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    • Alan KilbornA
      Alan Kilborn
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      @guy038

      Regarding your Test_OK.txt and Test_KO.txt files…

      I have a resident script that shows me, e.g., “Found match 6 of 27” on the Find window’s status bar when I press Find Next.

      I noticed that when trying your test for the Test_OK.txt file, my script crashes with this error in the PythonScript console window:

      editor.research(find_what_regex_text, lambda m: retval_list.append(m.span(0)))
      RuntimeError: The complexity of matching the regular expression exceeded predefined bounds.  Try refactoring the regular expression to make each choice made by the state machine unambiguous.  This exception is thrown to prevent "eternal" matches that take an indefinite period time to locate.
      

      Again note that this is for the Test_OK.txt file, where Notepad++ itself has no problem finding the match.

      My understanding is that PythonScript integrates its own copy of Boost, so, one would think, with all other things being equal (ha!), that it would succeed when N++ succeeds. But clearly something is not equal.

      I thought this just another interesting tidbit in this topic’s “journey”. :-)

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      • CoisesC
        Coises @Alan Kilborn
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        @Alan-Kilborn said in Getting "Invalid Regular Expression" for an extremely simple expression:

        My understanding is that PythonScript integrates its own copy of Boost, so, one would think, with all other things being equal (ha!), that it would succeed when N++ succeeds. But clearly something is not equal.

        There is a macro variable, BOOST_REGEX_MAX_STATE_COUNT, that influences one of the limits Boost::regex tests when evaluating whether to issue that message. Notepad++ leaves it at its default value, but it is possible that Python changes it.

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        • Scott GartnerS
          Scott Gartner @PeterJones
          last edited by Scott Gartner

          @PeterJones said in Getting "Invalid Regular Expression" for an extremely simple expression:

          or (?-m)^.*[^"]*test$ but that just results in “Invalid regular expression.”

          The first resulted in Invalid Regular Expression; the second just finds no match, because you’ve told it that ^ should only match the beginning of the file and $ should only match the end of the file, and your file is more than one line long.

          Well damn, you’re right. I was sure it gave me a syntax error for both of my examples. I must have gotten myself confused while I was testing.

          Now that I see that, from my testing, (?-m) means ^$ should match the beginning and end of the same line (no intervening LF) and (?m) (the default for NP++) means ^$ has to match the beginning and end of any line in the file. So (?-m) absolutely affects the [^"]* portion of the RE.

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          • PeterJonesP
            PeterJones @Scott Gartner
            last edited by PeterJones

            @Scott-Gartner ,

            Now that I see that, from my testing, (?-m) means ^$ should match the beginning and end of the same line (no intervening LF) and (?m) (the default for NP++) means ^$ has to match the beginning and end of any line in the file. So (?-m) absolutely affects the [^"]* portion of the RE.

            I guess I used loose terminology when I described what (?m) / (?-m) affect. I should have said those options affect the beginning-of-line ^ anchor and the end-of-line $ anchor.

            They don’t affect all ^ symbols, because in some locations, like the beginning of a character class where it negates the character class, and has nothing to do with the beginning-of-line-anchor ^ . To clarify, [^"] literally means “the class that contains every character that is not the ASCII double-quote”, and the ^ in that class is the class-negation operator, it is not the beginning-of-line anchor nor the literal ASCII caret character.

            With those definitions, I cannot see how (?m) / (?-m) affect [^"]* . But, maybe I’m wrong. Can you share a text file and regex where they change the meaning of the [^"]* ? (It would have to be something other than a regex that contains a ^ or $ anchor, because those two anchors are affected by the m-option)

            Further, your statement of what the anchors mean in the non-multiline context (“(?-m) means ^$ should match the beginning and end of the same line (no intervening LF)”) is not phrased in a way that matches with my experience and understanding of the specs. But maybe I am not interpreting that phrase in the way you intended.

            For this example, I will start with a 3-line file (ie, no empty line 4)

            This file
            has multiple
            lines in it
            

            If I run the regex (?m)^ and hit Find Next repeatedly, it will match at three locations, because ^ can match any beginning-of-line in that mode. If I run the regex (?-m)^ , Find Next will only match the beginning of the first line, not the beginning of lines 2 or 3, because (?-m) restricts ^ to only be the beginning of the string rather than of any line (where, in Notepad++, the string is either the entire file). Similarly, (?m)$ will match the end of lines 1, 2, and 3; whereas (?-m)$ will only match the end of the last line of the file.

