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    • Alan KilbornA
      Alan Kilborn @TBugReporter
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      @TBugReporter said in Where’s the “New Window” command?:

      I’ve found a peculiar behavior using this. To reproduce:

      Invoke this command to create a new window.
      In the new window, use the Recent Files list to open a few files.
      Close the second window.
      Invoke the command again from the first window.
      Inspect the Recent Files list from this third window.

      Result: The files you opened in the second window are missing from the Recent Files list of the third (and subsequent) window(s). To get a full Recent Files list, I have to close the other window(s), close the first window, restart N++, and invoke New Window again.

      Something to remember when using multiple instances is that they don’t communicate well with each other. Another example is if you go into the Preferences and make a change, only that instance will know about the change. And, unless the instance where you made the change is exited last of all the instances, the change won’t be there when you run Notepad++ again. The reason for this is rather simple: When an instance of N++ exits, it writes its settings to disk. If another instance is still running, again, when it exits, it writes its settings to disk. If the settings happen to be different, the settings for the last one to write are preserved for the next clean run of the program.

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      • EkopalypseE
        Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
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        @TBugReporter

        I never want to become that horrible programmer who blindly copies from other programs without taking the time to understand what the code is doing.

        Very commendable!

        … is much easier for me to wrap my head around.

        This is pretty basic Windows programming stuff, I’d say, but if you’re new to Windows programming, then let me briefly explain how this usually works.

        Whenever you want to interact with a GUI application in Windows, you need its ID, the HWND that is the handle of a window. You can get this by using user32.dll functions such as FindWindow and FindWindowEx.
        To communicate with the window, use functions like SendMessage.
        For example, TCM_GETITEMCOUNT is a message sent to a SysTabControl32 to query the number of available tabs.

        BGM_GETROWS is defined by Notepad++ itself.

        SetForegroundWindow is used to ensure that the following simulated keystrokes (keybd_event) are sent to the application they are intended for.

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        • Alan KilbornA
          Alan Kilborn @TBugReporter
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          @TBugReporter said in Where’s the “New Window” command?:

          I don’t know if it’s differences in programming style, or just the fact that your (Eko) script is doing all the heavy lifting, but @Alan-Kilborn’s is much easier for me to wrap my head around.

          This is totally because Eko’s script IS doing the “heavy lifting”. My script is simple in comparison.

          When you see ctypes in a Python program, expect “heavy lifting”, “magic”, and “pixie dust” to be on display. :-)

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          • EkopalypseE
            Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
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            @Alan-Kilborn said in Where’s the “New Window” command?:

            When you see ctypes in a Python program, expect “heavy lifting”, “magic”, and “pixie dust” to be on display. :-)

            :-D and it works only during full moon and when you dance around a fire :-D

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            • TBugReporterT
              TBugReporter @Ekopalypse
              last edited by TBugReporter

              I’m dancing as fast as I can (meaning “as my spare time allows”), but I’ve hit a snag. I want my script’s output to read the name of the tab where a given shortcut was found, but the descriptions I’ve found of how to do this for other languages either assume the existence of library functions in that language which I can’t find source code to, or else they dive headfirst into deep voodoo without a life jacket. :-}

              I’m guessing I have to do something like

              user32.SendMessageW(sys_tab_hwnd, TCM_GETITEMCOUNT, 0, 0)
              

              but send a different message, and figure out how to read the response. Any chance one of you could point me in a less random direction?

              Also, given that this thread has drifted so far away from the original topic, is there any way I can change its title?

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              • EkopalypseE
                Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                last edited by

                @TBugReporter

                I can take a look today after work (in 6-7 hours).

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                • guy038G
                  guy038
                  last edited by guy038

                  Hello, @tbugreporter ,

                  Regarding specifically the title changes, which title would you like to see ? As a moderator, I can modify it easily !

                  BR

                  guy038

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                  • EkopalypseE
                    Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                    last edited by

                    @TBugReporter

                    Found the time to try it out during my lunch break.

                    TCM_GETITEMW = (TCM_FIRST + 60)  # get the current tab message
                    TCIF_TEXT = 1  # flag to specify that we are only interested in pszText
                    
                    # define the storage that will contain the requested information.
                    class TCITEM(ctypes.Structure):
                        _fields_ = [('mask',        wintypes.UINT),
                                    ('dwState',     wintypes.DWORD),
                                    ('dwStateMask', wintypes.DWORD),
                                    ('pszText',     wintypes.LPWSTR),
                                    ('cchTextMax',  wintypes.INT),
                                    ('iImage',      wintypes.INT),
                                    ('lParam',      wintypes.LPARAM)]
                    
                    
                    pszText = ctypes.create_unicode_buffer(260)  # create a buffer to hold the tab text
                    tcitem = TCITEM()  # create an instance
                    tcitem.mask = TCIF_TEXT  # specify that we want to read the pszText field
                    tcitem.pszText = addressof(pszText)  # points to the tab text buffer 
                    tcitem.cchTextMax = len(pszText)  # length of buffer
                    pITEM = byref(tcitem)  # pointer to the concrete struct TCITEM 
                    
                    # within the for loop call
                    found = user32.SendMessageW(sys_tab_hwnd, TCM_GETITEMW, tab, pITEM)
                    if found:
                    	print(tcitem.pszText)
                    

                    Seems to work, let me know if anything is unclear.

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                    • TBugReporterT
                      TBugReporter @guy038
                      last edited by

                      @guy038:

                      which title would you like to see ?

