ASCII Box drawing characters forcing me to use alternative text editor
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Just a little more research on this side before we hear back from the OP…if we hear back:
I found that if I get a file encoded in OEM-US and it is displayed that way in the status bar:
Then I don’t seem to have a problem with “box characters”, as inserted from the ASCII Codes Insertion Panel in Notepad++.
Here’s a sample of what I’m seeing in a N++ tab:
Note: I wasn’t trying to draw a nice box! Too much effort! I just put some random “box” characters in my document.
Not sure if this info helps the OP in any way, as we are still “information insufficient” from him.
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Yesterday, when I had tried, I was having difficulty: I would try to pick OEM-US, but it would still show as UTF-8 on the status bar and in the encoding. But today, that problem isn’t occurring – I don’t know what I was doing wrong yesterday, but that’s not really important.
Anyway, the steps I had to take:
- create a new document
- change Encoding > Character Sets > Western European > OEM-US
- paste in boxdrawing characters
- save as
boxdrawing.nfo - save copy as
boxdrawing-nfo.txt - close those files
- open those files =>
boxdrawing.nfoproperly recognized as OEM-US. that extension defaults to that encoding, because NFO files are associated with boxdrawing from the ancient MSDOS eraboxdrawing-nfo.txtmight not be recognized (and may depend on settings for Preferences > New Document > Apply to Opened ANSI files and Preferences > MISC > Autodetect character encoding- if not recognized, you should be able to Encoding > Character Sets > Western European > OEM-US
And I did confirm that OEM-US codepoint 196
─is “ANSI” encoding codepoint 196Ä(where ANSI can be any of the windows 125x encodings, but most often Windows-1252) -
Sorry, forgot to make my main point, though I hinted at it: if you want to ensure your file is always interpreted as OEM-US, give it the NFO extension
.nfo. Alternately, if it’s already got a unique extension, add your user extension (without the dot) to Style Configurator > Dos Style > User Ext., and Notepad++ will always treat that extension as a “dos style” as well. If your file ends in.txt, I don’t recommend adding that to the user ext, and instead you may have to always manually pick OEM-USIf you’re going to be doing the conversion to OEM-US frequently, and you cannot automate it through extension-recognition, you might want to associate a keyboard shortcut to that entry: Settings > Shortcut Mapper > Main menu, in filter, type “OEM-US”, then Modify the shortcut to some keyboard combo that you can remember.
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Hello, @gregory-g, @alan-kilborn, @peterjones and All,
As you can see, from the answers of Peter and Alan, dealing with these drawing box characters is not very easy for many reasons :
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Generally, the installed fonts of your system cannot cover the old
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If you decide to use the
CP-437encoding (Encoding > Character Set > Western European > OEM-US), you can write ONLY with a set of256characters, shown in theCharacter Panel(Edit > Character Panel) -
And, if you decide to mix your box drawing characters with other normal characters, you’re likely meet some encoding problems, as @peterjones exposed ;-((
Fortunately, there a simple way to safely use these drawing box characters !
First, when I said that fonts do not cover the
OEM-USencoding, it’s not totally exact : among the main fonts available, theLucida consolefont can draw all these box drawing characters, as well as the old LineDraw font. If necessary, download theLucida Consolefont from this link :https://www.fontyukle.net/downloadfont/Lucida-Console
This font can display
644characters, listed at the end of this post, for informationOnce the
Lucida Console font(Lucida Console.ttf) is installed on your system :-
Start Notepad++,
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Open a new tab (
Ctrl + N) -
Run the
Encoding > Convert to UTF-8-BOMmenu option ( Not the simpleUTF-8-BOMoption ) -
Paste the text below, in this new tab