            Your phrasing indicates to me that you think that the ^ and $ have to be on the same line in (?-m) mode, but my examples show that’s not right – but again, maybe I am misunderstanding your sentence.

            Combining the two ideas: the example file has no quote marks, so [^"]* will match all the non-quote characters the same file). Thus, (?m)^[^"]*$ will match from the beginning of the file to the end, as will (?-m)^[^"]*$ – the m-state is irrelevant. Then make it non-greedy: (?m)^[^"]*?$ will only match one line at a time, because the $ causes the non-greedy section before it to stop at the first end-of-line found; on the other hand, (?-m)^[^"]*?$ will still match the entire file – because the ^ anchor only matches at one location in the entire file (at the beginning) and the $ anchor only ; in this non-greedy, the m-state changes the meaning of the ^ and $ anchors, not the meaning of the [^"]*? .

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            • guy038G
              guy038
              last edited by guy038

              Hello, @scott-gartner, @alan-kilborn, @coises, @mkupper, @mark-Olson, @terry-r, @peterjones and All,

              As mentionned by @alan-kilborn, I found out some spare time to download and test my two files Test_1_OK.txt and Test_2_KO.txt with the GrepWin software

              So, here is, below, the road map for testing.


              • In a new folder, put the two files Test_1_OK.txt and Test_2_KO.txt, already tested within Notepad++

              • Download, in this folder, the last portable x64 version from :

              https://github.com/stefankueng/grepWin/releases/download/2.1.1/grepWin-x64-2.1.1_portable.zip

              • Double-click on file grepWin-x64-2.1.1_portable.zip

              • Extract the single file grepWin-x64-2.1.1_portable.exe, in this folder

              • Double-click on file grepWin-x64-2.1.1_portable.exe

              => You should get this picture :

              54aa3ee7-8180-4fa5-a973-fee53aa557bf-GrepWin.png

              • Enter the name of the new folder in the Search in zone

              • Select Regex search mode

              • Enter ".*employeeId" in the Search for zone

              • Check the Treat Files as UTF8 box option

              • Enter *.txt ( or more exactly Test_?_??.txt ) in the Find names match zone

              • Finally, click on the Search button


              After 2 / 3 seconds, you should get this picture :

              2003b867-cb2c-4810-896a-56230bfbc4dd-GrepWin_F.png

              As you can see :

              • It does find one match, regarding the Test_1_OK.txt file

              • It find a Regex stack error, regarding the Test_2_KO.txt file

              It quite obvious that the results are strictely identical to the ones obtained from within N++. Particularly, note that the error message, regarding Test_2_KO.txt file, is also the same as the one shown in the N++ search dialog, which proves that the error message is a Boost message itself !!

              Thus, it seems to me that this bug can be considered rather a Boost Engine bug !


              Now, if, at the bottom, we click on the Content button, we get this picture :

              7c574155-27f5-4eb2-8eee-ad4db816a20d-GrepWin_C.png

              Note that it does show that one match has been found, either, in the Test_2_KO.txt file !


              Finally, the last picture just confirms that I did my tests with the last GrepWin 2.1.1 release :

              b04af1e9-189c-4280-815e-bbfbb6bea4d0-GrepWin_V.png


              Now, should we ask John Maddock about it ? There are probably a lot of other BORDER cases ! Its’s a combination of a specific regular expression with specific data. As @coises said :

              The message is the result of a heuristic, not a mathematically exact determination. It doesn’t mean the regular expression is technically invalid, it means that, when applied to the data in question, it appears to be very inefficient (possibly — not necessarily — non-terminating).

              For these special cases, the best to do is, indeed, to refactor the regular expression, in order that each part can be considered as unambiguous !!

              Best Regards,

              guy038

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              • CoisesC
                Coises @guy038
                last edited by

                @guy038 said in Getting "Invalid Regular Expression" for an extremely simple expression:

                There are probably a lot of other BORDER cases

                If you’re up for some reading about theory, take a look here:

                https://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/

                The super-short version of that is that regular expression matching can be very efficient (linear in the length of the text being matched) if you allow only the most basic, original syntax of regular expressions. Once you support things like capture groups, non-greedy repeats and (especially) back references, the time can be at least quadratic (and I think sometimes even worse) in the length of the text to be examined.

