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    • Alan KilbornA
      Alan Kilborn
      last edited by

      On my computer, I am a lowly user:

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      But whenever I run portable Notepad++ directly from its exe file (no shortcut involved) I end up in Administrator mode:

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      How can I prevent this from happening?

      I seem to recall someone else having this problem recently, but I can’t find the postings ATM. And I don’t think there was a resolution in that thread anyway. But could be wrong in which case I’d appreciate being pointed there if anyone knows where it is.

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      • Eko palypseE
        Eko palypse @Alan Kilborn
        last edited by

        @Alan-Kilborn

        very strange, are you sure, that you don’t have another instance in admin mode running?
        Does this happen even after a reboot?

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        • Alan KilbornA
          Alan Kilborn @Eko palypse
          last edited by

          @Eko-palypse said:

          are you sure, that you don’t have another instance in admin mode running?

          I am sure that this is not the case.

          Does this happen even after a reboot?

          Yes, it seems to be the standard way for N++ to run itself lately. I’m sure my I.T. dept did something “interesting” recently which now causes this to happen, but I’ve no idea what so that I can attempt countermeasures.

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          • Meta ChuhM
            Meta Chuh moderator @Alan Kilborn
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            @Alan-Kilborn

            what happens if you download and extract a fresh 7.6.2 (or a very old 6.x) portable zip to your desktop ? same ?
            does it do the same regardless if the portable release is x86 or x64 ?

            does it make a difference if you rename notepad++.exe to npp.exe and start it ?
            (if the cause is a policy filter by file name)

            and if you right click on both notepad++.exe’s and open properties > compatibility, is run as administrator checked and greyed out, or is it unchecked or checked ?
            (there’s also a button for a second compatibility settings page for all users, where you can check if runas administrator is activated)

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            • Alan KilbornA
              Alan Kilborn @Meta Chuh
              last edited by

              @Meta-Chuh

              what happens if you download and extract a fresh 7.6.2 (or a very old 6.x) portable zip to your desktop ?
              does it do the same regardless if the portable release is x86 or x64 ?
              does it make a difference if you rename notepad++.exe to npp.exe and start it ? (if the cause is a policy filter by file name)

              I tried all of those situations. In all of those cases “[Administrator]” always shows in the title bar of N++.

              and if you right click on both notepad++.exe’s and open properties > compatibility, is run as administrator checked and greyed out, or is it unchecked or checked ?

              Run as Administrator is greyed out and unchecked

              (there’s also a button for a second compatibility settings page for all users, where you can check if runas administrator is activated)

              Yes but a popup comes up when I press this button saying my activity will be logged if I continue on…sheesh. I didn’t continue.

              Thx for the ideas @Meta-Chuh …

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              • PeterJonesP
                PeterJones
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                @Alan-Kilborn ,

                If you try running cmd.exe from double-clicking the executable, does it prefix the title bar with “Administrator:”? I am wondering IT left your machine in a state where everything is running as administrator. (I know I had mine running always-as-admin a few years back, but I have forgotten how I did it or undid it – maybe someplace in the UAC settings)

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                • Alan KilbornA
                  Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
                  last edited by

                  @PeterJones said:

                  If you try running cmd.exe from double-clicking the executable, does it prefix the title bar with “Administrator:”?

                  It does NOT.

                  I am wondering IT left your machine in a state where everything is running as administrator

                  If this were true it would actually ease my current problem…drag-and-drop (into Notepad++) failures. :)

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                  • PeterJonesP
                    PeterJones
                    last edited by PeterJones

                    Have you checked your registry? this thread was trying to force it to open in Administrator mode, but if similar entries had the RUNASADMIN already, then maybe deleting those entries would work…

                    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
                    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
                    

                    You might also check whether one of your entries like HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\notepad++.exe or HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Applications\notepad++.exe has a runas verb as well as (or instead of) an open verb.

                    Maybe start searching the registry for notepad++.exe and/or runas – it will find some irrelevant ones, but might find you what you are looking for…

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                    • Meta ChuhM
                      Meta Chuh moderator @PeterJones
                      last edited by

                      @Alan-Kilborn

                      @PeterJones 's good ideas regarding cmd and runas also made me think:
                      what would happen if you start a cmd window and execute runas /trustlevel:0x20000 "Your_Path_To\notepad++.exe" ?

                      does np++ still show [Administrator] in the title bar and in the debug info ?

