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    chcg
    last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 6:06 PM

    @donho would be good to have the information about the plugin folder changes and the manual movement from the webpage
    also in the changelog.

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      chcg
      last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

      @dinkumoil
      ad 1, Can’t confirm the issue with plugin manager. The list is downloaded for me and also the setting dialog is ok.
      ad 2, What do you see under the Information field? For me it is:

      C:\Users\XXX\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++\plugins\Config
      Plugins in user’s AppData directory are enabled. Remove the allowAppDataPlugins.xml file from the Notepad++ directory to disable.

      ad 3, Don’t see the crash, maybe for me the behaviour is ok, as PM was already installed before

      4, What I see is that the installed plugins are no longer found, because there is no adaptation to the new location under %LOCALAPPDATA% yet.

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        rinku singh @Meta Chuh
        last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 6:38 PM

        @Meta-Chuh right thing
        but i clean that directory before install because 7.5.9 was installed

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          dinkumoil
          last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 7:11 PM

          @chcg

          Solved it. I had only copied all plugin DLL files to the new plugins directory in %LocalAppData%, thus there had been plugin DLL files in the old plugins directory too. Removing these solved the problem.

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            dinkumoil
            last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 7:46 PM

            I have created a Gist with an updated version of my migration script above.

            Link: https://gist.github.com/dinkumoil/cb65c277dda5158174f4849e08ba872f

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              chcg
              last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 7:56 PM

              @donho Is it expected/intended behaviour that the plugin admin is not available for the zip/7z package?

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                dinkumoil
                last edited by dinkumoil Nov 13, 2018, 8:04 PM Nov 13, 2018, 8:04 PM

                @chcg

                Seems like this could be the answer. See the Edit.

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                  chcg
                  last edited by chcg Nov 13, 2018, 8:15 PM Nov 13, 2018, 8:14 PM

                  @dinkumoil Thanks for the hint, already forgot that I manually copied GUP to the zip package update folder.

                  @donho At https://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/plugin-admin.html the links are still at
                  N++ 7.5.9
                  https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/notepad++.7.5.9.debug.x86.zip
                  https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/notepad++7.5.9.debug.x64.zip
                  and GUP 5.0.3
                  https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/wingup.5.0.3.release.x32.zip
                  https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/wingup.5.0.3.release.x64.zip

                  which should be updated also to avoid confusion.

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                    MAPJe71
                    last edited by Nov 13, 2018, 10:06 PM

                    Up till this version I had both the 32-bit and the 64-bit N++ installed with their plugins installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\plugins and C:\Program Files\Notepad++\plugins respectively. The configuration files were shared and located in C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++.
                    This seems no longer possible as plugins are now loaded from C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins for both 32-bit and 64-bit N++.

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                      donho @rinku singh
                      last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 12:42 PM

                      @gurikbal-singh

                      settings > import > import plugins (s)
                      not working

                      It’ll be fixed in the next release.

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                        donho @dinkumoil
                        last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

                        @dinkumoil

                        File nppPluginList.dll is stored in a folder in the user profile of the user who has installed/updated Npp. Thus other users on the same computer have no plugin list.
                        Except the standard plugins installed with Npp installer, already installed plugins are left in Npp install dir, thus they are not available in Npp Plugins menu.
                        Plugin Admin displays plugins in an unsorted list.

                        The most important is 1., it should be fixed ASAP.

                        Why the most important is 1 ?
                        OTOH, people will be able to download NppPluginList.dll in the future.

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                          donho @dinkumoil
                          last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

                          @dinkumoil

                          Solved it. I had only copied all plugin DLL files to the new plugins directory in %LocalAppData%, thus there had been plugin DLL files in the old plugins directory too. Removing these solved the problem.

                          Are you telling us that it’s not enough to copy the existing plugins into new PLUGINS HOME, and it necessary to remove existing plugins from their location to make plugins be loaded?

                          That’s wired - copying the existing plugins into new PLUGINS HOME by respecting the new plugin folder structure SHOULD BE ENOUGH. The plugins left in the old location are just ignore. Is it not the case?

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                            dinkumoil
                            last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

                            @donho said:

                            Why the most important is 1 ?
                            OTOH, people will be able to download NppPluginList.dll in the future.

                            Point 3. is a comfort feature. Point 2. is nasty for users but will not be changed (useless to discuss about it). Point 1. is also nasty for users because currently they can not download easily a NppPluginList.dll and I already thought you will not refuse to change that.

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                              donho @chcg
                              last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

                              @chcg

                              Is it expected/intended behaviour that the plugin admin is not available for the zip/7z package?

                              It’s not an expected/intended behaviour that the plugin admin is not available for the zip/7z package, it’s rather a limitation due to the current ziplib used in WinGUp.

                              If you know a good alternative lib which is EASY (ie. with the vcxproj) to integrate, please let me know.

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                                bveldkamp
                                last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

                                I’m sure I’m missing something obvious, but… How do I open this new plugin manager? I think I checked every menu twice already.

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                                  dinkumoil @donho
                                  last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

                                  @donho said:

                                  Are you telling us that it’s not enough to copy the existing plugins into new PLUGINS HOME, and it necessary to remove existing plugins from their location to make plugins be loaded?

                                  That was my experience. Please note: the problem was with old Plugin Manager plugin, not with Notepad++ itself.

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                                    donho @chcg
                                    last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

                                    @chcg

                                    At https://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/plugin-admin.html the links are still at
                                    N++ 7.5.9

                                    It should be OK now.

                                    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/notepad++.7.5.9.debug.x86.zip
                                    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/notepad++7.5.9.debug.x64.zip
                                    and GUP 5.0.3
                                    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/wingup.5.0.3.release.x32.zip
                                    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/pluginListTestTools/wingup.5.0.3.release.x64.zip

                                    which should be updated also to avoid confusion.

                                    Thank you for your heads up. Will do it ASAP.

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                                      donho @MAPJe71
                                      last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:14 PM

                                      @MAPJe71

                                      Up till this version I had both the 32-bit and the 64-bit N++ installed with their plugins installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\plugins and C:\Program Files\Notepad++\plugins respectively. The configuration files were shared and located in C:\Users%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++.
                                      This seems no longer possible as plugins are now loaded from C:\Users%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\plugins for both 32-bit and 64-bit N++.

                                      I confirm.

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                                        dinkumoil @bveldkamp
                                        last edited by Nov 14, 2018, 1:29 PM

                                        @bveldkamp said:

                                        How do I open this new plugin manager?

                                        In the english locale there is in the main menu bar an entry Plugins. I don’t know how it is called in your locale, to find it you could switch to english via (menu) Settings -> (register card) General -> (combobox) Localization. In the drop down menu of Pluginsyou will find an entry Plugin Admin.

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                                          Andrew Briggs
                                          last edited by Andrew Briggs Nov 14, 2018, 1:32 PM Nov 14, 2018, 1:31 PM

                                          I confirm as well. Notepad++ needs to use folder names based on architecture e.g. %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\x64\ and %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Notepad++\x86 etc or some other structure that has unique folders for the 2 x64 and x86 architectures.

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