Notepad++ 7.8 Release

rinku singh · Oct 12, 2019, 4:40 PM

@dokutoku
https://gitlab.com/dokutoku/rdmd-for-npp/issues/3
how we can exit from console (dub ATL+D in your plugin )? it close the npp

Zsolt Kántor · Oct 12, 2019, 4:52 PM

When syntax highlight is enabled (e.g. C source code) and you check the global override Enable global bold font style box for keywords and some other characters will be less thicker. Is this normal? Here are the screenshots:

Just check the case keyword, dots, semicolons, equal signs and curly brackets

It happens with most of the font types, and as far only if syntax highlight is enabled. Is this normal?

Bilbo47 · Oct 12, 2019, 5:27 PM

“3. Add “No to all” and “Yes to all” options in Save dialog.”

Regression: The Yes/No/Cancel buttons used to have hotkeys so that single keystrokes could give a command on how to proceed. In 7.8, “Y” and “N” are ignored, while “Escape” still works. This is a showstopper for me; back to 7.7 for that basic usability feature. Also for standard usability, the new “All” buttons need to have their own hotkeys.

It appears the new “X to all” buttons are available only after the “Close All” command; in case of the “Close” command, they are greyed out. User interface principles say that buttons that are never available in certain circumstances should not even be visible in those circumstances. If “Close” and “Close All” are going to be two separate commands, then the corresponding dialog functionality/discoverability should also be different. If “X to all” is going to be not-available after “Close” then the “All” buttons should be not-visible after “Close”. Or, if “X to all” is going to be available after “Close” then “Close All” should not be a separate command. In short, the decision of all-versus-one should be made only once, or should be made available as often as possible. But showing that different functionality is available only if User backs up and starts over, that’s just maddening.

From experience, custom buttons can be added to the Windows-standard Common Dialogs instead of writing custom dialogs; it just takes some more subclassing and API work to do so.

dokutoku · Oct 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

@gurikbal-singh

how we can exit from console (dub ATL+D in your plugin)? it close the npp

I’m sorry, but I couldn’t interpret the meaning of your question correctly.

I think the problem you are referring to is more of a problem with the plugin itself.
Please post your detailed questions.

SinghRajenM · Oct 13, 2019, 1:03 PM

@donho a regression in 7.8 is explained https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/6211

Alan Kilborn · Oct 13, 2019, 1:03 PM

@SinghRajenM

Seems like that github issue stands on its own and doesn’t need to be called out here? Regressions happen; not the end of the world. :-)

SinghRajenM · Oct 13, 2019, 1:27 PM

@Alan-Kilborn 7.8 auto update yet not triggered. So it can be stopped at this moment before its wide spread via auto-update.

Alan Kilborn · Oct 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

@SinghRajenM

Again, not a huge problem. RC period is over. 7.8 is out. Let it go (IMO).

donho · Oct 13, 2019, 7:56 PM

@tomasz1986 @patrickdrd

I’ll make it optional in the future release.

donho · Oct 14, 2019, 1:48 AM

@Alan-Kilborn

It’s still a regression (and quite important) though. @SinghRajenM made a good point on it: the binaries contain regression should not be distributed via auto-updater.

@SinghRajenM

Thank you & well done.

Committed in:
https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/commit/c16f7bbc1e59e86b4d7650f63a10b8fe47fdaac0

@cybermcm

Fixed, will be in the next release.

Alan Kilborn · Oct 14, 2019, 12:14 PM

@donho said in Notepad++ 7.8 Release:

It’s still a regression (and quite important) though.
…the binaries contain regression should not be distributed via auto-updater.

Quite important…hmm…

Perhaps these days “auto updater” is a “bad idea” to have at all…

Alan Kilborn · Oct 14, 2019, 12:32 PM

@donho

I suppose everyone has features in mind that they consider important. How come you glossed over this one (apparently from Middle-Earth) that might be more important to a quantity of users than some obscure command-line parameter:

@Bilbo47 said in Notepad++ 7.8 Release:

“3. Add “No to all” and “Yes to all” options in Save dialog.”
Regression: The Yes/No/Cancel buttons used to have hotkeys so that single keystrokes could give a command on how to proceed. In 7.8, “Y” and “N” are ignored, while “Escape” still works. This is a showstopper for me; back to 7.7 for that basic usability feature. Also for standard usability, the new “All” buttons need to have their own hotkeys.

Zsolt Kántor · Oct 14, 2019, 8:39 PM

@donho
The global bold thing is a bug. Just check it yourself . . .

Ekopalypse · Oct 14, 2019, 9:09 PM

@Zsolt-Kántor

I was under the impression that you have to tick Bold from Font Style as well
if you want to enable the global bold font style.
Am I wrong?

Zsolt Kántor · Oct 14, 2019, 10:04 PM

@Ekopalypse said in Notepad++ 7.8 Release:

@Zsolt-Kántor

I was under the impression that you have to tick Bold from Font Style as well
if you want to enable the global bold font style.
Am I wrong?

That’s right. But the problem is different. If Bold and Enable global bold font style are not checked - this is the default setting, right?, some but not all characters and words are thicker, as bold would be selected, but actually bold is not selected. The first screenshot demonstrates this.

Just watch carefully the first screenshot, watch the case keyword, and the punctuation marks like dots, semicolons and commas.

Now keep watching those elements. Make sure the Bold box is checked and check the Enable global bold font style box. You will observe that those elements will be thinner. My question: why are they turning thinner (by the way they should turn thicker in the worst case - but that’s another problem) when the global Bold box is not checked?? IMHO if the global Bold box is not checked nothing should be changing visually if you toggle the Enable global bold font style box.

Zsolt Kántor · Oct 14, 2019, 10:41 PM

P.S. instead of: Make sure the Bold box is checked
my intention was to write: Make sure the Bold box is not checked

sorry!

PeterJones · Oct 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

@Zsolt-Kántor said in Notepad++ 7.8 Release:

My question: why are they turning thinner

Because you told it to. Those letters started bold (because that was the syntax highlighting for case statements), and you set it to override any bold settings with bold=false; so it did; case would normally be bold, so it turned bold off.

Ekopalypse · Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 AM

@Zsolt-Kántor

That’s right. But the problem is different.

Ah, ok, sorry for confusion, I guess @PeterJones said it right.

To summarize my understanding:
If both, Bold and Enable global bold font style are unchecked then
the styling settings from the language are used.

If both, Bold and Enable global bold font style are checked then
everything will be bold.

If Bold is unchecked but Enable global bold font style is checked then
everything will NOT be bold.

Zsolt Kántor · Oct 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

@PeterJones @Ekopalypse
Yes, both of you are right. Sorry for the misleading posts.
I checked and found that (at least with C) syntax highlight makes the keywords and other punctuation marks Bold by default.

TheBense · Oct 17, 2019, 8:02 PM

@donho said in Notepad++ 7.8 Release:

@tomasz1986 @patrickdrd

I’ll make it optional in the future release.

I just downgraded from 7.8 to 7.7.1 after reading this. When you do implement this option, please let me know so that I’ll know to update.