Support for Plugins Admin & NppPluginList - Round 2

DataCrypt

@rddim - Thank you! I extracted these files and now have the Plugin Admin which has allowed me to go grab my addons!

@dinkumoil - Thank you for the detailed explanation. Makes sense as to why the updater is not included in the portable version and how the updater is also now used for the Plugins. However, I would not update NPP this way - but rather download the ZIP file again to update. I only want the benefits of the updater to use it for plugins. Would be nice if NPP would know how it’s installed portable and include these files to work appropriately. Maybe something DonHo might look to include in a future update?

Thanks again!

Scott Sumner

@DataCrypt said:

I only want the benefits of the updater to use it for plugins

Am I the only one in the world that doesn’t constantly update stuff? I mean, I only go looking for updates if something is not working right…if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…otherwise you really may break it… How many people using Notepad++ had sh*tfits because they thought, “Sure, I’ll update Notepad++ to v.7.6…why the hell not?” and then spent the rest of the day scratching their heads (or worse, asking their I.T. departments) about where their plugins went?

donho

@Scott-Sumner said:

Am I the only one in the world that doesn’t constantly update stuff? I mean, I only go looking for updates if something is not working right…if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…otherwise you really may break it… How many people using Notepad++ had sh*tfits because they thought, “Sure, I’ll update Notepad++ to v.7.6…why the hell not?” and then spent the rest of the day scratching their heads (or worse, asking their I.T. departments) about where their plugins went?

I have apologized to all users for the inconvenient on the news:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/notepad-7.6.1-released.html

I guess no need to do it again here.

We will try to help users to get through all problems, that’s why this thread exists. You’re happy or not about new Plugins Admin, it will stay, because it’s important for the community. We need people in the community to help us, but we don’t need people’s whining - it makes the thread too long to read.

I have created a new category boycott Notepad++ so please use it if you wanna say any shit about Notepad++. Otherwise any complain without description of problem or constructive suggestion out of boycott Notepad++ will be removed.

Meta Chuh

@donho

forgive scott, we all just had a few rough days here lately trying to help other users.

i like the recent changes and everything you did worked for me so far.
there’s a lot of potential in it and we’ll try to support all newer users the best we can through all the changes because we see a reason in 99% of it

… and yes, the missing 1% will go to boycott Notepad++ here ;-) 😂👍

MrOuzo

now all Plugins going to %PROGRAMDATA%\Notepad++\plugins\ with a directory same name as the DLL…hmmm…for one DLL file?
I think the best thing is, the config for this plugin is also at this place. All what you need for a plugin in one directory. You can copy this directory with all config and files you need to another PC, or you can delete this directory and all files for this plugins are gone.

pnedev

@MrOuzo said:

I think the best thing is, the config for this plugin is also at this place.

It is not a good thing to do because you have one plugin dll for all users but every user has his/hers own unique config.

dinkumoil

@pnedev said:

It is not a good thing to do because you have one plugin dll for all users but every user has his/hers own unique config.

You are right. Additionally we would need a new method for plugins to query the path to their config files because Notepad++ can only answer the query if it knows which plugin has queried.

@MrOuzo Please note: There are also portable installations of Notepad++ where the path to the config files is different from that one of local installations.

The requirement to introduce a new query method for the config file path would break all existing plugins. Users would have to wait for an update of their plugins, which might never happen.

squeeze69

Hi.

Sigh, I’ve just updated to 7.6.1, 32bit version, no luck, Plugin Admin is still missing.
The old plugin manager “just worked”, but this one :(

Upgraded from 7.5.9 to 7.6.0, then to 7.6.1, moved the plugins as suggested (one directory = one plugin with the name of the main dll).

Still:

while installing, I cannot flag “autoupdate” (but the exec is there, GUP.EXE)…
After installation, there is no “plugin admin” anywhere. :(

BTW: apart from this annoying thing, Notepad++ is good as always.

Meta Chuh

@squeeze69

usually this should solve this problem:

make a backup of your plugins folder(s) if you need them

uninstall notepad++ completely
delete all Notepad++ folders you can find in:
%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%,
%LOCALAPPDATA%,
%APPDATA% and
%PROGRAMDATA%

reinstall with this 7.6.1 (x86) installer and make sure “Auto-Updater” and “Plugins Admin” are selected
(note: auto updater will be selected but greyed out as soon as plugins admin is checked because auto updater is mandatory for plugins admin)

donho

@dinkumoil said:

There is a known bug in the unzipping code for plugin ZIP packages. If a plugin comes with companion files, plugin installer GUP.exe may produce 0-byte files when unzipping them. Affected plugins may fail to work.

This issue is fixed and merged into master of wingup for Notepad++:
https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/wingup/commit/a4f12fd8cd0ca6eb6e44594b08ef6c9e2665a72e
The bug will be fixed in the next release.

dinkumoil

@donho said:

The bug will be fixed in the next release.

Thank you again!

shawnkhall

Feature request: column sorting within Plugins Admin. Since there’s no logical default sort order and the search is limited, sorting will help us find our favorite plugins.

DataCrypt

@donho Thank you for all your work on NPP. I like the new PlugIn Admin and if you can somehow include that in the portable version so that it’s available in a future release, that would be very helpful. Thank you again and happy holidays!

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ivanbuto

Question: Is it possible to make the new Plugins Admin work also on Windows XP or would this be too much work?
I tried Notepad++ to 7.6.1 with the Plugins Admin. The lists of plugins read fine, however, the update process didn’t work due to a missing function. I can provide a screenshot if needed.
Plugin Manager worked fine also with Windows XP.

donho

@DataCrypt said:

Thank you for all your work on NPP. I like the new PlugIn Admin and if you can somehow include that in the portable version so that it’s available in a future release, that would be very helpful. Thank you again and happy holidays!

It will be in the zipped package of next release (v7.6.2).

jackpoz

Plugin “XML Tools” shows an error about libxml and/or libxslt not being found. I copied both dlls in the new plugin subfolder C:\ProgramData\Notepad++\plugins\XMLTools but that didn’t fix the issue. Any clue where plugins should have their external dlls ?
Link to the screenshot

Serge Wenger

Admin Plugins does not work because I have to use the company proxy. I have no error message, but no new plugin installation or update are working correctly.

Serge Wenger

Is there a log or something to do to help to find a solution?

dumdi dum

Hi there,

maybe I just didn’t find the answer to my question, but shouldn’t it be possible to install plugins without admin privileges?

I did uninstall 6.9 with the silent switch and installed the 32 Bit 7.6.2 version with the silent switch aswell.

Now all Plugins are listed in the Programdata folder, where usually every user can create or delete folders - but still if I want to install one plugin with the plugin admin menu, notepad++ is closing and asks for administrator credentials.

Is this still the intended behavior?!

regards