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    asvc
    last edited by May 11, 2020, 2:41 PM

    @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

    Could you do a sexy screencast without ‘.’ (\w \s \d + … )?

    Sure can. It’s past midnight here, added to the TODO list for tomorrow.

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      asvc
      last edited by May 12, 2020, 12:07 PM

      Just wanted to update @cmeriaux that it is still in the TODO list and I will post an update as soon as it is ready. Should be done by EOD Sunday.

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        cmeriaux
        last edited by May 13, 2020, 7:44 PM

        @asvc once you’ve done a nice screencast, I suggest you to create a feature request on github. The author wants a feature request to ve created by other user than me, to be convinced that the feature is really necessary.

        Do you have an Github account ? https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/new/choose
        Thanks

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          cmeriaux
          last edited by May 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

          ps: for the record there was a big debate with the author on this page https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/8247 . It seems to be closed . Sorry guys I’m tired trying to convince mr Ho.

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            Ekopalypse @cmeriaux
            last edited by May 13, 2020, 10:02 PM

            @cmeriaux

            I’m tired trying to convince mr Ho.

            Thx for trying and spending the time creating the code, issue and PR.
            It’s a pity that it isn’t considered to be a useful enhancement.

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              Alan Kilborn
              last edited by May 14, 2020, 1:12 PM

              @Alan-Kilborn said:

              Also, one presumes that dot matches newline would never be enabled for this?
              As an example of why this would be bad:
              Type .* into the incremental search box and you are instantly sitting with your caret at end of file, with no great way to get back to where you started so you can do a better incremental search.
              Maybe the answer is, don’t type .*, but…

              I tried this in Visual Studio 2019.
              I noticed that .* will only match data out to the end of the current line.
              Thus it doesn’t appear to have a . matches newline capability.
              Also, I couldn’t get any regex string to cause a “jump” of the viewport when a match starts on the current viewport but logically extends to higher document positions.
              My original concern stems from N++'s search behavior of wanting to put the caret end of a selection at the higher document position and then making sure the caret is shown to the user.
              Hopefully this is understandable.
              Anyway, I like the way VS19 works in this regard, and if it ever gets accepted for N++, I hope it would work similarly.
              Still not a huge fan myself of regexing this, but if it is the “will of the people” I’d go along. :-)

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                Alan Kilborn @Alan Kilborn
                last edited by May 14, 2020, 1:24 PM

                @Alan-Kilborn said:

                Thus it doesn’t appear to have a . matches newline capability.

                Hmmm, I may have to retract that. Or at least qualify it, because the way it works I don’t think one can tell exactly what it is matching. It could be matching each line individually, or have one match. I think the visual highlighting would be the same either way. (Again, I’m talking about VS2019 behavior, not N++).

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                  Alan Kilborn
                  last edited by May 14, 2020, 2:06 PM

                  A POSTING related to the current thread that somehow hasn’t been mentioned to this point.

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                    astrosofista @Alan Kilborn
                    last edited by May 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

                    @Alan-Kilborn

                    I seem to have missed those messages, I’m answering right now. Sorry about that.

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                      asvc
                      last edited by asvc May 18, 2020, 2:53 AM May 18, 2020, 2:50 AM

                      I have created feature request at GitHub — https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/8278

                      @cmeriaux , I have experienced a few bugs, not sure if these are unique to my configuration yet:

                      1. Using “Highlight All” makes N++ scroll the viewer despite that valid match is already present on the screen:

                        animation

                      2. Not all matches are highlighted. Testing on the following snippet:

                        {
                        	"guid": "{xx-xx-xx-xx}",
                        	"name": "Command Prompt",
                        	"commandline": "cmd.exe",
                        	"icon": "ms-appx:///ProfileIcons/{xx-xx-xx-xx}.png",
                        	// "colorScheme": "Campbell",
                        	"antialiasingMode": "cleartype",
                        	"closeOnExit": "graceful",
                        	"cursorShape": "bar",
                        	"fontFace": "Consolas",
                        	"fontSize": 10,
                        	"hidden": false,
                        	"historySize": 9001,
                        	"padding": "8, 8, 8, 8",
                        	"snapOnInput": true,
                        	"startingDirectory": "%USERPROFILE%",
                        	"useAcrylic": false
                        }
                        

                        Only the first one is highlighted and only two matches are highlighted after pressing “Enter”:
                        npp_regexp.png

                      Will continue using this build and report back if more bugs are found.

