check options in Incremental Search (and maybe the visible status of the bar itself) can be GUI options saved in config.xml?

                  I guess a feature request if I really want it.

                  Cheers.

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                  • cmeriauxC
                    cmeriaux
                    last edited by

                    @Michael-Vincent I thinks add incremental parameters to the global config file is a good idea.
                    I’ve already proposed this feature on the conversation of this feature https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/8248#issuecomment-626377716 but author reacted with a thumb down. So I doubt it would be accepted.
                    But you can write a new issue on github, the author may change it’s opinion… we never knows

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                    • asvcA
                      asvc
                      last edited by

                      Has there been any traction on incremental search with regexp support?

                      I went through the NPP’s GitHub page and the Issue #8248 was last updated a month ago.

                      That being said, it reads like @sasumner is now slightly less critical of the idea :)

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                      • EkopalypseE
                        Ekopalypse @asvc
                        last edited by

                        @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                        Has there been any traction on incremental search with regexp support?

                        Not that I’m aware.

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                        • cmeriauxC
                          cmeriaux
                          last edited by

                          @asvc I’m affraid that the war has been lost, the feature won’t be implemented.
                          I’m sorry

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                          • asvcA
                            asvc @Ekopalypse
                            last edited by

                            That feeling when you want to use a text editor, but it actively refuses to be used… I will try to poke @sasumner at GitHub one last time.

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                            • asvcA
                              asvc
                              last edited by

                              When one door closes, another opens. Let’s try with the fork: https://github.com/dail8859/NotepadNext/issues/4

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                              • Alan KilbornA
                                Alan Kilborn @asvc
                                last edited by

                                @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                the fork

                                Why do you think NotepadNext is a fork of Notepad++?

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                                • guy038G
                                  guy038
                                  last edited by guy038

                                  Hello, @don-ho, @cmeriaux, @alan-kilborn, @asvc, @ekopalypse, @michael-vincent, @astrosofista, @mapje71, @terry-r and All,

                                  In order to promote a bit the incremental search, with regular expressions I just had an idea :

                                  Why don’t we propose to put a new setting in the config.xml file to allow this new incremental search mode ? So, by default, for non-experienced users, the incremental search would remain a classical search ;-))

                                  I mean, in the same way that @don-ho, preserved the backward regex search with this new regexBackward4PowerUser attribute in the FindHistory tag, since N++ 7.8.7 Release 4. See my request to @don-ho, one month ago, for such a setting, in the last part of this post :

                                  https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/54520

                                  Just hope you won’t find this idea too ridiculous !

                                  Best Regards

                                  guy038

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                                  • cmeriauxC
                                    cmeriaux @Alan Kilborn
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice fork. Qt is nicer than mfc. Too bad there isn’t a python API for plug-in because I don’t like Lua.

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                                    • cmeriauxC
                                      cmeriaux @guy038
                                      last edited by

                                      @guy038 your idea is a good compromise but I think for a feature like this, it should be mainstream wheter be hidden through a config parameter

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                                      • asvcA
                                        asvc @cmeriaux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Alan-Kilborn said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                        Why do you think NotepadNext is a fork of Notepad++?

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                                        @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                        @guy038 your idea is a good compromise but I think for a feature like this, it should be mainstream wheter be hidden through a config parameter

                                        That’s a start! It can be used to gently introduce the functionality without creating any sort of discomfort for long-term users. Then, based on feedback, setting can be exposed in GUI.

                                        Now… How to deliver this message to @donho without annoying him with repetitive requests? :)

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                                        • Alan KilbornA
                                          Alan Kilborn @asvc
                                          last edited by

                                          @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                          How to deliver this message to @donho without annoying him with repetitive requests?

                                          Good luck figuring that one out. :-)

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                                          • cmeriauxC
                                            cmeriaux @asvc
                                            last edited by

                                            @asvc you can write him an email, email address is available on website

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