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    • Claudia FrankC
      Claudia Frank @Scott Sumner
      last edited by

      @Scott-Sumner

      No, if you take into account that research is resulting the same but
      yes if you took that statement in general.
      I’m comparing npp dialog search and python script research results.

      But you are right, confusing!

      From testing it seems that research and npp search behave the same
      if flags are set the same.

      Cheers
      Claudia

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      • Alan KilbornA
        Alan Kilborn @Claudia Frank
        last edited by

        @Claudia-Frank , do you still have more testing to do, or have you taken it as far as it can go? If you are done, then I have questions. :)

        The main question is, should the golden rule be, when writing Pythonscript, to forget about embedding (?i) at the front of a regular expession string, and setting the flags parameter to re.IGNORECASE (or re.I, or even 2) to get the behavior that is desired?

        I always liked using (?i) because that way, when reading a regex from left to right, I could prepare myself properly, rather than having to look for a somewhat disconnected flags parameter. But, if things aren’t going to work right, I can learn another way.

        However, I’m still confused about what I should do to make things work right in all cases… :(

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        • Claudia FrankC
          Claudia Frank @Alan Kilborn
          last edited by

          @Alan-Kilborn ,
          at the moment, it looks like my last statement about the flags and if set the same seems to be correct.
          But this could mean I just haven’t found the regex which breaks it again or it is simply true.
          I like to tend to the latter :-)

          Does it matter in regards to your script?
          I assume, only if you want to compare with the interactive search dialog or
          when creating the regex with the dialog and afterwards using it in a script.

          If my statement about the flags is true, and you want to have the script behave exactly the same
          as npps find dialog does, then you need to provide the flags as npp does.

          I do see the advantage of using the modifiers but it looks like that neither pythonscript
          nor npp do it right in terms of the issue you found.

          Cheers
          Claudia

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          • Claudia FrankC
            Claudia Frank
            last edited by

            OK, from my point of view it looks like it is how I’ve described already.
            If npp find dialog and pythonscript research are using the same flags and regex,
            the result is the same.

            So, python script users needs to be aware that npp sets the ignorecase flag
            per default.

            If someone finds different behavior - please report.

            Cheers
            Claudia

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            • Alan KilbornA
              Alan Kilborn @Claudia Frank
              last edited by

              @Claudia-Frank said:

              Does it matter in regards to your script?

              Well…what matters in regards to my script is that the regex search works correctly. The discussion about interactive versus scripted search and embedded flags versus separate flags is nice, but…

              The bottom line is that the scripted search has a problem, and that problem is seemingly related to the use of \< and \> in the regex, which I would like to be able to use. So, okay, we can “fix” that by working around it by playing with the flags stuff, and that is all fine, I guess.

              But should that become a general rule for using Pythonscript’s re.search() function, based upon someone finding one weird case? Maybe there is no great answer to that at this point, but I’m attempting to create something general purpose, where I can’t test all possible regexes for how they work at coding time, as they are input at run-time.

              So I’m left wondering if the best thing to do when coding with editor.research() is to never embed (?i) or (?-i) in the regex, and instead always use the flags parameter. Perhaps based upon the data we have at this moment, that is the best course of action.

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              • Claudia FrankC
                Claudia Frank @Alan Kilborn
                last edited by

                @Alan-Kilborn

                Well…what matters in regards to my script is that the regex search works correctly.

                More philosophic, what means correct if we talk about regex.
                As long as the same regex can be interpreted differently by different regex engines
                how can we be sure what is right or wrong.

                I agree, I assumed too, that using the modifiers overrules the flags but with the regex
                you used we see it isn’t. I don’t know if this is a bug in the implementation of the boost
                regex engine or a bug of the boost regex engine. I don’t think that I will go in that detail.

                Concerning the correctness of the scripts - you found one misbehavior, I’m quite certain that others exist.

                The bottom line is that the scripted search has a problem, and that problem is seemingly related to the use of < and > in the regex

                Just to be clear, both, npp and pythonscript behave the same. It is not only python script which does this.

                which I would like to be able to use. So, okay, we can “fix” that by working around it by playing with the flags stuff, and that is all fine, I guess.

                From the test it looks like only the “start of word” and “end of word” word boundaries behave strange.
                If you stop using this particular item you might have already solved it.
                Until you discover the next issue.