                      How about

                      Finding available shortcut keys (originally "Where's the 'New Window' command?")
                      

                      As a moderator, I can modify it easily !

                      TYVM!

                      @Ekopalypse:

                      Seems to work, let me know if anything is unclear.

                      Yes, that looks like the info I needed; now I just have to add it to the script.

                      TYVM to you too!

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                      • TBugReporterT
                        TBugReporter @Ekopalypse
                        last edited by

                        @Ekopalypse

                        My latest sticking point:

                        NameError: global name 'byref' is not defined
                        
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                        • rdipardoR
                          rdipardo @TBugReporter
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                          NameError: global name 'byref' is not defined
                          

                          Try ctypes.byref instead.

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                          • TBugReporterT
                            TBugReporter
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                            Here’s a question from the “newless cluebie to Python” department:

                            I’m currently struggling with errors like

                            NameError: global name 'my_new_variable' is not defined
                            

                            I read that there’s a “global” statement that can help, but it doesn’t seem to work for me. Exactly where should this go? Or, is there another way I can rearrange the code that will avoid this?

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                            • EkopalypseE
                              Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                              last edited by

                              @TBugReporter

                              In the function in which it is used, suppose there is a code like this

                              x = 42
                              y = {'x': 42}
                              
                              def main():
                                  global x
                                  x += 1
                                  y['x'] += 1
                                  print(x)
                                  print(y)
                                  
                              main()
                              

                              x needs to be defined as global, while it is not necessary for y, because it is a dict.

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                              • TBugReporterT
                                TBugReporter
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                                The pest is back! 😁 (I thank you in advance for your patience with me.)

                                • Can I use PythonScript to display a Windows MessageBox? Can I create my own custom dialogs in Windows style?

                                • How can I prematurely end my script (if something weird happens)? I found sys.exit(), but this apparently terminates all of Notepad++ along with the script.

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                                • PeterJonesP
                                  PeterJones @TBugReporter
                                  last edited by PeterJones

                                  @TBugReporter said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                  • Can I use PythonScript to display a Windows MessageBox?

                                  Yes. 😉1

                                  Can I create my own custom dialogs in Windows style?

                                  Not easily. 😉2

                                  • How can I prematurely end my script (if something weird happens)? I found sys.exit(), but this apparently terminates all of Notepad++ along with the script.

                                  The best way I’ve found is to have a bunch of “if” processing so that it keeps on dumping out without running any of your code

                                  ----

                                  WinkNotes: 😉3

                                  😉1: notepad.messageBox()

                                  😉2: Alan tends to get around this by doing a bunch of free-form editor.input() notepad.prompt() calls, and then processing the text that the user types in to make the decisions. In theory, since PythonScript comes with the libraries necessary to access any of the win32 API functions: see plenty of examples in the forum with accessing SendMessage; searching the forum on the SendMessage from win32 API, and narrowing it down to @Ekopalypse’s posts, will get you some good examples pretty quickly – you would then have to extrapolate from that on how to access the various win32 API functions you want. But that said, I don’t know how practical it is to build a whole window using raw API calls – normally when programming win32 API, you would use resource files or equivalents, but I have no clue if you can define a resource file and easily give access to that resource file to the Python interpreter in PythonScript. (If you figure out a way, let me know, because I want to use that to reduce my library requirements in PerlScript some day.)

                                  😉3: wink notes are similar to footnotes, but made more annoying because I hid my actual answer inside the footnotes rather than in the main flow of the conversation

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                                  • TBugReporterT
                                    TBugReporter @PeterJones
                                    last edited by TBugReporter

                                    @PeterJones said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                    The best way I’ve found is to have a bunch of “if” processing

                                    If I have to resort to something like that, I’d use

                                    while True:
                                        pass
                                    

                                    instead. (Still an evil hack, but it seems slightly more elegant.)

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                                    • EkopalypseE
                                      Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                                      last edited by Ekopalypse

                                      @TBugReporter

                                      With ctypes you have access to the Windows Api and can therefore do everything it offers. E.g. create a TaskDialog.

                                      39a6b14b-f03f-41a6-aca0-71952d2acaeb-image.png

                                      You can also build your own dialogs with the included Tkinter module, see for example the Formatter.py script from the demo directory.

                                      As for sys.exit, I found out that calling a “main” function and returning from that function serve the same purpose.

                                      def main():
                                          if x != 0:
                                              return
                                      
                                      main()
                                      
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                                      • PeterJonesP
                                        PeterJones @PeterJones
                                        last edited by PeterJones

                                        @PeterJones said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                        free-form editor.input() calls

                                        It was pointed out to me that it should have said notepad.prompt() . sorry for the confusion. I have updated the original post to not confuse future readers.

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                                        • Alan KilbornA
                                          Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
                                          last edited by Alan Kilborn

                                          @Ekopalypse said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                          You can also build your own dialogs with the included Tkinter module

                                          For me, this approach is just “too much” as in “complication” but to each his own. Maybe I’ve just never liked Tkinter in general.

                                          I don’t know, I’ve felt that the “mini UIs” I’ve been able to create with the notepad.prompt() window are lightweight and workable… A classic example would be in this THREAD; see the script in the Dec 16, 2017, 11:03 PM posting.

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                                          • PeterJonesP
                                            PeterJones @Ekopalypse
                                            last edited by

                                            @Ekopalypse ,

                                            Was your screenshot created with the Tkinter library, or with raw calls to the TaskDialog? If with raw calls, could you share the code (as a gist if it’s too long to fit nicely in the forum)?

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