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    • PeterJonesP
      PeterJones @Ekopalypse
      last edited by

      @Ekopalypse ,

      Was your screenshot created with the Tkinter library, or with raw calls to the TaskDialog? If with raw calls, could you share the code (as a gist if it’s too long to fit nicely in the forum)?

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      • EkopalypseE
        Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
        last edited by

        @Alan-Kilborn

        I don’t use Tkinter either, but as you said it is an alternative.
        90% of my scripts I use have a configuration section, so no dialog at all. The rest use dialogs like the task dialog.
        Just my preference - could be done differently.

        @PeterJones

        The screenshot with the TaskDialog was created with ctypes and the corresponding Win32 API calls.
        Give me a few minutes to create a standalone, callable version. I’ll post the link to the gist once I’m done.

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        • EkopalypseE
          Ekopalypse @PeterJones
          last edited by

          @PeterJones

          tested with PS 2 and 3.
          Note the comment on FindResourceExA
          If something is unclear, let me know.

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          • Alan KilbornA
            Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
            last edited by

            @Ekopalypse said:

            (provided code link)
            tested with PS 2 and 3.
            Note the comment on FindResourceExA
            If something is unclear, let me know.

            I’m sure it works great.
            IMO though, it seems “heavy”.
            But…it depends on how much effort one wants to put in, I guess.

            I mean, that is a lot of lines of code, just for a UI for a script.
            When considering that the non-UI part of the code is only going to add to that already large line count, well…

            Also, there’s no “edit box” type of input demo’d, which seems kind of important when one considers what we’ve been able to do in the past to gather user input from the workhorse notepad.prompt() function.

            This is by no means an insult to the code provided, just some comments…

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            • EkopalypseE
              Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
              last edited by

              @Alan-Kilborn

              Yes, it is larger than a “prompt” solution, and the TaskDialog is strictly defined by MS. You can only have what it provides.

              If you want a custom dialog, you have to wrap DialogBoxes
              but that is just as heavy, if not heavier, than the TaskDialog.

              The prompt solution may be fine for simple scripts, but as soon as you need to parameterize a script with different settings depending on different models, it is much easier to use a guided dialog, at least in my opinion.

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              • Alan KilbornA
                Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
                last edited by Alan Kilborn

                @Ekopalypse said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                The prompt solution may be fine for simple scripts

                “Simple” scripts are really all we should be doing, with a tool such as the PythonScript plugin.

                Of course, and probably more of late, some of mine haven’t exactly been “simple”, so I’m a violator of my above edict. :-)

                And maybe sadly, I’ve got a doozy in the in-progress pipeline. Maybe my excuse for it is, let’s push the limits of a PS.

                But maybe my overall point is, if I can keep the UI relatively simple-minded, I can spend more time on the “meat” of whatever the script is trying to accomplish.

                Others can go off and make the UI part as polished (and as complicated and lengthy) as they want to, in their own scripts.

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                • EkopalypseE
                  Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
                  last edited by

                  @Alan-Kilborn said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                  Of course, and probably more of late, some of mine haven’t exactly been “simple”

                  :-D for sure !! :-D

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                  • TBugReporterT
                    TBugReporter @TBugReporter
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                    @Ekopalypse said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally "Where's the 'New Window' command?"):

                    As for sys.exit, I found out that calling a “main” function and returning from that function serve the same purpose.

                    Due to the scope errors I’ve been getting, I decided to forego that, and just put everything as immediate commands.

                    @Alan-Kilborn said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                    I’m sure it works great.
                    IMO though, it seems “heavy”.

                    At 445 lines for do-nothing sample code, “heavy” seems an understatement. 😁

                    @TBugReporter said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                    How can I prematurely end my script (if something weird happens)?

                    Here’s what I came up with for this:

                    def bailout(msg):                               # routine to display error message and exit
                        print(msg)                                  # duplicate msg to console
                        notepad.messageBox(msg, "Error", 0)
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_MENU,   0, 0,     0)  # press alt key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_P,      0, 0,     0)  # press P key (to activate "Plugins" menu)
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_P,      0, KEYUP, 0)  # release P key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_MENU,   0, KEYUP, 0)  # release alt key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_P,      0, 0,     0)  # press P key (to activate "Python Script" submenu)
                        # above assumes no other Plugins starting with "P" are installed
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_P,      0, KEYUP, 0)  # release P key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_RIGHT,  0, 0,     0)  # press cursor right key (to enter submenu)
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_RIGHT,  0, KEYUP, 0)  # release cursor right key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_DOWN,   0, 0,     0)  # press cursor down key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_DOWN,   0, KEYUP, 0)  # release cursor down key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_DOWN,   0, 0,     0)  # press cursor down key again (to move to "Stop Script")
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_DOWN,   0, KEYUP, 0)  # release cursor down key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_RETURN, 0, 0,     0)  # press enter key
                        user32.keybd_event(VK_RETURN, 0, KEYUP, 0)  # release enter key
                    
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                    • EkopalypseE
                      Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                      last edited by

                      @TBugReporter

                      … or you could have used

                      notepad.runPluginCommand('Python Script', 'Stop Script')
                      
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                      • TBugReporterT
                        TBugReporter @Ekopalypse
                        last edited by TBugReporter

                        @Ekopalypse

                        !
                        (When the only tools you know about are hammers, all your problems tend to look like nails.)