                But should that become a general rule for using Pythonscript’s re.search() function, based upon someone finding one weird case?
                Maybe there is no great answer to that at this point, but I’m attempting to create something general purpose,
                where I can’t test all possible regexes for how they work at coding time, as they are input at run-time.
                So I’m left wondering if the best thing to do when coding with editor.research() is to never embed (?i) or (?-i) in the regex,
                and instead always use the flags parameter. Perhaps based upon the data we have at this moment, that is the best course of action.

                Personally, I’m avoiding now using the modifiers in scripts and using flags when needed.

                Cheers
                Claudia

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                • MAPJe71M
                  MAPJe71
                  last edited by

                  Wondering if it’s only an issue with editor.research( ... ), as I have been using modifiers with editor.rereplace( ... ) successfully.

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                  • Claudia FrankC
                    Claudia Frank @MAPJe71
                    last edited by Claudia Frank

                    @MAPJe71

                    Yep - same issue.

                    New doc with the word Print only

                    editor.rereplace('(?i)\<print\>', 'PRINT')
                    

                    fails where

                    editor.rereplace('\<print\>', 'PRINT', 2)
                    

                    works

                    UUhhh - I should avoid magic numbers - 2=re.I

                    Cheers
                    Claudia

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                    • MAPJe71M
                      MAPJe71
                      last edited by

                      UUhhh - I should avoid magic numbers - 2=re.I

                      Damn right!!! LOL

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                      • guy038G
                        guy038
                        last edited by guy038

                        Hi, All,

                        I did some tests, using the classical Find dialog, with the original text, below :

                        xyz
                        xYz
                        xyZ
                        xYZ
                        Xyz
                        XYz
                        XyZ
                        XYZ
                        -----
                        1xyz
                        1xYz
                        1xyZ
                        1xYZ
                        1Xyz
                        1XYz
                        1XyZ
                        1XYZ
                        -----
                        xyz9
                        xYz9
                        xyZ9
                        xYZ9
                        Xyz9
                        XYz9
                        XyZ9
                        XYZ9
                        -----
                        1xyz9
                        1xYz9
                        1xyZ9
                        1xYZ9
                        1Xyz9
                        1XYz9
                        1XyZ9
                        1XYZ9
                        

                        Then I tested the different regexes

                        • xYZ

                        • xYZ\>

                        • xYZ\b

                        • \<xYZ

                        • \bxYZ

                        • \<xYZ\>

                        • \bxYZ\b

                        • (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$)

                        • With the Match case option ON

                        • With the Match case option OFF

                        • Preceded by (?i) and with the Match case option ON

                        • Preceded by (?i) and with the Match case option OFF

                        • Preceded by (?-i) and with the Match case option ON

                        • Preceded by (?-i) and with the Match case option OFF

                        I obtained the six following tables, where :

                        • A correct match is indicated by a * character

                        • An incorrect match is indicated by the E letter ( Error )


                        +-------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                        |       |            Option "Match case"  ON           and           Regex, below            |
                        | Text  |-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------|
                        |       | xYZ | xYZ\> | xYZ\b | \<xYZ | \bxYZ | \<xYZ\> | \bxYZ\b | (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$) |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | xyz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | xYz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | xyZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | xYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | Xyz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | XYz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | XyZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | XYZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | 1xyz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xyZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1Xyz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XyZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | xyz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | xYz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | xyZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | xYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | Xyz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | XYz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | XyZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | XYZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | 1xyz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xyZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1Xyz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XyZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        
                        
                        +-------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                        |       |            Option "Match case"  OFF          and           Regex, below            |
                        | Text  |-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------|
                        |       | xYZ | xYZ\> | xYZ\b | \<xYZ | \bxYZ | \<xYZ\> | \bxYZ\b | (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$) |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | xyz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | xYz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | xyZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | xYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | Xyz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | XYz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | XyZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | XYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | 1xyz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xyZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1Xyz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XyZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | xyz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | xYz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | xyZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | xYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | Xyz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | XYz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | XyZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | XYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | 1xyz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xyZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1Xyz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XyZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        
                        