2554 2566 2557 250C 252C 2510 ╔═══════ 2550 ══════╦════════ 2550 ══════╗ ┌─────── 2500 ──────┬──────── 2500 ──────┐ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ 2551 2551 2551 2502 2502 2502 ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ 2560 ╠═══════ 2550 ══════╬════════ 2550 ══════╣ 2563 251C ├─────── 2500 ──────┼──────── 2500 ──────┤ 2524 ║ ║ 256C ║ │ │ 253C │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ 2551 2551 2551 2502 2502 2502 ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ╚═══════ 2550 ══════╩════════ 2550 ══════╝ └─────── 2500 ──────┴──────── 2500 ──────┘ 255A 2569 255D 2514 2534 2518 2553 2565 2556 2552 2564 2555 ╓─────── 2500 ──────╥──────── 2500 ──────╖ ╒═══════ 2550 ══════╤════════ 2550 ══════╕ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ 2551 2551 2551 2502 2502 2502 ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ 255F ╟─────── 2500 ──────╫──────── 2500 ──────╢ 2562 255E ╞═══════ 2550 ══════╪════════ 2550 ══════╡ 2561 ║ ║ 256B ║ │ │ 256A │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ 2551 2551 2551 2502 2502 2502 ║ ║ ║ │ │ │ ╙─────── 2500 ──────╨──────── 2500 ──────╜ ╘═══════ 2550 ══════╧════════ 2550 ══════╛ 2559 2568 255C 2558 2567 255B
Note that this text does not seem aligned. But, once pasted it in a N++ new tab, everything is correctly aligned ;-))
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Save this file as
Box_Drawing_chars.txt -
Now, when opening a new file, which is generally an
UTF-8encoded file, if you need to insert some box drawing chars :-
Open the true
UTF-8-BOMfileBox_Drawing_chars.txt, in the secondary view -
Select some of these line chars of file Box_Drawing_chars.txt
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Paste them in your current file, in the main N++ view
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Remark that I indicated the Unicode code-point of each of these chars. Thus, using the Microsoft input method
'ALT'+'+' numpad key+'four hexadecimal chars'you may insert any of these40box drawing characters. For instance :-
Hit the
ALTkey -
While holding down the
ALTkey, hit the+key of the numeric pad -
Still holding down the
ALTkey, hit, successively, the four keys2,5,6andAof the numeric pad -
Release the
ALTkey
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=> The box drawing char
╪should be inserted in current fileNote that it could be necessary, on older OS, as mine, to do a registry modification in order that this input method would be effective !
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So, you can insert any of these
40special chars, as well as the604classical characters, shown below ! -
When all is in place, simply save your UTF-8 file. Even, if your close and re-open the file or if you stop and re-start N++, no problem anymore, as long as you use the
Lucida Consolefont, from within N++ ;-))
Best Regards,
guy038
In the list, below, I shortened the name of the characters, in order to get a post not exceeding
16,300bytes about !Lucida Console
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LESS-THAN OR EQUAL TO 2265 ≥ GREATER-THAN OR EQUAL TO 2302 ⌂ HOUSE 2310 ⌐ REVERSED NOT SIGN 2320 ⌠ TOP HALF INTEGRAL 2321 ⌡ BOTTOM HALF INTEGRAL 2500 ─ BOX DRAWINGS 2502 │ BOX DRAWINGS 250C ┌ BOX DRAWINGS 2510 ┐ BOX DRAWINGS 2514 └ BOX DRAWINGS 2518 ┘ BOX DRAWINGS 251C ├ BOX DRAWINGS 2524 ┤ BOX DRAWINGS 252C ┬ BOX DRAWINGS 2534 ┴ BOX DRAWINGS 253C ┼ BOX DRAWINGS 2550 ═ BOX DRAWINGS 2551 ║ BOX DRAWINGS 2552 ╒ BOX DRAWINGS 2553 ╓ BOX DRAWINGS 2554 ╔ BOX DRAWINGS 2555 ╕ BOX DRAWINGS 2556 ╖ BOX DRAWINGS 2557 ╗ BOX DRAWINGS 2558 ╘ BOX DRAWINGS 2559 ╙ BOX DRAWINGS 255A ╚ BOX DRAWINGS 255B ╛ BOX DRAWINGS 255C ╜ BOX DRAWINGS 255D ╝ BOX DRAWINGS 255E ╞ BOX DRAWINGS 255F ╟ BOX DRAWINGS 2560 ╠ BOX DRAWINGS 2561 ╡ BOX DRAWINGS 2562 ╢ BOX DRAWINGS 2563 ╣ BOX DRAWINGS 2564 ╤ BOX DRAWINGS 2565 ╥ BOX DRAWINGS 2566 ╦ BOX DRAWINGS 2567 ╧ BOX DRAWINGS 2568 ╨ BOX DRAWINGS 2569 ╩ BOX DRAWINGS 256A ╪ BOX DRAWINGS 256B ╫ BOX DRAWINGS 256C ╬ BOX DRAWINGS 2580 ▀ UPPER HALF BLOCK 2584 ▄ LOWER HALF BLOCK 2588 █ FULL BLOCK 258C ▌ LEFT HALF BLOCK 2590 ▐ RIGHT HALF BLOCK 2591 ░ LIGHT SHADE 2592 ▒ MEDIUM SHADE 2593 ▓ DARK SHADE 25A0 ■ BLACK SQUARE 25AC ▬ BLACK RECTANGLE 25B2 ▲ BLACK UP-POINTING TRIANGLE 25BA ► BLACK RIGHT-POINTING POINTER 25BC ▼ BLACK DOWN-POINTING TRIANGLE 25C4 ◄ BLACK LEFT-POINTING POINTER 25CA ◊ LOZENGE 25CB ○ WHITE CIRCLE 25D8 ◘ INVERSE BULLET 25D9 ◙ INVERSE WHITE CIRCLE 263A ☺ WHITE SMILING FACE 263B ☻ BLACK SMILING FACE 263C ☼ WHITE SUN WITH RAYS 2640 ♀ FEMALE SIGN 2642 ♂ MALE SIGN 2660 ♠ BLACK SPADE SUIT 2663 ♣ BLACK CLUB SUIT 2665 ♥ BLACK HEART SUIT 2666 ♦ BLACK DIAMOND SUIT 266A ♪ EIGHTH NOTE 266B ♫ BEAMED EIGHTH NOTES FB01 fi LATIN SMALL LIGATURE FI FB02 fl LATIN SMALL LIGATURE FL -