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                        cmeriaux
                        last edited by May 18, 2020, 5:55 AM

                        @asvc Thanks for the futur request.
                        The regexp issue may be related to the one already opened on github tracker

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                          asvc @cmeriaux
                          last edited by May 18, 2020, 10:03 AM

                          @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                          The regexp issue may be related to the one already opened on github tracker

                          Which one? I might have missed the link.

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                            favdish @cmeriaux
                            last edited by favdish May 18, 2020, 10:24 AM May 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

                            @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                            here is a survey about the “incremental search” usefulness.
                            Do you use it ?
                            Yes.

                            Do you need regular expression support ?
                            In general, yes of course. I would not even consider using a text editor w/o regex support. However, specifically in incremental search, no.

                            Do you need an incremental mode in the find panel ?
                            Do you need an incremental mode in the replace panel ?
                            Do you need an incremental mode in the mark panel ?
                            No.

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                              cmeriaux @asvc
                              last edited by May 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

                              @asvc
                              https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/3640
                              https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/8269

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                                Michael Vincent
                                last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 7:25 PM

                                Not to beat a dead horse, but this is related to incremental search.

                                When I use incremental search and tick both “Highlight all” and “Match case”, do my search then close Notepad++. Upon re-open, they are not ticked anymore. Seems incremental search options are not saved in config.xml the way regular Find panel options are.

                                I think that would be nice improvement to incremental search that wouldn’t ruffle too many feathers?

                                Cheers.

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                                  Alan Kilborn @Michael Vincent
                                  last edited by Alan Kilborn Jun 5, 2020, 7:32 PM Jun 5, 2020, 7:30 PM

                                  @Michael-Vincent

                                  If you’re saying that to @cmeriaux , well, then I think he already had that idea: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/7753
                                  :-)
                                  But…it appeared from that that at least part of the problem was fixed already??

                                  Someone else had a somewhat-related idea in just the last 24 hours: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/8375

                                  Both are good ideas, I think.

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                                  • Michael VincentM
                                    Michael Vincent @Alan Kilborn
                                    last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 7:39 PM

                                    @Alan-Kilborn

                                    I was saying it to anyone that would listen - I can always count on you :-)

                                    I think my question / idea is a bit different. @cmeriaux 7753 does appear fixed, opening the bar, selecting options, closing bar, reopening bar - my selections are still there. I proposing to close the Notepad++ application altogether.

                                    Then re-launch Notepad++ application (maybe this is where 8375 fits in - remember the “show” status of incremental search) - either way, my selected options are forgotten.

                                    Contrast that to opening the Find dialogue between Notepad++ application relaunches, things like “Match whole word”, “Match case”, “Search mode” - they are all remembered - saved in config.xml.

                                    I was wondering if the two check options in Incremental Search (and maybe the visible status of the bar itself) can be GUI options saved in config.xml?

                                    I guess a feature request if I really want it.

                                    Cheers.

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                                      cmeriaux
                                      last edited by Jun 6, 2020, 6:26 AM

                                      @Michael-Vincent I thinks add incremental parameters to the global config file is a good idea.
                                      I’ve already proposed this feature on the conversation of this feature https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/8248#issuecomment-626377716 but author reacted with a thumb down. So I doubt it would be accepted.
                                      But you can write a new issue on github, the author may change it’s opinion… we never knows

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                                        asvc
                                        last edited by Jun 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

                                        Has there been any traction on incremental search with regexp support?

                                        I went through the NPP’s GitHub page and the Issue #8248 was last updated a month ago.

                                        That being said, it reads like @sasumner is now slightly less critical of the idea :)

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                                          Ekopalypse @asvc
                                          last edited by Jun 21, 2020, 11:50 AM

                                          @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                          Has there been any traction on incremental search with regexp support?

                                          Not that I’m aware.

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