                It would seem that it should be possible to try a regular expression with an efficient engine first; if it parses, the job is done; if it says the expression isn’t valid within the more limited syntax of the efficient engine, then give it to the potentially slow but more comprehensive engine.

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                • Alan KilbornA
                  Alan Kilborn @Coises
                  last edited by

                  @Coises said in Getting "Invalid Regular Expression" for an extremely simple expression:

                  It would seem that it should be possible to try a regular expression with an efficient engine first; if it parses, the job is done; if it says the expression isn’t valid within the more limited syntax of the efficient engine, then give it to the potentially slow but more comprehensive engine.

                  Are you proposing that Notepad++ implement something like this?

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                  • CoisesC
                    Coises @Alan Kilborn
                    last edited by

                    @Alan-Kilborn said in Getting "Invalid Regular Expression" for an extremely simple expression:

                    Are you proposing that Notepad++ implement something like this?

                    I was more “speculating” than “proposing.”

                    I think I’d want to see proof of value of something like this in a plugin — perhaps the search in my own Columns++, or perhaps in @Thomas-Knoefel’s MultiReplace — before I would suggest changing the implementation of a fundamental feature of Notepad++ itself (though in principle it would be transparent to users, just faster and with fewer of these obscure “complexity” messages).

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                    • guy038G
                      guy038
                      last edited by guy038

                      Hello, @coises and All,

                      @coises, I searched a bit on the Internet and, according to an article of https://stackoverflow.com, I came across a series of tests to compare different regular expression engines :

                      • The older was provided by John Maddowck, in 2003 :

                      https://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_41_0/libs/regex/doc/gcc-performance.html

                      • An other one, on GitHub, with the same tests, was last modified in 2015 :

                      https://zherczeg.github.io/sljit/regex_perf.html

                      The most recent, from the Rust community, with the same tests, either, in 2018 :

                      https://rust-leipzig.github.io/regex/2017/03/28/comparison-of-regex-engines/

                      You can get the main test text, from the Gutenberg project at :

                      http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3200/old/mtent12.zip

                      And here is the results of these tests :

                      https://i.sstatic.net/ORL3Z.png


                      From this picture, here are the different links to get information about all these regex libraries, in the order from left to right :

                      https://github.com/hanickadot/compile-time-regular-expressions

                      https://github.com/google/re2

                      https://theboostcpplibraries.com/boost.regex

                      https://cplusplus.com/reference/regex/

                      https://github.com/PCRE2Project/pcre2

                      https://www.pcre.org/current/doc/html/pcre2matching.html

                      https://www.pcre.org/original/doc/html/pcrejit.html

                      https://github.com/kkos/oniguruma

                      https://github.com/laurikari/tre

                      https://github.com/intel/hyperscan

                      https://github.com/rust-lang/regex

                      https://docs.rs/regex/latest/regex/struct.Regex.html ( not totally sure ? )


                      For instance, I did a try of the last text regex (.*?,){13}z against the complete mtent12.txt test file, extracted from the mtent12.zip archive, which, of course, fails miserably :-((

                      Then, I tried this other regex formulation (?:[^,]*,){13}[\u\l], without success, too ! However, I noticed that beginning at line 500,000 and searching downward does find one match !

                      So, I changed my strategy and simply marked all matches of the regex ,[\u\l]. As, normally, any comma is always followed with a space char, I should not get many matchs !

                      As planned, I got 11 matches : a comma followed with a lower-case letter ! ( ,a × 2, ,b, ,g, ,h, ,m, ,n ,,s × 2, ,t and ,w )

                      Note that the requested case ,z does not exist at all !

                      And when moving the caret, let’s say, 100 - 200 lines before each of these matches, it allowed me to easily get all these matches !

                      At this point, I tried to select all the zones around these 11 matches in a small new file, that I named Matches.txt. Then, using the Mark dialog with (?:[^,]*,){13}[\u\l], against this small file, it does return 10 matches ( not 11 as explained in the next post ! )

                      However, it is distressing to note that the equivalent regex (?:.*?,){13}[\u\l] still fails against this tiny Matches.txt file, of only 16,138 bytes :-((

                      Unfortunately, it’s quite certain that cases, like that one, may arise when using most of the available regex engines !


