Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release

donho

@imspecial said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

Are you Mega Man?

Without really playing this game, I suppose it’s rather a compliment…
No, I’m not. But when a software is popular, every its move is Mega Man’s move I think ;)

ImSpecial

@donho
Bug maybe, this is how my notepad opens normally;
https://i.imgur.com/3KqOaYp.png
https://i.imgur.com/aZMOttT.png

When I go to toggle Dark mode on/off, my old style is not remembered, it’s all white, and old icons don’t change back.
https://i.imgur.com/YXdPFxv.png
https://i.imgur.com/4Kpir6U.png

I don’t use dark mode, but I have toggled it before just to check it out, and I don’t remember this behavior from previous versions. It should revert back to my old setup.

(and sorry for all the pictures, I really should learn to make gifs. :/)

ImSpecial

Sorry yet again, but why don’t I get the tab icon (blue/red disk) in dark mode for the alternate icons?

Before/after shots - not dark mode;
https://i.imgur.com/zWuyrzv.png
https://i.imgur.com/7XU9cY1.png

Before/after shots - in dark mode;
https://i.imgur.com/HGbb6n6.png
https://i.imgur.com/6M0rXOE.png

https://i.imgur.com/FdFGpTE.png
https://i.imgur.com/5xmJl0f.png

I noticed in the fix for #6, the gif for it on Github, it shows the disk icons, one of the reasons I don’t use dark mode is I like those.

And since I’m taking pics, this window text is really blurry in dark mode.
https://i.imgur.com/7UXMulX.png
https://i.imgur.com/NtlP5OV.png
https://i.imgur.com/HIV9MGw.png

donho

@imspecial said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

Bug maybe, this is how my notepad opens normally;
When I go to toggle Dark mode on/off, my old style is not remembered, it’s all white, and old icons don’t change back.

It’s intentional behaviour for showing users that the dark mode style icons are also available in light mode. Users can always switch them back manually.

Sorry yet again, but why don’t I get the tab icon (blue/red disk) in dark mode for the alternate icons?

The (original) reason is, dark mode and light mode have their own set tab icons by design, that’s not interchangeable; whereas alternative icons are optional, so they are accessible for both modes.

this window text is really blurry in dark mode.

I guess you meant: this window text is less blurry in dark mode.

Yes, it’s a visual glitch in dark mode that we don’t have simple solution to improve it.

ImSpecial

@donho

Okay thanks for clarifying, again I wasn’t sure if these were bugs or normal behavior as I was only trying/testing out dark mode for a bit and I found the behavior a bit strange.

So to clarify a bit, are you saying there is no way to get the blue/red disk icons in dark mode, like shown in this picture?

https://i.imgur.com/uWaXoAy.png

I couldn’t find a way, and really like those icons, I find the blue/red is really easy for me to distinguish the two apart, unlike the other icons, also a decade of using them, hard to give up… :)

Maybe you could implement a way to have those disk icons as an alternate alternate icons option. :)

Anyways, thanks for the replies on this.

Alan Kilborn

@imspecial said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

I couldn’t find a way, and really like those icons

There is no way to have the blue/red icons in dark mode.

One of the large downsides to the blue/red icons is the grey icon for a read-only file. This icon, when a file is inactive, is not really distinguishable from a blue icon.

@imspecial said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

I find the blue/red is really easy for me to distinguish

Try the existing “alternate icons”, which are distinguished well from each other, plus don’t have the downside mentioned above for a read-only file.

@imspecial said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

also a decade of using them, hard to give up

Try to adapt to something new and better; it is not that hard to do. Plus, nobody even remembers what the red/blue icons are (a floppy disk). Move into the year 2021 where no one knows what this is.

A green checkmark, a pencil icon, and a lock icon are much more intuitive.

ImSpecial

@alan-kilborn

Thanks for all the answer, but also keep your “move into the 2021 opinion” to yourself please.

You are the same type of people I always see surrounding programs like 7-zip… “fix the GUI so that it does not look like it was made for Windows 95!!!”.

[rant]
Current UI works just fine. Some people like simple and effective interfaces like this. Move into 2021? Maybe I should look into a replacement for notepad++ then, got any recommendations for one with a more “modern” and “updated/change for the sake of change” interface? preferably one that’s bloated because it would most likely use some crappy new framework made by Microsoft or Google…
[/rant]

Alan Kilborn

@imspecial

Rant all you want, but the removal of the red/blue/grey diskette icons for dark mode is considered a step forward for the software. Asking for them back is a step backward, and probably won’t be (and shouldn’t be) entertained by the Notepad++ author.

@imspecial said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

Current UI works just fine

I guess you didn’t bother to read the part I wrote about how it doesn’t work for the diskette icons.

ImSpecial

@alan-kilborn

Guess you didn’t read or see this then:
https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/10775

Because I’m seeing those diskette icons, and it looks and behaves just fine, even if that is a “bug” that got fixed.

I’m also done on this matter, keep this topic on topic about the v8.1.9.2 release.

ludamo 0

@imspecial Just a quick reply. Check out Resource Hacker if you want to change the icons in the notepad++.exe to ones that you like.

ImSpecial

@ludamo-0

Thanks for the tip, but I believe once you do something like that you ruin the digital signature of notepad++, then AV’s like to whine and over zealously scan it.

donho

@imspecial
Using the disk icons in dark mode as option is a reasonable feature request, though it’s not been done due to the historic reason.
Why don’t you create a feature request for that on the GitHub issue tracker?
I don’t promise it will be accepted at the end, but it worth to see if users need such option.

Alan Kilborn

@donho said in Notepad++ v8.1.9.2 Release:

Using the disk icons in dark mode as option is a reasonable feature request

Ugh. Notepad++ moves out of the dark ages, then (possibly) moves back into it. Diskette icons should just be retired, at least in new modes like dark mode.

If you’re going to keep the diskette icons, at least go to the effort and fix the LONGSTANDING bug I mentioned above where you can’t tell an inactive icon is readonly.