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    Notepad++ has a Reload false alarm / bug? "This file has been modified by another program. Do you want to reload it"? even when it hadn't been recently modified at all?!

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    • Alan KilbornA
      Alan Kilborn
      last edited by

      Yep, I agree with @artie-finkelstein . Some time ago I posted about this sort of thing with files on a Microsoft “OneDrive”. I never really came up with a satisfactory solution so I just don’t edit files on this drive with Notepad++ (if I can avoid doing it).

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      • Leo EiblerL
        Leo Eibler
        last edited by Leo Eibler

        Hi,
        I want to upvote this thread because I installed new version of npp today and since this new update (version 8.1.9, 64-bit) I got “file has changed” notification.

        The files are stored on a windows network drive and there was no problem with this mechanism this in the previous versions.
        It is reproduceable by changing a file, save the file, switch to another program (e.g. explorer) switch back to npp and the message appears.

        So it seems there was a change in detecting the modification of a file (maybe time resolution to recognize a modified file or something else was changed)?

        thank you!
        Leo

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        • donhoD
          donho @Bo Chen
          last edited by

          @bo-chen
          What’s your Notepad++ version?

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          • donhoD
            donho @Leo Eibler
            last edited by

            @leo-eibler

            It is reproduceable by changing a file, save the file, switch to another program (e.g. explorer) switch back to npp and the message appears.

            Is it reproducible 100% for you?
            What’s the version before you updated your Notepad++ to v8.1.9?
            I have tried with files on oneDrive, but cannot reproduce it. Any idea to build a windows network drive for reproducing this issue?

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            • Dennis LazoD
              Dennis Lazo @Leo Eibler
              last edited by

              @leo-eibler i am upvoting this. my files are saved on a NAS and am experiencing this as well.

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              • donhoD
                donho @Dennis Lazo
                last edited by donho

                @dennis-lazo

                @leo-eibler i am upvoting this. my files are saved on a NAS and am experiencing this as well.

                It’s good for upvoting.
                It’s better to let us know your Notepad++ version, so we can identify better the problem and fix this bug.

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                • donhoD
                  donho @donho
                  last edited by

                  @Bo-Chen @Dennis-Lazo @Leo-Eibler

                  I have no network drive/NAS/MEGA so I can’t reproduce this issue.
                  However, I find some incoherent code of timestamp detection and did a blend fix:
                  http://download.notepad-plus-plus.org/repository/MISC/

                  Could you guys test the fixed binary (download above) and confirm me if it work (and the message you see) please?

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                  • Leo EiblerL
                    Leo Eibler @donho
                    last edited by

                    @donho Thank you very much for this fast fix. I installed your fixed version now and will see if it solves the problem.

                    I tried to find out the version I used before but I was not able to find it - if you have any idea how to find out the previous used version I will tell you ;-)

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                    • Leo EiblerL
                      Leo Eibler @donho
                      last edited by Leo Eibler

                      @donho happened again with new Version.
                      Dialog message: “File on disk timestamp is earlier than current buffer timestamp: #2”
                      And if I click on OK, a second dialog box with same message appears.
                      If I switch to another program and switch back to npp a 3rd dialog box appears with same message.
                      Dialog boxes can not be closed - after clicking on OK it appears again and again.

                      So I have to kill the process.

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                      • donhoD
                        donho @Leo Eibler
                        last edited by

                        @leo-eibler
                        Could you try the new fix please?
                        It should be fine now:
                        http://download.notepad-plus-plus.org/repository/MISC/NewFix/

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                        • Leo EiblerL
                          Leo Eibler @donho
                          last edited by

                          @donho Is it possible that you don’t fixed the x64 version? because it has older date (2021-11-12 04:02 2.3M) and other filename (missing the word “new”)

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                          • donhoD
                            donho @Leo Eibler
                            last edited by donho

                            @leo-eibler

                            @donho Is it possible that you don’t fixed the x64 version? because it has older date (2021-11-12 04:02 2.3M) and other filename (missing the word “new”)

                            You are right. Fixed now.

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                            • Leo EiblerL
                              Leo Eibler @donho
                              last edited by

                              @donho thank you very much. I will test it.

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                              • Leo EiblerL
                                Leo Eibler @donho
                                last edited by Leo Eibler

                                @donho it looks very good … I tested it now (for the last 2 hours) and no “file has been modified” dialog any more ;-)

                                I also tested to modify the file really outside the editor and this works also - the modified dialog appears as expected.

