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    mostlyhuman
    last edited by Aug 13, 2021, 3:39 PM

    If I shift select several consecutive files alphabetically in Windows Explorer and then right-click and choose “Edit with Notepad++” from the context menu, once they are open in Notepad++ the tabs are not in the same alphabetical order they were selected. Is this intentional, and is there a way to alter this behavior? Thank you for any help!

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      PeterJones @mostlyhuman
      last edited by Aug 13, 2021, 4:18 PM

      @Clay-Hammons said in Tabs do not open in order selected in Windows Explorer:

      select several consecutive files alphabetically in Windows Explorer

      When Windows Explorer sends the commands to Notepad++ to open the files, it doesn’t necessarily do it in the order that you select in Explorer. That’s a Windows “feature”. Often, if I select “1 2 3”, I see it open in the order “3 1 2”. (Though in my experiments today, it’s keeping the order for me – no, wait, if i rename “1” to “5” and then try to open “2 3 5” it still opens in order “5 2 3”… I wonder if it’s internally sorted by date/timestamp…)

      Anyway, that’s a “feature” of Windows, and there’s nothing they can change in Notepad++ to “fix” it.

      You can search the forum for “sort tabs” or similar for discussions on how to change the order of tabs in Notepad++ after the files are opened.

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        artie-finkelstein
        last edited by Aug 14, 2021, 12:52 AM

        As @PeterJones said it’s an Explorer feature. It appears Explorer starts the list where the cursor is when right clicking to start an action on a marked area of selected files and then wraps around to the beginning to complete the list.

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          Alan Kilborn @artie-finkelstein
          last edited by Aug 14, 2021, 11:06 AM

          @artie-finkelstein said in Tabs do not open in order selected in Windows Explorer:

          It appears Explorer starts the list where the cursor is when right clicking to start an action on a marked area of selected files and then wraps around to the beginning to complete the list.

          Can you explain that a bit more?
          I can’t get my head around that explanation. :-)

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            artie-finkelstein @Alan Kilborn
            last edited by Aug 14, 2021, 3:26 PM

            @Alan-Kilborn
            I’ll try. Given the following list of path names:

            C:\Notepad++\functionList\batch.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\c.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cobol.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cobol-free.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cpp.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cs.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\fortran.xml
            

            If I select the list as shown, by marking from bottom to top and leave the cursor on the top entry (batch.xml) and drag the selection onto an Npp session, the files will be opened in alphabetical order. However, if I drag the same selection but this time start with the cursor on cs.xml, the list Npp (or any other application) receives is actually:

            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cs.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\fortran.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\batch.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\c.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cobol.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cobol-free.xml
            C:\Notepad++\functionList\cpp.xml
            

            so the tabs are opened as received, but not in the strict alphabetical order of the marked area. Note: I used an alphabetically sorted list to make it easier for me (it’s my modus operandi), Explorer uses the sort order of the source folder (date, size, etc.). But, Explorer starts with the pathname under the cursor first, iterates to the end of the marked block, and then jumps to the start of the block to complete the list of paths to be passed to the application.

            BTW: It’s not UI feature I like, but there seem to be many ways the kids in Redmond tried to make life in Windows too friendly and missed the target.

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              Alan Kilborn @artie-finkelstein
              last edited by Aug 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

              @artie-finkelstein

              Ah, interesting.
              Thanks for the explanation.
              I didn’t try it, but I’ll take you at your word.

              I’ve often wondered where multiple files operations like this obtain their sometimes-odd order; now I have a better idea.

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                MarkusBodensee
                last edited by Aug 15, 2021, 9:19 AM

                @artie-finkelstein is absolutely right here, wanted to reply the same like he.

                In short:
                Do the right click on the first file you want to have in the Editor. The following files are added one by one like they appear in your explorer window (sorting by name or date etc is respected). At the end of list wraps around to the begin and continues until the right clicked file is reached.

                Same for drag and drop. Start dragging with focus on the first file you want in the editor.

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                  Alan Kilborn @MarkusBodensee
                  last edited by Aug 15, 2021, 12:21 PM

                  @MarkusBodensee

                  Not following what you mean about “right click”, i.e., your first paragraph. In Explorer, experimenting, I can’t get any kind of multi-file selection with right-clicking. Of course, I can get it with left-click with Shift or Ctrl added.

                  Your second paragraph is a concise summation of @artie-finkelstein 's longer explanation, but adds no new information.