                        +-------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                        |       |       Option "Match case"  ON       and       Regex, below, PRECEDED by (?i)       |
                        | Text  |-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------|
                        |       | xYZ | xYZ\> | xYZ\b | \<xYZ | \bxYZ | \<xYZ\> | \bxYZ\b | (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$) |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | xyz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | xYz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | xyZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | xYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                        | Xyz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   E   |   *   |    E    |    *    |            *             |
                        | XYz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   E   |   *   |    E    |    *    |            *             |
                        | XyZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   E   |   *   |    E    |    *    |            *             |
                        | XYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   E   |   *   |    E    |    *    |            *             |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | 1xyz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xyZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1Xyz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XyZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | xyz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | xYz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | xyZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | xYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | Xyz9  |  *  |       |       |   E   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | XYz9  |  *  |       |       |   E   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | XyZ9  |  *  |       |       |   E   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        | XYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   E   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        | 1xyz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xyZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1xYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1Xyz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XyZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        | 1XYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                        +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                        
                        
                        
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                        • guy038G
                          guy038
                          last edited by guy038

                          I need to split this post in two parts because it exceeds 16384 characters !

                          +-------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                          |       |       Option "Match case"  OFF       and       Regex, below, PRECEDED by (?i)      |
                          | Text  |-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------|
                          |       | xYZ | xYZ\> | xYZ\b | \<xYZ | \bxYZ | \<xYZ\> | \bxYZ\b | (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$) |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | xyz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | xYz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | xyZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | xYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | Xyz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | XYz   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | XyZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | XYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | 1xyz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xyZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1Xyz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYz  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XyZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | xyz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | xYz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | xyZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | xYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | Xyz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | XYz9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | XyZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | XYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | 1xyz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xyZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1Xyz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYz9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XyZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          
                          
                          +-------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                          |       |       Option "Match case"  ON       and       Regex, below, PRECEDED by (?-i)      |
                          | Text  |-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------|
                          |       | xYZ | xYZ\> | xYZ\b | \<xYZ | \bxYZ | \<xYZ\> | \bxYZ\b | (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$) |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | xyz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xyZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |   *   |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | Xyz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XyZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | 1xyz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xyZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1Xyz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XyZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | xyz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xyZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |   *   |         |         |                          |
                          | Xyz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XyZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | 1xyz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xyZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1Xyz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XyZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          
                          
                          +-------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                          |       |       Option "Match case"  OFF       and       Regex, below, PRECEDED by (?-i)     |
                          | Text  |-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------|
                          |       | xYZ | xYZ\> | xYZ\b | \<xYZ | \bxYZ | \<xYZ\> | \bxYZ\b | (^|(?<=\W))xYZ((?=\W)|$) |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | xyz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xyZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYZ   |  *  |   *   |   *   |   *   |       |    *    |    *    |            *             |
                          | Xyz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYz   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XyZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYZ   |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | 1xyz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xyZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYZ  |  *  |   *   |   *   |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1Xyz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYz  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XyZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYZ  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | xyz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xyZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | xYZ9  |  *  |       |       |   *   |       |         |         |                          |
                          | Xyz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYz9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XyZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | XYZ9  |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          | 1xyz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xyZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1xYZ9 |  *  |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1Xyz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYz9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XyZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          | 1XYZ9 |     |       |       |       |       |         |         |                          |
                          +-------+-----+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------+---------+--------------------------+
                          

                          From these results, we can deduce than the N++ Boost regex engine lacks to match 4 ( or 8 ) cases, ONLY IF the four conditions, below, occur, simultaneously :

                          • The Match case option, of the Find dialog, is ON

                          • A (?i) modifier starts the regex

                          • The regex begins with the \< assertion

                          • The text, to match, begins with an UPPER letter


                          Luckily :

                          • The regex \<xYZ can be changed by the regex \bxYZ

                          • The regex \<xYZ\> can be changed by the regex \bxYZ\b

                          And note that :

                          • The assertion \< may be replaced by the assertion (^|(?<=\W))

                          • The assertion \> may be replaced by the assertion ((?=\W)|$)

                          Cheers

                          guy038

                          BTW, Claudia, when you said :

                          I agree, I assumed too, that using the modifiers overrules the flags but with the regex
                          you used we see it isn’t.