                                I keep on testing next week but I think you solved the bug ;-)
                                Thank you very very much for your really fast help!

                                BR

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                                • David JohnstoneD
                                  David Johnstone @donho
                                  last edited by

                                  @donho Out of curiosity, I looked at the code in FileInterface.cpp
                                  In line 25, we have:

                                  attrib = FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL | FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS;

                                  The MSDN documentation for CreateFile says about FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL:

                                  “This attribute is valid only if used alone.”

                                  In reality, ORing with other attributes may make no real difference. But after coding for some 50 years, I believe being pedantic = good plan :-)

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                                  • David JohnstoneD
                                    David Johnstone @David Johnstone
                                    last edited by

                                    @david-johnstone should say Line 125

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                                    • donhoD
                                      donho @David Johnstone
                                      last edited by

                                      @david-johnstone

                                      The MSDN documentation for CreateFile says about FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL:
                                      “This attribute is valid only if used alone.”
                                      In reality, ORing with other attributes may make no real difference. But after coding for some 50 years, I believe being pedantic = good plan :-)

                                      You’ve got a point here.

                                      OTOH, the another parameter FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS, MS Doc says:

                                      FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS
                                      0x01000000
                                      
                                      
                                      	Access will occur according to POSIX rules. This includes allowing multiple files with names, differing only in case, for file systems that support that naming.
                                      

                                      We do not need this ability, so I think it can be removed. What do you think @pnedev ?

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                                      • donhoD
                                        donho @donho
                                        last edited by

                                        @David-Johnstone

                                        The MSDN documentation for CreateFile says about FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL:
                                        “This attribute is valid only if used alone.”

                                        The thing is, even FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS is removed:

                                        void Win32_IO_File::fillCreateParams(DWORD &access, DWORD &share, DWORD &disp, DWORD &attrib)
                                        {
                                        	access	= GENERIC_READ;
                                        	share = FILE_SHARE_READ;
                                        	attrib	= FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL; // Distinguish between upper/lower case in name
                                        
                                        	if (_hMode == Mode::READ)
                                        	{
                                        		disp	=	OPEN_EXISTING; // Open only if file exists and is not locked by other process
                                        
                                        		attrib	|=	FILE_FLAG_SEQUENTIAL_SCAN; // Optimize caching for sequential read
                                        	}
                                        	else
                                        	{
                                        		disp	=	OPEN_ALWAYS; // Open existing file for writing without destroying it or create new
                                        
                                        		access	|=	GENERIC_WRITE;
                                        		attrib	|=	FILE_FLAG_WRITE_THROUGH; // Write cached data directly to disk (no lazy writer)
                                        	}
                                        }
                                        

                                        We add always FILE_FLAG_WRITE_THROUGH (Mode::READ is not used in Notepad++ code).

                                        @pnedev
                                        What’s your thought?

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                                        • pnedevP
                                          pnedev @donho
                                          last edited by pnedev

                                          @donho ,

                                          The CreateFile’s parameter about file attributes is combined with other flags.
                                          The MSDN is saying that FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL cannot be combined with other ATTRIBUTE values (because those will overwrite FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL) but flags are separate thing and can surely be combined with attributes. Those are basically two separate types of values combined in one variable.

                                          Quote from MSDN from https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/fileapi/nf-fileapi-createfilew :

                                          [in] dwFlagsAndAttributes

                                          The file or device attributes and flags, FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL being the most common default value for files.

                                          This parameter can include any combination of the available file attributes (FILE_ATTRIBUTE_*). All other file attributes override FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL.

                                          This parameter can also contain combinations of flags (FILE_FLAG_) for control of file or device caching behavior, access modes, and other special-purpose flags. These combine with any FILE_ATTRIBUTE_ values."

                                          So we can safely use FILE_FLAG_SEQUENTIAL_SCAN, FILE_FLAG_WRITE_THROUGH and FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS and any other FILE_FLAG_* value together with FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL.

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                                          • donhoD
                                            donho @pnedev
                                            last edited by donho

                                            @pnedev

                                            Yes, that’s what I understood after reading agin MS Doc concerning CreateFile function.
                                            However, the parameter FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS to me is not useful for Notepad++. But there is maybe a reason when you coded it - I would like to know it before removing it (or not).

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