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Hmm…
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когда нажимаю Alt+185 получается = when I type Alt + 185 turns out
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- &Кодировки->Кодировки->Кириллица->Windows-1251 Ctrl+F12
шрифт:
- &Кодировки->Кодировки->Кириллица->Windows-1251 Ctrl+F12
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@guy038 said in ASCII Box drawing characters forcing me to use alternative text editor:
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+1, for the box-drawing character diagrams alone! :-)
I think there is going to be “more to the story” of the OP’s workflow, than is workable by Guy’s description, if the OP ever feels responsive.
BTW, more good discussion along these “codepage 437” lines is found from 4 years ago.
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All,
I am not sure @TroshinDV’s point was. Windows-1251, which was what I think that user showed, is not the same as Windows-1252, which was mentioned earlier (as a character set that does not contain boxdrawing characters). And looking at Windows-1251 list of characters at Wikipedia, I don’t see any box-drawing characters there, either.
When one types characters that don’t exist in a given encoding, the results can vary, depending on circumstances. But with pure-8bit encodings like OEM-US (437) or Windows-1252 or Windows-1251, you can only encode 256 characters, so it cannot encode characters that aren’t in that character set – so once you’ve saved it, it is limited to those 256 bytes, and when it reloads, assuming it’s still recognized as the same encoding, all those bytes will be interpreted in the context of that encoding. Since the box drawing characters aren’t in 1251 or 1252, it’s not going to be effective to try to type them in a file encoded in 1251 or 1252, because there is no byte that 1251 or 1252 will interpret as a box-drawing character.
Back to the OP’s question: Based on my understanding of the OP’s description, there exists a file that already encodes box-drawing characters in an 8-bit encoding – and given his mention of “ASCII box drawing characters” and “PC DOS”, my best bet is that they are encoded in CP-437/OEM-US. Notepad++ doesn’t always auto-recognize this; as I said earlier: if you can change the extension, then using
.nfowill convince Notepad++ to default to the right encoding; if there is a unique extension for the file, you can add that as a user-extension in the “Dos style” Style Configurator entry, so that Notepad++ will treat that new extension as “Dos style” as well, and assume the right encoding; or, if it’s an extension like.txtthat cannot be guaranteed to always be box-drawing, then I recommend a keyboard shortcut mapped to the OEM-US menu selection, to make it easy. -
@PeterJones file from https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/62317 after save and reopen.
it looks like Windows operates on other characters when alt + a combination of numbers.
badly.
I would like to have symbols for drawing tables in 1251 … -
And I already wanted to write a script in javascript for a jN plugin that draws a table by pressing Alt + (arrows). :)
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скопировал текст из
https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/62316Very strange behavior. Bug?
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@guy038 @Alan-Kilborn @PETERJONES @TroshinDV
I know this is an old post. I want to thank you all for explaining why it happens.My situation is a bit rare. I’m using a slightly modified telnet client to access a database engine. This client was designed in the Windows-XP era and the developers seemed to do as little as possible to it to keep it functional as the OS progressed.
