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    • Jeff JohnstonJ
      Jeff Johnston
      last edited by

      So the general solution here seems to be:

      The 64-bit version of Notepad++ is pretty much useless for a lot of us (including myself.) Having a text editor be in 64-bit doesn’t help me much, there are no really killer new features that have been added, and I can emulate a 32-bit program pretty easily on my system.

      I’m not sure why anybody uses the 64-bit version, honestly. Just download and install the old 32-bit version - I’m on 7.5.9 myself, and it works fine.

      I would be interested to hear if someone has some compelling argument for why 64-bit 7.6.6 is superior to 32-bit 7.5.9. I can’t see one.

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      • dinkumoilD
        dinkumoil @Alan Kilborn
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        @Alan-Kilborn said:

        is there a way to bind to a keycombo with that plugin?

        You can record a macro while typing the formula (including the terminating ENTER key) and assign this macro to a keyboard shortcut afterwards.

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        • Meta ChuhM
          Meta Chuh moderator @dinkumoil
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          @dinkumoil

          i’ve just seen that nppcalc is apparently also not available for x64, and can not serve as a date workaround replacement for textfx on npp x64.
          is this correct ?

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          • dinkumoilD
            dinkumoil @Meta Chuh
            last edited by

            @Meta-Chuh

            You are right, I’ve completely missed the fact that the question of @amarand was about a x64 plugin. Sorry for that confusion.

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            • Alan KilbornA
              Alan Kilborn @dinkumoil
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              @dinkumoil said:

              You can record a macro while typing the formula (including the terminating ENTER key) and assign this macro to a keyboard shortcut afterwards.

              Ah…but then wouldn’t the original text of the “formula” stay as well? The whole NppCalc thing seems clunky, while in spirit it has some good ideas IMO…

              nppcalc is apparently also not available for x64,

              Yes, apparently another limiting factor.

              I’m still thinking that Pythonscript, if people want to go to the trouble of installing it, offers the best and certainly the most customizable (as to time/date format) solution.

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              • Alan KilbornA
                Alan Kilborn @Jeff Johnston
                last edited by

                @Jeff-Johnston said:

                compelling argument for why 64-bit 7.6.6 is superior to 32-bit 7.5.9

                I don’t think there is anything compelling… 64-bit is the future, though…so there’s that.

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                • dinkumoilD
                  dinkumoil @Alan Kilborn
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                  @Alan-Kilborn said:

                  but then wouldn’t the original text of the “formula” stay as well?

                  Yes it would, as I already wrote in my first NppCalc posting.

                  The whole NppCalc thing seems clunky, while in spirit it has some good ideas

                  I agree, it is somewhat like a half-baked Excel. But one can open a document in Npp and use it like some kind of dynamic notebook and as such NppCalc can be useful.

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                  • PeterJonesP
                    PeterJones
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                    @Jeff-Johnston said:

                    compelling argument for why 64-bit 7.6.6 is superior

                    1. Though 64-bit still has an unreasonably-small file-size limit due to the old Scintilla component, you can still open larger files with Notepad++ 64-bit than with 32-bit
                    2. When you do File > Open Containing Folder… > Explorer / cmd, 32-bit Notepad++ will open the 32-bit explorer or cmd.exe window
                    3. When running any 32-bit application (like 32-bit Notepad++) in a 64-bit Windows OS, Windows will lie to you: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/winprog64/file-system-redirector
                      • In NPP32 (or cmd.exe 32, or explorer.exe 32, or …), if you try to open a file in %windir%\system32 (which is where the 64bit windows system files go), it will actually open %windir%\syswow64, but will tell you that it’s system32.
                      • in NPP32, in order to edit a file that’s really in the 64bit system directory, you have to use the %windir%\sysnative alias
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                    • Jeff JohnstonJ
                      Jeff Johnston
                      last edited by

                      Really the only big thing in TextFX that I miss a whole lot in Notepad ++ 64 is TextFX > Tools > Sort, which has a lot of useful options (case-sensitive, case-insensitive) and allows you to sort UNIQUE to remove duplicates. Is there anything current that allows that?

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                      • Alan KilbornA
                        Alan Kilborn @Jeff Johnston
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                        @Jeff-Johnston

                        Notepad++ itself has some sorting options (though “case” criterion isn’t there) in the Edit menu’s Line Operations area. A recent (7.6.x) Notepad++ has a Remove Consecutive Duplicate Lines command, which could be used after a sort, to replicate the TextFX “unique sort” feature you described.

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                        • Alan KilbornA
                          Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
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                          @PeterJones

                          Not very compelling. :)

                          When you do File > Open Containing Folder… > Explorer / cmd, 32-bit Notepad++ will open the 32-bit explorer or cmd.exe window

                          I’m not sure about that one…doesn’t 64-bit Notepad++ open a 64-bit explorer or cmd window?

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                          • PeterJonesP
                            PeterJones
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                            @Alan-Kilborn said:

                            I’m not sure about that one…doesn’t 64-bit Notepad++ open a 64-bit explorer or cmd window?

                            Yes. And I never see a good reason for not using 64-bit explorer or cmd window. And when 32-bit notepad++ opens a 32-bit explorer or cmd, then explorer/cmd are back to lying to me (#3). I really don’t like that Windows lies to me.

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                            • Alan KilbornA
                              Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
                              last edited by

                              @PeterJones said:

                              I really don’t like that Windows lies to me.

                              Yeah. Do you really edit text files in those areas all that often though?

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                              • PeterJonesP
                                PeterJones
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                                @Alan-Kilborn said:

                                all that often

                                Not really, no. It’s the principle of the thing. ;-)

                                My list above, plus your “64-bit is the future”, was compelling enough for me to make the switch to 64-bit some time back. And it’s compelling enough to show 64-bit is superior… but for some users (especially those who use the special features of TextFX, or of other not-yet-converted plugins), there are still good reasons for staying on 32-bit. Each user needs to weigh the pros and cons, and make an informed decision.

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                                • Jeff JohnstonJ
                                  Jeff Johnston @Alan Kilborn
                                  last edited by

                                  @Alan-Kilborn - That’s very nice, thanks! In that case I think I’ll use 64-bit Notepad++.

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