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    • EkopalypseE
      Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
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      I never want to become that horrible programmer who blindly copies from other programs without taking the time to understand what the code is doing.

      Very commendable!

      … is much easier for me to wrap my head around.

      This is pretty basic Windows programming stuff, I’d say, but if you’re new to Windows programming, then let me briefly explain how this usually works.

      Whenever you want to interact with a GUI application in Windows, you need its ID, the HWND that is the handle of a window. You can get this by using user32.dll functions such as FindWindow and FindWindowEx.
      To communicate with the window, use functions like SendMessage.
      For example, TCM_GETITEMCOUNT is a message sent to a SysTabControl32 to query the number of available tabs.

      BGM_GETROWS is defined by Notepad++ itself.

      SetForegroundWindow is used to ensure that the following simulated keystrokes (keybd_event) are sent to the application they are intended for.

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      • Alan KilbornA
        Alan Kilborn @TBugReporter
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        @TBugReporter said in Where’s the “New Window” command?:

        I don’t know if it’s differences in programming style, or just the fact that your (Eko) script is doing all the heavy lifting, but @Alan-Kilborn’s is much easier for me to wrap my head around.

        This is totally because Eko’s script IS doing the “heavy lifting”. My script is simple in comparison.

        When you see ctypes in a Python program, expect “heavy lifting”, “magic”, and “pixie dust” to be on display. :-)

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        • EkopalypseE
          Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
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          @Alan-Kilborn said in Where’s the “New Window” command?:

          When you see ctypes in a Python program, expect “heavy lifting”, “magic”, and “pixie dust” to be on display. :-)

          :-D and it works only during full moon and when you dance around a fire :-D

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          • TBugReporterT
            TBugReporter @Ekopalypse
            last edited by TBugReporter

            I’m dancing as fast as I can (meaning “as my spare time allows”), but I’ve hit a snag. I want my script’s output to read the name of the tab where a given shortcut was found, but the descriptions I’ve found of how to do this for other languages either assume the existence of library functions in that language which I can’t find source code to, or else they dive headfirst into deep voodoo without a life jacket. :-}

            I’m guessing I have to do something like

            user32.SendMessageW(sys_tab_hwnd, TCM_GETITEMCOUNT, 0, 0)
            

            but send a different message, and figure out how to read the response. Any chance one of you could point me in a less random direction?

            Also, given that this thread has drifted so far away from the original topic, is there any way I can change its title?

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            • EkopalypseE
              Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
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              @TBugReporter

              I can take a look today after work (in 6-7 hours).

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              • guy038G
                guy038
                last edited by guy038

                Hello, @tbugreporter ,

                Regarding specifically the title changes, which title would you like to see ? As a moderator, I can modify it easily !

                BR

                guy038

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                • EkopalypseE
                  Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
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                  @TBugReporter

                  Found the time to try it out during my lunch break.

                  TCM_GETITEMW = (TCM_FIRST + 60)  # get the current tab message
                  TCIF_TEXT = 1  # flag to specify that we are only interested in pszText
                  
                  # define the storage that will contain the requested information.
                  class TCITEM(ctypes.Structure):
                      _fields_ = [('mask',        wintypes.UINT),
                                  ('dwState',     wintypes.DWORD),
                                  ('dwStateMask', wintypes.DWORD),
                                  ('pszText',     wintypes.LPWSTR),
                                  ('cchTextMax',  wintypes.INT),
                                  ('iImage',      wintypes.INT),
                                  ('lParam',      wintypes.LPARAM)]
                  
                  
                  pszText = ctypes.create_unicode_buffer(260)  # create a buffer to hold the tab text
                  tcitem = TCITEM()  # create an instance
                  tcitem.mask = TCIF_TEXT  # specify that we want to read the pszText field
                  tcitem.pszText = addressof(pszText)  # points to the tab text buffer 
                  tcitem.cchTextMax = len(pszText)  # length of buffer
                  pITEM = byref(tcitem)  # pointer to the concrete struct TCITEM 
                  
                  # within the for loop call
                  found = user32.SendMessageW(sys_tab_hwnd, TCM_GETITEMW, tab, pITEM)
                  if found:
                  	print(tcitem.pszText)
                  

                  Seems to work, let me know if anything is unclear.

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                  • TBugReporterT
                    TBugReporter @guy038
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                    @guy038:

                    which title would you like to see ?

                    How about

                    Finding available shortcut keys (originally "Where's the 'New Window' command?")
                    

                    As a moderator, I can modify it easily !

                    TYVM!

                    @Ekopalypse:

                    Seems to work, let me know if anything is unclear.

                    Yes, that looks like the info I needed; now I just have to add it to the script.

                    TYVM to you too!

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                    • TBugReporterT
                      TBugReporter @Ekopalypse
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                      @Ekopalypse

                      My latest sticking point:

                      NameError: global name 'byref' is not defined
                      
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                      • rdipardoR
                        rdipardo @TBugReporter
                        last edited by

                        NameError: global name 'byref' is not defined
                        

                        Try ctypes.byref instead.