                      In the next post, you’ll find the Matches.txt contents, for any further testing. My default test, which works nicely, is to mark multi-lines text, matching the (?:[^,]*,){13}[\u\l] regex !

                      Best Regards,

                      guy038

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                      • guy038G
                        guy038
                        last edited by

                        Hi,All,

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                        more insupportable the clatter became, the more enchanted they all
                        
                        appeared to be.  When there was silence, Mrs Sellers lifted upon
                        
                        Washington a face that beamed with a childlike pride, and said:
                        
                        
                        
                        "It belonged to his grandmother."
                        
                        
                        
                        The look and the tone were a plain call for admiring surprise, and
                        
                        therefore Washington said (it was the only thing that offered itself at
                        
                        the moment:)
                        
                        
                        
                        "Indeed!"
                        
                        
                        
                        "Yes, it did, didn't it father!" exclaimed one of the twins.  "She was my
                        
                        great-grandmother--and George's too; wasn't she, father!  You never saw
                        
                        her, but Sis has seen her, when Sis was a baby-didn't you, Sis!  Sis has
                        
                        seen her most a hundred times.  She was awful deef--she's dead, now.
                        
                        Aint she, father!"
                        
                        
                        
                        All the children chimed in, now, with one general Babel of information
                        
                        about deceased--nobody offering to read the riot act or seeming to
                        
                        discountenance the insurrection or disapprove of it in any way--but the
                        
                        head twin drowned all the turmoil and held his own against the field:
                        
                        
                        
                        "It's our clock, now--and it's ,got wheels inside of it, and a thing that
                        
                        flatters every time she strikes--don't it, father!  Great-grandmother
                        
                        died before hardly any of us was born--she was an Old-School Baptist and
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                            Welcome and home were mine within this State,
                        
                              Whose vales I leave -- whose spires fade fast from me
                        
                            And cold must be mine eyes, and heart, and tete,
                        
                              When, dear Alabama! they turn cold on thee!"
                        
                        
                        
                        There were very few there who knew what "tete"
                        
                        meant, but the poem was very satisfactory, nevertheless.
                        
                        
                        
                        Next appeared a dark-complexioned, black-eyed,
                        
                        black-haired young lady, who paused an impressive
                        
                        moment, assumed a tragic expression, and began to
                        
                        read in a measured, solemn tone:
                        
                        
                        
                          "A VISION
                        
                        
                        
                           "Dark and tempestuous was night. Around the
                        
                           throne on high not a single star quivered; but
                        
                           the deep intonations of the heavy thunder
                        
                           constantly vibrated upon the ear; whilst the
                        
                           terrific lightning revelled in angry mood
                        
                           through the cloudy chambers of heaven, seeming
                        
                           to scorn the power exerted over its terror by
                        
                           the illustrious Franklin! Even the boisterous
                        
                           winds unanimously came forth from their mystic
                        
                           homes, and blustered about as if to enhance by
                        
                           their aid the wildness of the scene.
                        
                        
                        
                           "At such a time,so dark,so dreary, for human
                        
                           sympathy my very spirit sighed; but instead thereof,
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                        Then I told her my father and mother was dead, and
                        
                        the law had bound me out to a mean old farmer in the
                        
                        country thirty mile back from the river, and he treated
                        
                        me so bad I couldn't stand it no longer; he went away
                        
                        to be gone a couple of days, and so I took my chance
                        
                        and stole some of his daughter's old clothes and
                        
                        cleared out, and I had been three nights coming the
                        
                        thirty miles. I traveled nights, and hid daytimes and
                        
                        slept, and the bag of bread and meat I carried from
                        
                        home lasted me all the way, and I had a-plenty. I
                        
                        said I believed my uncle Abner Moore would take care
                        
                        of me, and so that was why I struck out for this town
                        
                        of Goshen.
                        
                        
                        
                        "Goshen, child? This ain't Goshen. This is St.
                        
                        Petersburg. Goshen's ten mile further up the river.
                        
                        Who told you this was Goshen?"
                        
                        
                        
                        "Why, a man I met at daybreak this morning, just
                        
                        as I was going to turn into the woods for my regular
                        
                        sleep. He told me when the roads forked I must take
                        
                        the right hand, and five mile would fetch me to
                        
                        Goshen."
                        
