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    cmeriaux
    last edited by May 18, 2020, 5:55 AM

    @asvc Thanks for the futur request.
    The regexp issue may be related to the one already opened on github tracker

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      asvc @cmeriaux
      last edited by May 18, 2020, 10:03 AM

      @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

      The regexp issue may be related to the one already opened on github tracker

      Which one? I might have missed the link.

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        favdish @cmeriaux
        last edited by favdish May 18, 2020, 10:24 AM May 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

        @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

        here is a survey about the “incremental search” usefulness.
        Do you use it ?
        Yes.

        Do you need regular expression support ?
        In general, yes of course. I would not even consider using a text editor w/o regex support. However, specifically in incremental search, no.

        Do you need an incremental mode in the find panel ?
        Do you need an incremental mode in the replace panel ?
        Do you need an incremental mode in the mark panel ?
        No.

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          cmeriaux @asvc
          last edited by May 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

          @asvc
          https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/3640
          https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/8269

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            Michael Vincent
            last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 7:25 PM

            Not to beat a dead horse, but this is related to incremental search.

            When I use incremental search and tick both “Highlight all” and “Match case”, do my search then close Notepad++. Upon re-open, they are not ticked anymore. Seems incremental search options are not saved in config.xml the way regular Find panel options are.

            I think that would be nice improvement to incremental search that wouldn’t ruffle too many feathers?

            Cheers.

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              Alan Kilborn @Michael Vincent
              last edited by Alan Kilborn Jun 5, 2020, 7:32 PM Jun 5, 2020, 7:30 PM

              @Michael-Vincent

              If you’re saying that to @cmeriaux , well, then I think he already had that idea: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/7753
              :-)
              But…it appeared from that that at least part of the problem was fixed already??

              Someone else had a somewhat-related idea in just the last 24 hours: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/8375

              Both are good ideas, I think.

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                Michael Vincent @Alan Kilborn
                last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 7:39 PM

                @Alan-Kilborn

                I was saying it to anyone that would listen - I can always count on you :-)

                I think my question / idea is a bit different. @cmeriaux 7753 does appear fixed, opening the bar, selecting options, closing bar, reopening bar - my selections are still there. I proposing to close the Notepad++ application altogether.

                Then re-launch Notepad++ application (maybe this is where 8375 fits in - remember the “show” status of incremental search) - either way, my selected options are forgotten.

                Contrast that to opening the Find dialogue between Notepad++ application relaunches, things like “Match whole word”, “Match case”, “Search mode” - they are all remembered - saved in config.xml.

                I was wondering if the two check options in Incremental Search (and maybe the visible status of the bar itself) can be GUI options saved in config.xml?

                I guess a feature request if I really want it.

                Cheers.

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                  cmeriaux
                  last edited by Jun 6, 2020, 6:26 AM

                  @Michael-Vincent I thinks add incremental parameters to the global config file is a good idea.
                  I’ve already proposed this feature on the conversation of this feature https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/8248#issuecomment-626377716 but author reacted with a thumb down. So I doubt it would be accepted.
                  But you can write a new issue on github, the author may change it’s opinion… we never knows

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                    asvc
                    last edited by Jun 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

                    Has there been any traction on incremental search with regexp support?

                    I went through the NPP’s GitHub page and the Issue #8248 was last updated a month ago.

                    That being said, it reads like @sasumner is now slightly less critical of the idea :)

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                      Ekopalypse @asvc
                      last edited by Jun 21, 2020, 11:50 AM

                      @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                      Has there been any traction on incremental search with regexp support?

                      Not that I’m aware.

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                        cmeriaux
                        last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 5:58 AM

                        @asvc I’m affraid that the war has been lost, the feature won’t be implemented.
                        I’m sorry

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                          asvc @Ekopalypse
                          last edited by Jun 23, 2020, 1:24 PM

                          That feeling when you want to use a text editor, but it actively refuses to be used… I will try to poke @sasumner at GitHub one last time.

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                            asvc
                            last edited by Jun 26, 2020, 1:00 PM

                            When one door closes, another opens. Let’s try with the fork: https://github.com/dail8859/NotepadNext/issues/4

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                              Alan Kilborn @asvc
                              last edited by Jun 26, 2020, 1:14 PM

                              @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                              the fork

                              Why do you think NotepadNext is a fork of Notepad++?

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                                guy038
                                last edited by guy038 Jun 26, 2020, 7:49 PM Jun 26, 2020, 7:46 PM

                                Hello, @don-ho, @cmeriaux, @alan-kilborn, @asvc, @ekopalypse, @michael-vincent, @astrosofista, @mapje71, @terry-r and All,

                                In order to promote a bit the incremental search, with regular expressions I just had an idea :

                                Why don’t we propose to put a new setting in the config.xml file to allow this new incremental search mode ? So, by default, for non-experienced users, the incremental search would remain a classical search ;-))

                                I mean, in the same way that @don-ho, preserved the backward regex search with this new regexBackward4PowerUser attribute in the FindHistory tag, since N++ 7.8.7 Release 4. See my request to @don-ho, one month ago, for such a setting, in the last part of this post :

                                https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/54520

                                Just hope you won’t find this idea too ridiculous !

                                Best Regards

                                guy038

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                                  cmeriaux @Alan Kilborn
                                  last edited by Jun 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

                                  Nice fork. Qt is nicer than mfc. Too bad there isn’t a python API for plug-in because I don’t like Lua.

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                                    cmeriaux @guy038
                                    last edited by Jun 26, 2020, 9:01 PM

                                    @guy038 your idea is a good compromise but I think for a feature like this, it should be mainstream wheter be hidden through a config parameter

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                                      asvc @cmeriaux
                                      last edited by Jun 29, 2020, 2:37 PM

                                      @Alan-Kilborn said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                      Why do you think NotepadNext is a fork of Notepad++?

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                                      @cmeriaux said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                      @guy038 your idea is a good compromise but I think for a feature like this, it should be mainstream wheter be hidden through a config parameter

                                      That’s a start! It can be used to gently introduce the functionality without creating any sort of discomfort for long-term users. Then, based on feedback, setting can be exposed in GUI.

                                      Now… How to deliver this message to @donho without annoying him with repetitive requests? :)

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                                        Alan Kilborn @asvc
                                        last edited by Jun 29, 2020, 2:48 PM

                                        @asvc said in survey: Incremental search usefulness:

                                        How to deliver this message to @donho without annoying him with repetitive requests?

                                        Good luck figuring that one out. :-)

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                                          cmeriaux @asvc
                                          last edited by Jun 29, 2020, 6:48 PM

                                          @asvc you can write him an email, email address is available on website

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