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                        • TBugReporterT
                          TBugReporter
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                          Here’s a question from the “newless cluebie to Python” department:

                          I’m currently struggling with errors like

                          NameError: global name 'my_new_variable' is not defined
                          

                          I read that there’s a “global” statement that can help, but it doesn’t seem to work for me. Exactly where should this go? Or, is there another way I can rearrange the code that will avoid this?

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                          • EkopalypseE
                            Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                            last edited by

                            @TBugReporter

                            In the function in which it is used, suppose there is a code like this

                            x = 42
                            y = {'x': 42}
                            
                            def main():
                                global x
                                x += 1
                                y['x'] += 1
                                print(x)
                                print(y)
                                
                            main()
                            

                            x needs to be defined as global, while it is not necessary for y, because it is a dict.

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                            • TBugReporterT
                              TBugReporter
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                              The pest is back! 😁 (I thank you in advance for your patience with me.)

                              • Can I use PythonScript to display a Windows MessageBox? Can I create my own custom dialogs in Windows style?

                              • How can I prematurely end my script (if something weird happens)? I found sys.exit(), but this apparently terminates all of Notepad++ along with the script.

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                              • PeterJonesP
                                PeterJones @TBugReporter
                                last edited by PeterJones

                                @TBugReporter said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                • Can I use PythonScript to display a Windows MessageBox?

                                Yes. 😉1

                                Can I create my own custom dialogs in Windows style?

                                Not easily. 😉2

                                • How can I prematurely end my script (if something weird happens)? I found sys.exit(), but this apparently terminates all of Notepad++ along with the script.

                                The best way I’ve found is to have a bunch of “if” processing so that it keeps on dumping out without running any of your code

                                ----

                                WinkNotes: 😉3

                                😉1: notepad.messageBox()

                                😉2: Alan tends to get around this by doing a bunch of free-form editor.input() notepad.prompt() calls, and then processing the text that the user types in to make the decisions. In theory, since PythonScript comes with the libraries necessary to access any of the win32 API functions: see plenty of examples in the forum with accessing SendMessage; searching the forum on the SendMessage from win32 API, and narrowing it down to @Ekopalypse’s posts, will get you some good examples pretty quickly – you would then have to extrapolate from that on how to access the various win32 API functions you want. But that said, I don’t know how practical it is to build a whole window using raw API calls – normally when programming win32 API, you would use resource files or equivalents, but I have no clue if you can define a resource file and easily give access to that resource file to the Python interpreter in PythonScript. (If you figure out a way, let me know, because I want to use that to reduce my library requirements in PerlScript some day.)

                                😉3: wink notes are similar to footnotes, but made more annoying because I hid my actual answer inside the footnotes rather than in the main flow of the conversation

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                                • TBugReporterT
                                  TBugReporter @PeterJones
                                  last edited by TBugReporter

                                  @PeterJones said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                  The best way I’ve found is to have a bunch of “if” processing

                                  If I have to resort to something like that, I’d use

                                  while True:
                                      pass
                                  

                                  instead. (Still an evil hack, but it seems slightly more elegant.)

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                                  • EkopalypseE
                                    Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                                    last edited by Ekopalypse

                                    @TBugReporter

                                    With ctypes you have access to the Windows Api and can therefore do everything it offers. E.g. create a TaskDialog.

                                    39a6b14b-f03f-41a6-aca0-71952d2acaeb-image.png

                                    You can also build your own dialogs with the included Tkinter module, see for example the Formatter.py script from the demo directory.

                                    As for sys.exit, I found out that calling a “main” function and returning from that function serve the same purpose.

                                    def main():
                                        if x != 0:
                                            return
                                    
                                    main()
                                    
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                                    • PeterJonesP
                                      PeterJones @PeterJones
                                      last edited by PeterJones

                                      @PeterJones said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                      free-form editor.input() calls

                                      It was pointed out to me that it should have said notepad.prompt() . sorry for the confusion. I have updated the original post to not confuse future readers.

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                                      • Alan KilbornA
                                        Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
                                        last edited by Alan Kilborn

                                        @Ekopalypse said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                        You can also build your own dialogs with the included Tkinter module

                                        For me, this approach is just “too much” as in “complication” but to each his own. Maybe I’ve just never liked Tkinter in general.

                                        I don’t know, I’ve felt that the “mini UIs” I’ve been able to create with the notepad.prompt() window are lightweight and workable… A classic example would be in this THREAD; see the script in the Dec 16, 2017, 11:03 PM posting.

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                                        • PeterJonesP
                                          PeterJones @Ekopalypse
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                                          @Ekopalypse ,

                                          Was your screenshot created with the Tkinter library, or with raw calls to the TaskDialog? If with raw calls, could you share the code (as a gist if it’s too long to fit nicely in the forum)?

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                                          • EkopalypseE
                                            Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
                                            last edited by

                                            @Alan-Kilborn

                                            I don’t use Tkinter either, but as you said it is an alternative.
                                            90% of my scripts I use have a configuration section, so no dialog at all. The rest use dialogs like the task dialog.
                                            Just my preference - could be done differently.

                                            @PeterJones

                                            The screenshot with the TaskDialog was created with ctypes and the corresponding Win32 API calls.
                                            Give me a few minutes to create a standalone, callable version. I’ll post the link to the gist once I’m done.

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