                          I disagree ! Indeed :

                          Considering the text below :

                          xyz
                          xYz
                          xyZ
                          xYZ
                          Xyz
                          XYz
                          XyZ
                          XYZ
                          

                          Of course, the two regexes (?i)\<xYZ and (?i)\<xYZ\>, with the Match case option ON, match the first four cases, only

                          But, the two regexes (?i)\<XYZ and (?i)\<XYZ\>, with the Match case option ON, ALSO match the first four cases, only !

                          So, I do think that the in-line modifiers (?i) and (?-i) have ALWAYS priority over the Match case option

                          And, like you, I rather think that it’s just a bug [ in the implementation ] of the Boost regex engine !

                          Besides, the two regexes (?i)\bxYZ and (?i)\bxYZ\b, with the Match case option ON, correctly match the eight cases, above, of the string “xyz” :-)) => The (?i) modifier forces the insensitive search !

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                          • Claudia FrankC
                            Claudia Frank
                            last edited by

                            Hi Guy,

                            thx for your effort on this but I have to disagree with your disagree ;-D

                            From regex execution point of view there are two ways to change
                            the case behavior. Either by providing a flag or using the in-line modifiers.
                            When providing the flag everything is ok (at least for the moment) - so
                            I have to assume that the regex engine works correctly in this case.
                            When providing the in-line modifier and the flags then it isn’t ok always.
                            This does mean there is a bug and it must be related to how in-line modifiers
                            are handled against flags. And that makes me think that the bug is when doing
                            this overwrite - which means we can’t rely on it. Maybe other in-line modifiers
                            together with some special regex constructs behave wrong as well.

                            Cheers
                            Claudia

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                            • guy038G
                              guy038
                              last edited by guy038

                              Hello, Claudia and All,

                              Hum…,finally, Claudia, I think that you’re right :-) Indeed, if we built the general table, below, which recapitulates the main cases, it’s obvious that :

                              • Results are OK, when the “Match case” flag, is ONLY used, WITHOUT any in-line modifier ( Lines 1 and 4 )

                              • Results seem OK, ( UP TO NOW ), when the “Match case” flag is used, with a starting (?-i) in-line modifier ( Lines 3 et 6 )

                              • Results seem OK, ( UP TO NOW ), when the “Match case” flag is OFF, with a starting (?i) in-line modifier ( Line 2 )

                              • Results are NOT OK, when the “Match case” flag is ON, with a starting (?i) in-line modifier and a regex which begins with the \< assertion ( Line 5 )

                              Luckily, this LAST case ( Line 5 ) is rather rare and does not occur if we use the \b syntax, instead of \< :-))

                              +=======+=======================+====================+===========+==================+
                              |  Row  |   "Match case" flag   |  In-line modifier  |  Results  |     Remarks      |
                              +=======+=======================+====================+===========+==================+
                              |   1   |          OFF          |         NO         |  Correct  |  Implicit (?i)   |
                              +-------+-----------------------+--------------------+-----------+------------------+
                              |   2   |          OFF          |        (?i)        |  Correct  |                  |
                              +-------+-----------------------+--------------------+-----------+------------------+
                              |   3   |          OFF          |        (?-i)       |  Correct  |                  |
                              +=======+=======================+====================+===========+==================+
                              |   4   |          ON           |         NO         |  Correct  |  Implicit (?-i)  |
                              +-------+-----------------------+--------------------+-----------+------------------+
                              |   5   |          ON           |        (?i)        |  PROBLEM  |  IF use of \<    |
                              +-------+-----------------------+--------------------+-----------+------------------+
                              |   6   |          ON           |        (?-i)       |  Correct  |                  |
                              +=======+=======================+====================+===========+==================+
                              

                              Cheers,

                              guy038

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                              • Alan KilbornA
                                Alan Kilborn
                                last edited by

                                First of all, it is great to see such rousing discussion about the issue I discovered! :-) Thanks to all for that.

                                There are lots of things to think about coming out of this discussion, but the most obvious and immediate one is a question for Mr Guy: You keep suggesting to use \b instead of \< , but they are not always equivalent, correct? They may be equivalent for certain examples, but in the most general case I believe they are different. If they weren’t different, there would be no reason for both to exist in the N++/Boost engine…

                                I mean, even I discussed using \b instead in my very first posting in this thread, but that was just as a test, not necessarily a blanket substitution. I guess I don’t want others reading this thread to takeaway that \b and \< are the exact same thing.

                                Comments? Thoughts?