It is a x86 distribution, they distribute their own Windows font with it, and they use ascii line drawing symbols to represent on screen forms.
See examples below. The example is not a good one, because some of the developer portions of the interface use many more box segments.
New document -> Convert to UTF-8-BOM and even selecting the vendor supplied font does not produce the line drawings.
I understand this is probably a case of new vs old. Or perhaps if I uninstall the 64 bit version and hunt down a 32 bit version that would work?
A screen snip from the client program:
Pasting into [cough] NoteTab Pro
Pasting into Notepad++
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If I type those characters in an OEM-US (the boxdrawing code page), Notepad++ does just fine with them. If I copy/paste from the OEM-US tab to a UTF-8-BOM tab, they still look right.
┌───────────┐ │ │ ├─────┬─────┤ │ │ │ ├─────┼─────┤ │ │ │ ├─────┴─────┤ │ │ └───────────┘Looking at the bytes in my files after saving:
C:\usr\local\apps\npp\npp.8.2.2-RC1.portable.x64>xxd oem-us.txt 00000000: dac4 c4c4 c4c4 c4c4 c4c4 c4c4 bf0d 0ab3 ................ 00000010: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 20b3 0d0a c3c4 ..... 00000020: c4c4 c4c4 c2c4 c4c4 c4c4 b40d 0ab3 2020 .............. 00000030: 2020 20b3 2020 2020 20b3 0d0a c3c4 c4c4 . ....... 00000040: c4c4 c5c4 c4c4 c4c4 b40d 0ab3 2020 2020 ............ 00000050: 20b3 2020 2020 20b3 0d0a c3c4 c4c4 c4c4 . ......... 00000060: c1c4 c4c4 c4c4 b40d 0ab3 2020 2020 2020 .......... 00000070: 2020 2020 20b3 0d0a c0c4 c4c4 c4c4 c4c4 ........... 00000080: c4c4 c4c4 d90d 0a ....... C:\usr\local\apps\npp\npp.8.2.2-RC1.portable.x64>xxd utf8bom.txt 00000000: efbb bfe2 948c e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 ................ 00000010: 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 ................ 00000020: 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9490 0d0a e294 8220 ............... 00000030: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 e294 820d 0ae2 ...... 00000040: 949c e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 ................ 00000050: 80e2 94ac e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 ................ 00000060: e294 80e2 94a4 0d0a e294 8220 2020 2020 ........... 00000070: e294 8220 2020 2020 e294 820d 0ae2 949c ... ........ 00000080: e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 ................ 00000090: 94bc e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 ................ 000000a0: 80e2 94a4 0d0a e294 8220 2020 2020 e294 ......... .. 000000b0: 8220 2020 2020 e294 820d 0ae2 949c e294 . .......... 000000c0: 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 94b4 ................ 000000d0: e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 ................ 000000e0: 94a4 0d0a e294 8220 2020 2020 2020 2020 ....... 000000f0: 2020 e294 820d 0ae2 9494 e294 80e2 9480 .............. 00000100: e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 ................ 00000110: 9480 e294 80e2 9480 e294 80e2 9498 0d0a ................So, given the characters you are showing from your copy paste into Notepad++, I think what you need to do is to is to
- New file
- Set to Encoding > Character Set > Western > OEM-US
- Paste boxdrawing clipboard into the file
- Save
- Encoding > Convert to UTF-8-BOM
- Save
When I followed those steps exactly, I got the same thing in the final file as I showed in my utf8bom.txt above.
Addendum: Alternately, if your new file is set to Language > MSDOS style, it will automatically choose OEM-US, and it will want to save as xxx.nfo, and the bytes will be the same as before. But once you convert to UTF-8-BOM, you should save with a different extension, so that Notepad++ will stop trying to coerce it into boxdrawing MSDOS-style.
Edit: I had incorrectly called OEM-US character set something else originally; I went back and fixed it all.
Addendum 2: All this is basically a repeat of what I said a year ago. Apparently, I am not capable of explaining such things in a way you understand. Sorry. But now I’m worried you will again not understand.
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Well, catch me running down the the street shouting “give me a towel”
Or… Eureka.
I just realize I was adjusting the wrong setting for font.
I was working with global override when I should have modified Default Style
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@gregory-g Happy Birthday, post about ASCII Box drawing!