                        And now, question number umpteen-plus-one, regarding this part of your script:

                            sk_mapper_hwnd = user32.FindWindowW(None, u'Shortcut mapper')
                            if not sk_mapper_hwnd:
                                print('Shortcut mapper was not found')
                                return
                        
                            sys_tab_hwnd = user32.FindWindowExW(sk_mapper_hwnd, None, u'SysTabControl32', None)
                            if not sys_tab_hwnd:
                                print('SysTabControl32 was not found')
                                return
                        
                            item_count = user32.SendMessageW(sys_tab_hwnd, TCM_GETITEMCOUNT, 0, 0)
                            if not item_count:
                                print('TCM_GETITEMCOUNT returned 0')
                                return
                        
                            babygrid = user32.FindWindowExW(sk_mapper_hwnd, None, u'BABYGRID', None)
                            if not babygrid:
                                print('BABYGRID was not found')
                                return
                        

                        I’d like to add “Abort, Retry, Ignore?” dialogs to these, but I’m getting tripped up on the “Retry” part. What would you consider to be the best practice for this?

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                        • EkopalypseE
                          Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                          last edited by

                          @TBugReporter

                          something like this

                          while True:
                              result = notepad.messageBox('','', MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.ABORTRETRYIGNORE)
                              if result != MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.RESULTRETRY:
                                  break
                          
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                          • Alan KilbornA
                            Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
                            last edited by

                            It boggles the mind that someone would ever think to use the Stop Script menu item, in code, to “bail out”. Just write code that nicely returns, like @Ekopalypse 's main example from earlier. Stop Script should only be run from the menus as a last resort, a “kill my script” kind of thing. And I don’t think I’ve ever had a need to use it.

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                            • TBugReporterT
                              TBugReporter @Alan Kilborn
                              last edited by

                              @Ekopalypse said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                              while True:
                                  result = notepad.messageBox('','', MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.ABORTRETRYIGNORE)
                                  if result != MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.RESULTRETRY:
                                      break
                              

                              Okay, but where do I put the code that I want it to retry, and where do I put the code that tests whether to show the MessageBox? (without having to duplicate either of those?)

                              @Alan-Kilborn said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                              It boggles the mind

                              Yeah, but isn’t it nice to know that your mind can still be boggled? 😁

                              Stop Script should only be run from the menus as a last resort

                              This was a stopgap measure for me - a placeholder until I could understand my difficulties with scope for variables. I think I got that under control; I just need to test it out and then I’ll do like you said.

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                              • PeterJonesP
                                PeterJones @TBugReporter
                                last edited by PeterJones

                                @TBugReporter said in Finding available shortcut keys (originally “Where’s the ‘New Window’ command?”):

                                Okay, but where do I put the code that I want it to retry

                                while True:
                                    result = notepad.messageBox('','', MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.ABORTRETRYIGNORE)
                                    if result != MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.RESULTRETRY:
                                        break
                                    # code to redo goes here
                                

                                or alternately, if it makes more sense to you,

                                while True:
                                    result = notepad.messageBox('','', MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.ABORTRETRYIGNORE)
                                    if result == MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.RESULTRETRY:
                                        # code to redo goes here
                                    else:
                                        break
                                    # code to redo goes here
                                
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                                • TBugReporterT
                                  TBugReporter @PeterJones
                                  last edited by

                                  @PeterJones

                                  It seems to me that that structure won’t do the “code to redo” a first time without first putting up the A/R/I box…?

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                                  • PeterJonesP
                                    PeterJones @TBugReporter
                                    last edited by

                                    @TBugReporter ,

                                    It seems to me that that structure won’t do the “code to redo” a first time without first putting up the A/R/I box…?

                                    Then put the code in whatever order you think is logical for your needs.

                                    while True:
                                       # code to do every loop goes here 
                                       result = notepad.messageBox('','', MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.ABORTRETRYIGNORE)
                                       if result != MESSAGEBOXFLAGS.RESULTRETRY:
                                            break
                                    
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                                    • TBugReporterT
                                      TBugReporter @PeterJones
                                      last edited by

                                      @PeterJones
                                      I’ve now tried this …

                                      def bailout(msg):
                                          print(msg)
                                          user_response = notepad.messageBox(msg, "Error", MB_CANCELTRYCONTINUE | MB_ICONWARNING)
                                          if user_response == MB_RESULTCANCEL:
                                              notepad.runPluginCommand('Python Script', 'Stop Script')
                                          else:
                                              return user_response
                                      
                                      def main():
                                          # ...
                                          while True:
                                              sk_mapper_hwnd = user32.FindWindowW(None, u"Shortcut mapper")
                                              if not sk_mapper_hwnd:
                                                  action_to_take = bailout("Mapper window not found!")
                                              if action_to_take != MB_RESULTTRYAGAIN:
                                                  break
                                          # ...
                                      

                                      … but that gives me …

                                      UnboundLocalError: local variable 'action_to_take' referenced before assignment
                                      

                                      Where did I go wrong?

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                                      • EkopalypseE
                                        Ekopalypse @TBugReporter
                                        last edited by

                                        @TBugReporter

                                        Scope problem. An if-block introduces a new scope and the variables defined there are only valid within this scope. Either the comparison with MB_RESULTTRYAGAIN is indented to have it in the same scope, or action_to_take must be defined at the same scoping level as the comparison.

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                                        • Alan KilbornA
                                          Alan Kilborn
                                          last edited by

                                          I don’t know that I like the trend of this thread. It seems we’re teaching Python??

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                                          • Mendella ReplacementM
                                            Mendella Replacement @Alan Kilborn
                                            last edited by

                                            @Alan-Kilborn please can i get your attention? I need help pls

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