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                    artie-finkelstein
                    last edited by Aug 15, 2021, 11:02 PM

                    Left click to select items for the group
                    Right click or left click before dragging the group

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                      Alan Kilborn @artie-finkelstein
                      last edited by Aug 16, 2021, 12:00 PM

                      @artie-finkelstein said in Tabs do not open in order selected in Windows Explorer:

                      Right click or left click before dragging the group

                      Ah, okay, although I’ve never thought to right-click and drag-n-drop a file(s) into another application.

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                        Stefan Pendl
                        last edited by Aug 16, 2021, 5:31 PM

                        I think that right-clicking would be used to select “Edit with Notepad++” from the context menu.

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                          Alan Kilborn @Stefan Pendl
                          last edited by Aug 16, 2021, 6:10 PM

                          @Stefan-Pendl said in Tabs do not open in order selected in Windows Explorer:

                          I think that right-clicking would be used to select “Edit with Notepad++” from the context menu.

                          When I try this with a.txt, b.txt, c.txt … h.txt in a folder and I select them one at a time, in order from a to h via Ctrl+Lclick, and then I right-click c.txt and choose Edit with Notepad++, I get, from left to right tabs in N++ once it loads them:

                          d, e, c, f, b, h, g and a.

                          I fail to see a pattern there.

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                            artie-finkelstein @Alan Kilborn
                            last edited by Aug 17, 2021, 6:29 PM

                            @Alan-Kilborn
                            I’d never tried it that way. I Ctrl Left clicked a series of files (every other one) and then Right clicked and selected ‘Edit with Notepad++’ and it still followed the scheme I tried to describe in 68868, but, I didn’t properly amplify one detail then: The file list order is based on the Explorer sort order of the folder, not the order the files are clicked in. BTW: changing sort order will unselect any left clicked files.

                            There may also be OS differences (I’ve not had a chance to use any of the Win10 variants).

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                              Alan Kilborn
                              last edited by Aug 17, 2021, 6:45 PM

                              We are probably wandering off-topic here, but it is a bit interesting.

                              So for great fun I took this selection in Explorer and dragged it by the e.txt file into Notepad++ and also Visual Studio 2019:

                              88535615-aad5-4886-82c5-11772dccee5e-image.png

                              The results:

                              4bc34545-e400-4d44-a8e5-d3dcd4c87892-image.png

                              315df7cb-2597-4639-a9b5-89f74a12fffc-image.png

                              Entirely opposite tab orders. :-)

                              And, from an intuitive point of view, since the drag point was e.txt, I’d have thought that would be made the active file tab – but it wasn’t in either program.

                              OK, maybe I’m done with this now. :-)

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                                MarkusBodensee @MarkusBodensee
                                last edited by Aug 17, 2021, 8:58 PM

                                @Alan-Kilborn said in Tabs do not open in order selected in Windows Explorer:

                                Not following what you mean about “right click”, i.e., your first paragraph. In Explorer, experimenting, I can’t get any kind of multi-file selection with right-clicking. Of course, I can get it with left-click with Shift or Ctrl added.

                                Sorry, that I was not clear enough. The precondition to my previous post is, that you have already selected multiple files in any way you like (Ctrl + Left Click, Shift + Left Click, or even with mouse selection rectangle). The important thing is: the focus in next step. I.e. on which file you do the right click or start the drag action.

                                @MarkusBodensee said in Tabs do not open in order selected in Windows Explorer:

                                Do the right click on the first file you want to have in the Editor. The following files are added one by one like they appear in your explorer window (sorting by name or date etc is respected). At the end of list wraps around to the begin and continues until the right clicked file is reached.

                                Same for drag and drop. Start dragging with focus on the first file you want in the editor.

                                In your recent post, you verified what I posted for Notepad++, thanks :-)

                                For the situation in your post before your recent post, where you failed to see a pattern: I don’t know what went wrong there.
                                When I am doing your steps (and order by name in explorer is active), I get the following order in Notepad++: c, d, e, f, g, h, a, b

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                                  MarkusBodensee
                                  last edited by Aug 17, 2021, 9:08 PM

                                  Example with picture:
                                  Select some files, order of selection doesn’t matter, but right click is done on cs.xml:
                                  bc85457f-bc2b-4e3b-b6d2-f9951276ec6e-grafik.png

                                  Order in Notepad++:
                                  933db1ba-d23c-4756-9f76-2b34c11156a2-grafik.png

                                  Hope it helps somebody to understand, even if it is nearly the same like your example. Yes, it adds no new information… but hopefully more clarity.

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