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    • PeterJonesP
      PeterJones @cmeriaux
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      Three overlapping replies. That might be a record. ;-)

      —

      Since the primary question has been sufficiently answered, I don’t feel bad hijacking the thread:

      @cmeriaux said in PythonScript:

      the user script path is kind of obsolete with latest Npp workflow,

      Why do you say that?

      From the way I understood it, “system” vs “user” was originally intended to allow some scripts on a given PC that were available to all users (like if my wife and I wanted to use scripts X and Y when logged in as our separate accounts), but some scripts that are unique to a given user (like I also want Z available, but she wants W available, and neither of us want to see the unique-to-spouse’s scripts). I don’t see what about the current workflow would obsolete that.

      Or, for a less spousal example, maybe a workplace IT department wants to install Notepad++ with scripts that every user should use, but no user should have permission to modify (in the system-scripts area, it’s in the UAC-protected Program Files hierarchy; this could be used for protected business processes where auditors would complain if it wasn’t done the same way for every worker), but allow the individual workers to create their own scripts to automate tasks specific to their job functions.

      IMO, both of those are good reasons for still maintaining two separate script locations.

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      • cmeriauxC
        cmeriaux @PeterJones
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        @peterjones said in PythonScript:

        Why do you say that?

        I think (but I may be wrong) notepad++ doesn’t install any plugins in AppData\Roaming\Notepad++\plugins anymore. So those folder must be created manually.

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        • PeterJonesP
          PeterJones @cmeriaux
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          @cmeriaux said in PythonScript:

          I think (but I may be wrong) notepad++ doesn’t install any plugins in AppData\Roaming\Notepad++\plugins anymore. So those folder must be created manually.

          It doesn’t install any plugins in that folder. But %AppData%\Notepad++\plugins\Config\ is still where plugins configuration files go… And for PythonScript, %AppData%\Notepad++\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\ is still the location for user scripts, and even if %AppData%\Notepad++\plugins\Config\PythonScript\ doesn’t exist yet.

          On my machine where I normally don’t use the AppData (so I don’t have a Notepad++ in the %AppData% hierarchy), I just unzipped a fresh portable, then removed doLocalConf.xml, so that the portable will use %AppData%. I installed PythonScript, and ran Plugins > Python Script > New Script: it defaulted to %AppData%\Notepad++\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\ … and it did create that folder for me when I saved the new script. (And portable without doLocalConf.xml is the same as a normal installation, as far as using the AppData folder is concerned.)

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          • Heinz Berecz 0H
            Heinz Berecz 0 @cmeriaux
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            @cmeriaux said in PythonScript:

            you have to select a script (in user scripts or machine scripts), then the add button become available

            I cannot select a script (in user scripts or machine scripts), because both fields are empty

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            • Heinz Berecz 0H
              Heinz Berecz 0 @Ekopalypse
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              @ekopalypse said in PythonScript:

              To assign a shortcut, the script must be available in this yellow highlighted area.

              On my PC no scripts are available in this yellow highlighted area nor in the user scripts or machine scripts area.

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              • PeterJonesP
                PeterJones @Heinz Berecz 0
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                @heinz-berecz-0 said in PythonScript:

                On my PC no scripts are available in this yellow highlighted area nor in the user scripts or machine scripts area.

                The user-scripts area will be empty if you haven’t created any user scripts, so that’s natural. But the machine scripts will only be empty if you had a bad installation of PythonScript, or if you intentionally deleted all the example scripts. But if you can see the sample scripts in the Plugins > Python Script > Scripts > Samples submenu, then they weren’t deleted.

                Since sometimes animation helps users see something that simple screenshots do not:

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                • Heinz Berecz 0H
                  Heinz Berecz 0 @PeterJones
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                  @peterjones said in PythonScript:

                  The user-scripts area will be empty if you haven’t created any user scripts, so that’s natural. But the machine scripts will only be empty if you had a bad installation of PythonScript, or if you intentionally deleted all the example scripts. But if you can see the sample scripts in the Plugins > Python Script > Scripts > Samples submenu, then they weren’t deleted.

                  How can I uninstall a bad installation of PythonScript?

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                  • EkopalypseE
                    Ekopalypse @Heinz Berecz 0
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                    @heinz-berecz-0

                    How did you install it in the first place?
                    If you used the msi package, remove it via the Windows function for removing programmes. Otherwise, do it via the plugin admin of Npp.

                    a9824664-58eb-4043-a3ad-4015180b1932-image.png

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                    • Heinz Berecz 0H
                      Heinz Berecz 0 @Ekopalypse
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                      @ekopalypse Thank you, now it works. But a new Script (\plugins\PythonScript\scripts\aa.py) appears in the machine scripts area, not in the user scripts area.

