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    • PeterJonesP
      PeterJones @Grenville Tryon 0
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      @Grenville-Tryon-0 ,

      I don’t know what’s going wrong for you. Something is different about your system than about mine, because Alt+Shift+Arrows (ie, keyboard control for column-mode editing) work 100% of the time for me, whether I am on an old Notepad++ or the newest, whether in my normal executable with all my plugins or whether I’m in a fresh unzip. You keep mentioning this alt-shft-l, which is not a keystroke anywhere in the Shortcut Mapper, so I don’t know what you think that combo is doing

      It may have something to do with the new Scintilla, but that’s not enough to explain it, because it works for me.

      Someone else will have to step in, because I have no more ideas for what you can try.

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      • Grenville Tryon 0G
        Grenville Tryon 0
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        I will downgrade my NP to 7.9.3 for a while. It does the job. BTW, (the alt-shift-l is really alt-shift-Arrows, as you said).
        My bet is scintilla + numeric laptop keyboard.

        If it is correct, theres no way but wait.
        Thanks!

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        • Michael VincentM
          Michael Vincent @Grenville Tryon 0
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          @Grenville-Tryon-0
          @PeterJones

          Could this be the issue?

          Laptop without “arrow keys” and maybe the NumLock / numeric pad number keys (8, 4, 6, 2) with arrows accessed by a function key …

          In short, keyboard column select mode only works with Alt+Shift+DEDICATED arrow keys, not the number pad arrow keys with NumLock disabled.

          Hope this helps and doesn’t add more confusion.

          Cheers.

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          • Grenville Tryon 0G
            Grenville Tryon 0 @Michael Vincent
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            @Michael-Vincent Thanks for your quote. Unfortunately, is not the case. (Also, It doesnt explain why the 7.9.3 works and 7.9.4+ not.)

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            • Michael VincentM
              Michael Vincent @Grenville Tryon 0
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              @Grenville-Tryon-0 said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

              Also, It doesnt explain why the 7.9.3 works and 7.9.4+ not.

              Actually it does since the Scintilla version was updated and the Scintilla behavior in pre-4.4.6 was based on 4.1.2 and in 4.3.1, Scintilla changed the way this was handled:

              ====
              From: https://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaHistory.html

              Release 4.3.1

              • Released 4 March 2020.
              • Add default argument for StyleContext::GetRelative. Feature #1336.
              • Fix drag and drop between different encodings on Win32 by always providing CF_UNICODETEXT only. Bug #2151.
              • Automatically scroll while dragging text. Feature #497.
              • On Win32, the numeric keypad with Alt pressed can be used to enter characters by number. This can produce unexpected results in non-numlock mode when function keys are assigned. Potentially problematic keys like Alt+KeypadUp are now ignored. Bug #2152.
              • Crash fixed with Direct2D on Win32 when updating driver. Bug #2138.
              • For SciTE on Win32, fix crashes when Lua script closes application. Bug #2155.

              ====

              Cheers.

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              • Grenville Tryon 0G
                Grenville Tryon 0 @Michael Vincent
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                @Michael-Vincent said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                On Win32, the numeric keypad with Alt pressed can be used to enter characters by number. This can produce unexpected results in non-numlock mode when function keys are assigned. Potentially problematic keys like Alt+KeypadUp are now ignored. Bug #2152.

                That is the answer !
                I try the shift-alt-cursor non numeric keypad -> work
                I try the shift-alt-cursor numeric keypad -> dont work

                Looks like from now on I have to change my way to use the cursors in notepad plus.
                Just curious: So it may happen also in an standard desktop computer numeric keypad? (Dont have one to test)

                Thank you!

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                • Michael VincentM
                  Michael Vincent @Grenville Tryon 0
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                  @Grenville-Tryon-0 said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                  Just curious: So it may happen also in an standard desktop computer numeric keypad?

                  Yes definitely. I’ve tested such with my external keyboard and reported on the Notepad++ issue I first referenced. It is definitely a Scintilla issue based on the “bug fix” they reference in 4.3.1.

                  Cheers.

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                  • TroshinDVT
                    TroshinDV
                    last edited by

                    А так сделать можно будет?
                    Screenshot_161.png

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                    • Alan KilbornA
                      Alan Kilborn @Michael Vincent
                      last edited by

                      @Michael-Vincent said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                      It is definitely a Scintilla issue

                      It is an “issue” but didn’t they decide to “fix” it by just not allowing column selecting via using the shared arrows on the numeric keypad? That isn’t really a “fix” but as I have never used those keys to make a column block, it doesn’t bother me.

                      @Grenville-Tryon-0 If you’d have just answered my question when I first asked it, it would have saved a lot of pointless back-and-forth here!

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                      • Alan KilbornA
                        Alan Kilborn @TroshinDV
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                        @TroshinDV said:

                        Will it be possible to do this?

                        This thread is for suspected problems specifically with the 7.9.4 release.

                        Please ask your question (whatever that is) by creating a new thread.

                        Also, if you’re going to re-ask it, do so in a manner that clearly conveys what you mean. Since this is an English-speaking forum (historically), ask in English and preferably post screenshots in the English translation of Notepad++ – if you want the best help to be provided.

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                        • Grenville Tryon 0G
                          Grenville Tryon 0 @Alan Kilborn
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                          @Alan-Kilborn said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                          @Michael-Vincent said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                          It is definitely a Scintilla issue

                          It is an “issue” but didn’t they decide to “fix” it by just not allowing column selecting via using the shared arrows on the numeric keypad? That isn’t really a “fix” but as I have never used those keys to make a column block, it doesn’t bother me.

                          @Grenville-Tryon-0 If you’d have just answered my question when I first asked it, it would have saved a lot of pointless back-and-forth here!

                          You are right: I though i answer all the questions but missed that one. Appreciate the extra effort.

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                          • Matthew Moore 0M
                            Matthew Moore 0 @PeterJones
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                            @PeterJones said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                            I would expect those of you working in IT forensics to know that you could just rename the file to .txt (or no extension) to load the contents in Notepad++

                            And that is what we did as a work-around. It was more of an unpleasant surprise than anything else when it first occurred, whereas previously the binary/text data was available to parse.

                            I wouldn’t mind if there was an option to disable that, but I would lobby that it should follow .lnk files by default, and only edit the link contents if you change the option (maybe even making it a “hidden option”), because I would think the vast majority of users would expect Windows links to work like links, like they do in other Windows applications – and the principal of least-surprise is important for most users.

                            I would be fine with that as an option.

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                            • Alan KilbornA
                              Alan Kilborn @Matthew Moore 0
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                              @Matthew-Moore-0

                              This open issue might be of interest to you.

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                              • CodanRaigen21C
                                CodanRaigen21
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                                How do I turn off the auto-indent for braces in JSON, is there an option somewhere?

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                                • Michael VincentM
                                  Michael Vincent @CodanRaigen21
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                                  @CodanRaigen21 said in Notepad++ v7.9.4 released:

                                  for braces in JSON

                                  Not for JSON specifically, it’s all or nothing:

                                  Settings => Preferences => Auto-Completion => Auto-indent

                                  Cheers.

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