                        
                        
                        "He was drunk, I reckon. He told you just ex-
                        
                        actly wrong."
                        
                        
                        
                        "Well,,he did act like he was drunk, but it ain't no
                        
                        matter now. I got to be moving along. I'll fetch
                        
                        Goshen before daylight."
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                        all busted up and ruined, because they could have the
                        
                        heart to serve Jim such a trick as that, and make him
                        
                        a slave again all his life, and amongst strangers, too,
                        
                        for forty dirty dollars.
                        
                        
                        
                        Once I said to myself it would be a thousand times
                        
                        better for Jim to be a slave at home where his family
                        
                        was, as long as he'd GOT to be a slave, and so I'd better
                        
                        write a letter to Tom Sawyer and tell him to tell Miss
                        
                        Watson where he was. But I soon give up that notion
                        
                        for two things: she'd be mad and disgusted at his
                        
                        rascality and ungratefulness for leaving her, and so
                        
                        she'd sell him straight down the river again; and if
                        
                        she didn't, everybody naturally despises an ungrateful
                        
                        nigger, and they'd make Jim feel it all the time, and so
                        
                        he'd feel ornery and disgraced. And then think of
                        
                        ME! It would get all around that Huck Finn helped a
                        
                        nigger to get his freedom; and if I was ever to see
                        
                        anybody from that town again I'd be ready to get
                        
                        down and lick his boots for shame. That's just the
                        
                        way: a person does a low-down thing, and then he
                        
                        don't want to take no consequences of it. Thinks as
                        
                        long as he can hide, it ain't no disgrace. That was
                        
                        my fix exactly. The more I studied about this the
                        
                        more my conscience went to grinding me, and the
                        
                        more wicked and low-down and ornery I got to feel-
                        
                        ing. And at last, when it hit me all of a sudden that
                        
                        here was the plain hand of Providence slapping me in
                        
                        the face and letting me know my wickedness was being
                        
                        watched all the time from up there in heaven,whilst I
                        
                        was stealing a poor old woman's nigger that hadn't
                        
                        ever done me no harm, and now was showing me
                        
                        there's One that's always on the lookout, and ain't a-
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                        person goads, and crowds, and in a manner forces another person
                        
                        to talk, it is neither very fair nor very good-mannered to call what
                        
                        he says clack."
                        
                        
                        
                        "Oh, snuffle--do! and break your heart, you poor thing. Somebody
                        
                        fetch this sick doll a sugar-rag. Look you, Sir Jean de Metz, do you
                        
                        feel absolutely certain about that thing?"
                        
                        
                        
                        "What thing?"
                        
                        
                        
                        "Why, that Jean and Pierre are going to take precedence of all the
                        
                        lay noblesse hereabouts except the Duke d'Alen‡on?"
                        
                        
                        
                        "I think there is not a doubt of it."
                        
                        
                        
                        The Standard-Bearer was deep in thoughts and dreams a few
                        
                        moments, then the silk-and-velvet expanse of his vast breast rose
                        
                        and fell with a sigh, and he said:
                        
                        
                        
                        "Dear, dear, what a lift it is! It just shows what luck can do. Well, I
                        
                        don't care. I shouldn't care to be a painted accident--I shouldn't
                        
                        value it. I am prouder to have climbed up to where I am just by
                        
                        sheer natural merit than I would be to ride the very sun in the
                        
                        zenith and have to reflect that I was nothing but a poor little
                        
                        accident, and got shot up there out of somebody else's catapult. To
                        
                        me, merit is everything--in fact, the only thing. All else is dross."
                        
                        
                        
                        Just then the bugles blew the assembly, and that cut our talk short.
                        
                        
                        
                        Chapter 25 At Last--Forward!
                        
                        
                        
                        THE DAYS began to waste away--and nothing decided,nothing
                        
                        done. The army was full of zeal, but it was also hungry. It got no
                        
                        pay, the treasury was getting empty, it was becoming impossible to
                        
                        feed it; under pressure of privation it began to fall apart and
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                        looking on in tears, all the way, enemies laughing. We reached
                        
                        Gien at last--that place whence we had set out on our splendid
                        
                        march toward Rheims less than three months before, with flags
                        
                        flying, bands playing, the victory-flush of Patay glowing in our
                        
                        faces, and the massed multitudes shouting and praising and giving
                        
                        us godspeed. There was a dull rain falling now, the day was dark,
                        
                        the heavens mourned, the spectators were few, we had no welcome
                        
                        but the welcome of silence, and pity, and tears.
                        