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                                • MAPJe71M
                                  MAPJe71
                                  last edited by

                                  See reference on Word Boundaries for

                                  • description on differences between \b, \< and \>;
                                  • which “engine” supports what.
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                                  • guy038G
                                    guy038
                                    last edited by guy038

                                    Hi Alan and MapJe71,

                                    Thanks, MapJe71, for the link about Word Boundaries, from the definitive site about regular expressions ! Of course, Alan, I know the differences between the three assertions : \b , \< and \>. I just preferred not to speak about it, first, in order to keep concentrated on your problem !

                                    To be short, the \b assertion acts, either, as a \< assertion OR as a \> assertion. This explains that the regex \<WORD\> can be simply replaced by the regex \bWORD\b.

                                    BTW, in the Words Boundaries table, I noticed the POSIX word boundaries ( [[:<:]] and [[:>:]] ) which have, exactly, the same meaning as the GNU word boundaries \< and >\ ). These syntaxes are functional, with the N++ Boost regex engine ! Unfortunately, Alan, the problem that you noticed does occur with the POSIX word boundaries, too :-((.


                                    On top of that, from the LAST row of the “Word Boundaries” table, named Word Boundaries behaviour, it is said that “word boundaries” are not correctly handled, in most regex engines :

                                    Word boundaries always match at the start of the match attempt if that position is followed by a word character, regardless of the character that precedes the start of the match attempt. (Thus, word boundaries are not handled correctly for the second and following match attempts in the same string.)

                                    And it shows an example :

                                    \b. matches all of the letters but not the space when iterating over all matches, in the string “abc def”


                                    So, I did some tests ( again !! )

                                    • I copied this single sentence, below, part of the license.txt file, in a new tab
                                    By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom...
                                    
                                    • In the Find dialog, I left the Match case and the . matches newline options UNCHECKED

                                    • I selected, of course, the Regular expression search mode

                                    • I tested the different regexes, below, against the example text

                                    REMARK : In the table, below, each dash character, under the sentence, indicates a match of the corresponding regex(es) !

                                    ========================================================================================================================
                                    |     REGEXES     |                EXAMPLE text    -     MATCHES noted by a DASH character               |   RESULTS   |
                                    ========================================================================================================================
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... | INCORRECT ! |
                                    |  (^|(?<!\w)).   | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    +-----------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  \b.            |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  \<.            |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  [[:<:]].       |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... | INCORRECT ! |
                                    |  \b\w           | -- --------  --- --- ------- ------ ------- -- -------- -- --------- ---- -------    |             |
                                    |  \<\w           |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  [[:<:]]\w      |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  (^|(?<!\w))\w  |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    +-----------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... |  INCORRECT  |
                                    |  (^|(?<=\W)).   | -  -        -    -   -       -      -       -  -        -  -         -    -       -  |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    +-----------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
                                    |                 |                                                                                      | (At last !) |
                                    |                 | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... |             |
                                    |  (^|(?<=\W))\w  | -  -         -   -   -       -      -       -  -        -  -         -    -          |   CORRECT   |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    ==================+======================================================================================+==============
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... | INCORRECT ! |
                                    |  .\b            |  --       - -  --  --      --     --      -- --       -- --        --   --      -    |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    +-----------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  .((?=\W)|$)    | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... | INCORRECT ! |
                                    |  .((?!\w)|$)    |  -        --   -   -       -      -       -  -        -  -         -    -       ---- |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    +-----------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  .\>            |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  .[[:>:]]       |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  \w\b           | By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom... |   CORRECT   |
                                    |  \w\>           |  -        -    -   -       -      -       -  -        -  -         -    -       -    |             |
                                    |  \w[[:>:]]      |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  \w((?=\W)|$)   |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |  \w((?!\w)|$)   |                                                                                      |             |
                                    |                 |                                                                                      |             |
                                    ========================================================================================================================
                                    

                                    From that table, it obvious that the handle of the assertions, by the N++ Boost engine, seems quite weird !!!

                                    To be coherent, only two regexes, with similar syntax, should be used :

                                    • The regex (^|(?<=\W))\w, which matches the FIRST character of a word

                                    • The regex \w((?=\W)|$), which matches the LAST character of a word

                                    => The regex (^|(?<=\W))\w|\w((?=\W)|$) matches the first AND the last characters of a word

                                    Best Regards,

                                    guy038

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