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                      • guy038G
                        guy038
                        last edited by guy038

                        Hi, @alan-kilborn, @meta-chuh, @peterjones, @eko-palypse,

                        Maybe what I’m about to say sounds silly, as I’m not a coder, ( yet! ), but why not look at the part of N++ code, responsible for the display of [Administrator] in the N++ title bar ?

                        Probably, this occurs, ONLY IF several, conditions are, simultaneously, true ! Then, you would have to verify if each of these individual conditions is checked or not, in Alan’s configuration ?!

                        Cheers,

                        guy038

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                        • Alan KilbornA
                          Alan Kilborn
                          last edited by

                          I looked in the registry but didn’t see any weirdness such as Peter suggested. Trying Meta Chuh’s runas command resulted in N++ running and still presenting “Administrator” in the title bar… :(

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                          • Alan KilbornA
                            Alan Kilborn @guy038
                            last edited by

                            @guy038 said:

                            why not look at the part of N++ code, responsible for the display of [Administrator] in the N++ title bar ?

                            Not an unreasonable suggestion at this point. :)

                            Here’s how the title bar gets set:

                            void Notepad_plus::setTitle()
                            {
                                if (_isAdministrator)
                                    result += TEXT(" [Administrator]");
                            

                            Which leads back to how _isAdministrator is determined:

                            Notepad_plus::Notepad_plus()
                            {
                                // Determine if user is administrator.
                                BOOL is_admin;
                                winVer ver = NppParameters::getInstance()->getWinVersion();
                                if (ver >= WV_VISTA || ver == WV_UNKNOWN)
                                {
                                    SID_IDENTIFIER_AUTHORITY NtAuthority = SECURITY_NT_AUTHORITY;
                                    PSID AdministratorsGroup;
                                    is_admin = AllocateAndInitializeSid(&NtAuthority, 2, SECURITY_BUILTIN_DOMAIN_RID, DOMAIN_ALIAS_RID_ADMINS, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &AdministratorsGroup);
                                    if (is_admin)
                                    {
                                        if (!CheckTokenMembership(NULL, AdministratorsGroup, &is_admin))
                                            is_admin = FALSE;
                                        FreeSid(AdministratorsGroup);
                                    }
                                }
                                else
                                    is_admin = false;
                            
                                _isAdministrator = is_admin ? true : false;
                            }
                            
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                            • Alan KilbornA
                              Alan Kilborn
                              last edited by

                              I suppose I will just “live with it”. It appears that however I.T. has my account set up, it isn’t going to play well anymore with Notepad++. Asking I.T. to “fix” what they’ve done would likely be counterproductive as I’d probably end up with a worse situation.

                              I remember when computers were engineering tools. I’m not sure what they are now, but I don’t think it is that. :(

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                              • andrecool-68A
                                andrecool-68
                                last edited by

                                How is it generally with a user account?
                                Here is an example of two programs on the same machine.

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                                • Meta ChuhM
                                  Meta Chuh moderator @Alan Kilborn
                                  last edited by Meta Chuh

                                  @Alan-Kilborn

                                  i think i found something i can reproduce:
                                  i’ve set up a windows 7 x64 bit test vm with a standard user.
                                  if i start notepad++ portable or installed, it loads as this default user.

                                  i’ve then entered the user settings and slided the user access control slider from default down to off (disable uac) and rebooted.

                                  tadaaaa: from now on i always see [Administrator] in the notepad++ top bar, even if it is not running as administrator.

                                  maybe it’s the same on your system ?
                                  maybe the it guy temporarily disabled uac because he was annoyed by it while he was setting up something, and he just forgot or didn’t bother to re-enable it again ?

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                                  • Meta ChuhM
                                    Meta Chuh moderator @andrecool-68
                                    last edited by

                                    @andrecool-68

                                    i think that administrator detection of newer versions of notepad++ relies on an active user access control.
                                    what happens if you re-enable uac and set it to default for a test, then reboot ?
                                    does it still say [administrator] in your portable 7.6.2 or is it gone then ?

                                    alt

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                                    • andrecool-68A
                                      andrecool-68
                                      last edited by

                                      True UAC is disabled!

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                                      • andrecool-68A
                                        andrecool-68
                                        last edited by

                                        Yesterday I reinstalled the 7x64 operating system, and turned it off myself.

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                                        • Alan KilbornA
                                          Alan Kilborn @Meta Chuh
                                          last edited by

                                          @Meta-Chuh

                                          Here’s how that screen looks for me:

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                                            andrecool-68
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