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                      • EkopalypseE
                        Ekopalypse @Heinz Berecz 0
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                        @heinz-berecz-0

                        How did you create this new script?
                        Via the plugin menu new script?
                        If so, an save dialog should have opened asking you to save the file. Where did it point to?

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                        • Heinz Berecz 0H
                          Heinz Berecz 0 @Ekopalypse
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                          @ekopalypse Via the plugin menu new script. The save dialog pointed to D:\N++\plugins\PythonScript\scripts\

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                          • EkopalypseE
                            Ekopalypse @Heinz Berecz 0
                            last edited by Ekopalypse

                            @heinz-berecz-0

                            hmmm … strange, it should point to D:\N++\plugins\config\PythonScript\scripts instead.
                            Could be related to Explorer caching, but not quite sure.

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                            • Heinz Berecz 0H
                              Heinz Berecz 0 @Ekopalypse
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                              @ekopalypse Thank you. I copied my script to D:\N++\plugins\config\PythonScript\scripts, now it works.

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                              • Alan KilbornA
                                Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
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                                @ekopalypse said in PythonScript:

                                hmmm … strange, it should point to D:\N++\plugins\config\PythonScript\scripts instead.
                                Could be related to Explorer caching, but not quite sure.

                                I often prove out scripts I’m about to post by using a “clean” portable N++/PS setup. It makes me crazy that this new setup somehow knows my daily-use directory structure and defaults to this when I am trying to create/save a script. I often make the mistake of saving in my daily-use hierarchy, something I definitely don’t want to be doing.

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                                • Heinz Berecz 0H
                                  Heinz Berecz 0 @Ekopalypse
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                                  @ekopalypse You have PythonScript Version 3.0.7, my Version is after newly installing the PythonScript plugin 1.5.4

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                                  • Alan KilbornA
                                    Alan Kilborn @Heinz Berecz 0
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                                    @heinz-berecz-0 said in PythonScript:

                                    You have PythonScript Version 3.0.7, my Version is after newly installing the PythonScript plugin 1.5.4

                                    3.x is a pre-release version, if you want it you have to do special things to install it (go to the PS website and manually get it and manually install it).

                                    Installing via Plugins Admin will get you 1.5.4.

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                                    • PeterJonesP
                                      PeterJones @Heinz Berecz 0
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                                      @heinz-berecz-0 said in PythonScript:

                                      @ekopalypse You have PythonScript Version 3.0.7, my Version is after newly installing the PythonScript plugin 1.5.4

                                      Eko’s example may be that way. But the animation I showed was using PythonScript version 1.5.4, and it worked the way I intended.

                                      I think why you (and Alan) have problems with Windows remembering the “wrong” scripts directory is because (if I understand correctly), some of Windows’ “memory” in the registry for last-opened-folder in the FileOpen or similar windows is based on the name of the application (so in this case notepad++.exe), rather than on the full path to the application (c:\program files\notepad++\notepad++.exe vs x:\some\portable\path\notepad++.exe for a portable), so Windows may only keep one recently-opened-folder setting for both notepad++.exe. (But that’s a piecemeal memory, nothing with hard data to support that conclusion.) Any time you bring Windows OS into the mix, a new level of confusion arises. ;-)

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                                      • Alan KilbornA
                                        Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
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                                        @peterjones said in PythonScript:

                                        I think why you (and Alan) have problems with Windows remembering the “wrong” scripts directory is because…

                                        OK… but I’d think that the PythonScript plugin itself should always open its ...\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\ folder as a default, at least from the very first opening.

                                        Don’t turn this over to Windows, if that’s truly what is happening.

                                        Again, IMO.

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                                        • Heinz Berecz 0H
                                          Heinz Berecz 0 @Ekopalypse
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                                          @ekopalypse said in PythonScript:

                                          hmmm … strange, it should point to D:\N++\plugins\config\PythonScript\scripts instead.
                                          Could be related to Explorer caching, but not quite sure.

                                          The PythonScript plugin always open its …\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\ folder as a default,
                                          if Settings>Preferences>Default Directory>Default Open/Save Directory> is set to …\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\

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                                          • Alan KilbornA
                                            Alan Kilborn @Heinz Berecz 0
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                                            @heinz-berecz-0 said in PythonScript:

                                            The PythonScript plugin always open its …\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\ folder as a default,
                                            if Settings>Preferences>Default Directory>Default Open/Save Directory> is set to …\plugins\Config\PythonScript\scripts\

                                            True enough, but only people that write exclusively PythonScripts would want that setting set that way. Not useful to do this, generally.

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