                        
                        
                        Then the King disbanded that noble army of heroes; it furled its
                        
                        flags, it stored its arms: the disgrace of France was complete. La
                        
                        Tremouille wore the victor's crown; Joan of Arc, the
                        
                        unconquerable, was conquered.
                        
                        
                        
                        Chapter 41 The Maid Will March No More
                        
                        
                        
                        YES, IT was as I have said: Joan had Paris and France in her
                        
                        grip,and the Hundred Years' War under her heel, and the King
                        
                        made her open her fist and take away her foot.
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                        been disguised and set at lowly occupations for dramatic effect,
                        
                        but I think McClintock is the first to send one of them to school.
                        
                        Thus, in this book, you pass from wonder to wonder, through gardens
                        
                        of hidden treasure, where giant streams bloom before you,
                        
                        and behind you, and all around, and you feel as happy, and groggy,
                        
                        and satisfied with your quart of mixed metaphor aboard as you would
                        
                        if it had been mixed in a sample-room and delivered from a jug.
                        
                        
                        
                        Now we come upon some more McClintockian surprise--a sweetheart
                        
                        who is sprung upon us without any preparation, along with a name
                        
                        for her which is even a little more of a surprise than she herself is.
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        In 1842 he entered the class, and made rapid progress in the English
                        
                        and Latin departments.  Indeed, he continued advancing with such
                        
                        rapidity that he was like to become the first in his class,
                        
                        and made such unexpected progress, and was so studious, that he had
                        
                        almost forgotten the pictured saint of his affections.  The fresh
                        
                        wreaths of the pine and cypress had waited anxiously to drop once
                        
                        more the dews of Heaven upon the heads of those who had so often
                        
                        poured forth the tender emotions of their souls under its boughs.
                        
                        He was aware of the pleasure that he had seen there.  So one evening ,as
                        
                        he was returning from his reading, he concluded he would pay a visit
                        
                        to this enchanting spot.  Little did he think of witnessing a shadow
                        
                        of his former happiness, though no doubt he wished it might be so.
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                        In 1842 he entered the class, and made rapid progress in the English
                        
                        and Latin departments.  Indeed, he continued advancing with such
                        
                        rapidity that he was like to become the first in his class,
                        
                        and made such unexpected progress, and was so studious, that he had
                        
                        almost forgotten the pictured saint of his affections.  The fresh
                        
                        wreaths of the pine and cypress had waited anxiously to drop once
                        
                        more the dews of Heavens upon the heads of those who had so often
                        
                        poured forth the tender emotions of their souls under its boughs.
                        
                        He was aware of the pleasure that he had seen there.  So one evening,
                        
                        as he was returning from his reading, he concluded he would pay a visit
                        
                        to this enchanting spot.  Little did he think of witnessing a shadow
                        
                        of his former happiness, though no doubt he wished it might be so.
                        
                        He continued sauntering by the roadside, meditating on the past.
                        
                        The nearer he approached the spot, the more anxious he became.
                        
                        At the moment a tall female figure flitted across his path, with a
                        
                        bunch of roses in her hand; her countenance showed uncommon vivacity,
                        
                        with a resolute spirit; her ivory teeth already appeared as she
                        
                        smiled beautifully, promenading--while her ringlets of hair dangled
                        
                        unconsciously around her snowy neck.  Nothing was wanting to complete
                        
                        her beauty.  The tinge of the rose was in full bloom upon her cheek;
                        
                        the charms of sensibility and tenderness were always her associates..
                        
                        In Ambulinia's bosom dwelt a noble soul--one that never faded--
                        
                        one that never was conquered.  Her heart yielded to no feeling
                        
                        but the love of Elfonzo, on whom she gazed with intense delight,
                        
                        and to whom she felt herself more closely bound ,because he sought
                        
                        the hand of no other.  Elfonzo was roused from his apparent reverie.
                        
                        His books no longer were his inseparable companions--his thoughts
                        
                        arrayed themselves to encourage him in the field of victory.
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                        that slavery was a bald, grotesque, and unwarranted ursurpation.  She had
                        
                        never heard it assailed in any pulpit, but had heard it defended and
                        
                        sanctified in a thousand.  As far as her experience went, the wise, the
                        
                        good, and the holy were unanimous in the belief that slavery was right,
                        
                        righteous, sacred, the peculiar pet of the Deity, and a condition which
                        
                        the slave himself ought to be daily and nightly thankful for."
                        
                        
                        
                        Yet Jane Clemens must have had qualms at times--vague, unassembled doubts
                        
                        that troubled her spirit.  After Jennie was gone a little black chore-boy
                        
                        was hired from his owner, who had bought him on the east shore of
                        
                        Maryland and brought him to that remote Western village, far from family
                        
                        and friends.
                        
                        
                        
                        He was a cheery spirit in spite of that, and gentle, but very noisy.  All
                        
                        day he went about singing, whistling, and whooping until his noise became
                        
                        monotonous, maddening.  One day Little Sam said:
                        
                        
                        
                        "Ma--[that was the Southern term]--,make Sandy stop singing all the
                        
                        time.  It's awful."
                        
                        
                        
                        Tears suddenly came into his mother's eyes.
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                        literati, local and visiting, used to gather there.  Names that would be
                        
                        well known later were included in that little band.  Joaquin Miller
                        
                        recalls from an old diary, kept by him then, having seen Adah Isaacs
                        
                        Menken, Prentice Mulford, Bret Harte, Charles Warren Stoddard, Fitzhugh
                        
                        Ludlow, Mark Twain, Orpheus C. Kerr, Artemus Ward, Gilbert Densmore,
                        
                        W. S. Kendall, and Mrs. Hitchcock assembled there at one time.  The Era
                        
                        office would seem to have been a sort of Mount Olympus, or Parnassus,
                        
                        perhaps; for these were mainly poets, who had scarcely yet attained to
                        
                        the dignity of gods.  Miller was hardly more than a youth then, and this
                        
                        grand assemblage impressed him, as did the imposing appointments of the
                        
                        place.
                        
                        
                        
                             The Era rooms were elegant--[he says]--,the most grandly carpeted
                        
                             and most gorgeously furnished that I have ever seen.  Even now in my
                        
                             memory they seem to have been simply palatial.  I have seen the
                        
                             world well since then--all of its splendors worth seeing--yet those
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                        As you can see, the second match stops at the first ,s, with an other string ,s, on the same line, not part of the second match

                        BR,

                        guy038

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                          @guy038 said in Getting "Invalid Regular Expression" for an extremely simple expression:

                          At this point, I tried to select all the zones around these 11 matches in a small new file, that I named Matches.txt. Then, using the Mark dialog with (?:[^,]*,){13}[\u\l], against this small file, it does return 10 matches ( not 11 as explained in the next post ! )

                          However, it is distressing to note that the equivalent regex (?:.*?,){13}[\u\l] still fails against this tiny Matches.txt file, of only 16,138 bytes :-((

                          Unfortunately, it’s quite certain that cases, like that one, may arise when using most of the available regex engines !

                          There are two ways an implementation can look at a regex:

                          1. A regex is a definition of matching character strings.
                          2. A regex is a procedure for matching character strings.

                          From the first perspective, your two expressions are equivalent: they specify the same strings as matches. From the second perspective, they are not: they specify different procedures for finding strings that match.

                          No one has found a way to implement back references using method 1. Once your regular expression syntax includes the ability to use back references, you are stuck with the procedural interpretation.

                          There are other features of PERL-compatible regular expressions that present problems, but back references are the killer.

                          I’m speculating here, but I think once you include any back reference in an expression, it breaks the ability to process any part of the expression that occurs before the back reference as a definition rather than a procedure. (I’m not certain of that. I have no doubt someone does know the answer to that… but that someone isn’t me.)

                          So I think you’ll find all those more efficient regular expression engines implement a severely restricted syntax for regular expressions which omits features none of us would like to do without (particularly, back references).

                          What I’ve also speculated is that perhaps a regular expression engine could include two engines: one which processes using the ”definition” approach for expressions to which it is applicable, and one which uses the “procedural” approach for the remaining expressions. I don’t know if any do that now.

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