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    • donhoD
      donho @PeterJones
      last edited by

      @PeterJones said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

      @donho , did you want to add the links to the Root CA and CRL files on https://notepad-plus-plus.org/resources/ , along with the thumbprints for the Root CA and the current signing certificate you are using?

      The paths of revocation list (crl) and root certificate are indicated in the Notepad++ code signing certificate (you can find them in the section “Details”):

      CRL Distribution Point:

      [1]CRL Distribution Point
           Distribution Point Name:
                Full Name:
                     URL=http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRevoke.crl
      

      Authority Information Access:

      [1]Authority Info Access
           Access Method=Certification Authority Issuer (1.3.6.1.5.5.7.48.2)
           Alternative Name:
                URL=http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRoot.crt
      

      So, firstly if we want to move these 2 files to resources directory, this code signing certificate should be revoked, then a new certificate can be regenerated with 2 modified paths. the RC should be signed again and RC5 should be checked again by the community…

      Secondly, since such information is imposed by the certificate, for me
      URL=http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRoot.crt
      looks more serious then
      URL=http://notepad-plus-plus.org/resources/nppRoot.crt,
      and they are more accessible for the antivirus vendors, IT ppl & users (just under the root - shorter and simpler).

      For the above reasons, let’s keep it as it is. If it’s really bothering, we can always change in 3 years.

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      • PeterJonesP
        PeterJones @donho
        last edited by PeterJones

        @donho ,

        Sorry, I think I didn’t communicate clearly enough. I meant add a paragraph/section to the page at https://notepad-plus-plus.org/resources/ , which will link to the files which can stay at https://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRoot.crt and https://notepad-plus-plus.org/resources/nppRoot.crt , and give details about those files, just like you do for the “Release Key”. Something like:

        a5581676-3a46-4119-b5ed-3669e2b22ca1-image.png

        You don’t have to use exactly that phrasing – I just mocked it up similar to what you had in the earlier section on that page.

        <h2>Self-Signed Root Certificate Authority & Signing Key</h2>
        <p>Notepad++ currently uses its own Root Certificate Authority (CA) for creating signing keys.
        </p>
        <ul>
            <li>URL = <a href="https://http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRoot.crt">https://http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRoot.crt</a></li>
            <li>Issued to: Notepad++</li>
            <li>Issued by: Notepad++</li>
            <li>Valid from 7/7/2025 to 7/7/2055</li>
            <li>Thumbprint = <tt>c4e7785b6dd1daf2aede5c994bb3d495af7b45ab</tt></li>
            <li>Revocation List = <a href="https://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRevoke.crl">https://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRevoke.crl</a></li>
            <li>Instructions = See the <a href="https://npp-user-manual.org/docs/getting-started/#notepad-self-signed-certificate-authority-for-binaries">User Manual: Getting Started: Self-Signed Certificate Authority</a></li>
        </ul>
        <p>The current signing certificate has the following details:</p>
        <ul>
            <li>Issued to: Notepad++</li>
            <li>Issued by: Notepad++</li>
            <li>Valid from 7/7/2025 to 7/7/2028</li>
            <li>Thumbprint = <tt>1c20840863e00c00bcdc30362121693e54966a28</tt></li>
        </ul>
        

        This information will allow people to verify that they have correctly downloaded the right Root Certificate Authority, similar to the way you let them verify the GPG signature.

        To sum up: I wasn’t asking you to change the URL of the certs or to re-issue them. I was asking you to publish the data about them on the main website, similar to the way you publish the data about the GPG signature on the main website.

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        • donhoD
          donho @PeterJones
          last edited by

          @PeterJones said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

          You don’t have to use exactly that phrasing – I just mocked it up similar to what you had in the earlier section on that page.

          Yes, you’re right - I forgot the part of resources!
          I will add the information into this page, so it will be available during the release process.
          Thank you for the reminding!

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          • xomxX
            xomx @donho
            last edited by xomx

            @donho said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

            URL=http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRevoke.crl

            URL=http://notepad-plus-plus.org/nppRoot.crt

            Maybe I’m a little bit lost in all that RC versions, but now I dl again the RC4 ones x64 installer and it’s signed like the above statements, which is just wrong, isn’t it? (should be with https instead):

            npp-cert-http(s).png

            Edit: Seems like MS own signed executables have the same http-only.

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            • donhoD
              donho @xomx
              last edited by

              @xomx said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

              Maybe I’m a little bit lost in all that RC versions, but now I dl again the RC4 ones x64 installer and it’s signed like the above statements, which is just wrong, isn’t it? (should be with https instead):

              The use of “http” instead of “https” wasn’t a mistake - that’s simply how it was done. You can check other digitally signed programs to confirm this.

              In RC5280 “Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate and Certificate Revocation List (CRL) Profile”, Security Considerations section:

               CAs SHOULD NOT include URIs that specify https, ldaps, or similar
                 schemes in extensions.  CAs that include an https URI in one of these
                 extensions MUST ensure that the server's certificate can be validated
                 without using the information that is pointed to by the URI.  Relying
                 parties that choose to validate the server's certificate when
                 obtaining information pointed to by an https URI in the
                 cRLDistributionPoints, authorityInfoAccess, or subjectInfoAccess
                 extensions MUST be prepared for the possibility that this will result
                 in unbounded recursion.
              

              ref: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5280

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              • donhoD
                donho @donho
                last edited by donho

                While writing the release notes, I realized the both certificates (root certificate & code signing certificate) of RC4 have the same information while displaying:

                Issued to: Notepad++
                Issued by: Notepad++
                Valid from 7/7/2025 to XXXXX
                

                Only the the valid dates (to XXXXX) are different.

                To avoid users’ confusion, I did a new root certificate and a new code signing certificate and signed the release again:
                http://download.notepad-plus-plus.org/repository/8.x/8.8.3.RC5/

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                • xomxX
                  xomx @donho
                  last edited by xomx

                  @donho said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

                  Only the the valid dates (to XXXXX) are different.

                  To avoid users’ confusion, I did a new root certificate and a new code signing certificate and signed the release again:

                  ?, the shown “to XXXXX” remains different as before:

                  last root-cert: Valid from 7/9/2025 to 7/9/2055
                  cert in signed RC5 binary: Valid from 7/9/2025 to 7/9/2028

                  Root-certs usually have longer expiration date, I don’t see a problem with it.

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                  • donhoD
                    donho @xomx
                    last edited by donho

                    @xomx said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

                    Root-certs usually have longer expiration date, I don’t see a problem with it.

                    The point is on “Issued to” & “Issued by”: the information should be difference between 2 certificates.
                    It’s more clear in RC5 for users:

                    Root certificate: (Self-signed root certificate)

                    8ce32d0b-b12d-4ee8-9ebf-ebff98d5cd68-image.png


                    Code signing certificate (Code signing certicate issued by Self-signed root certificate)

                    c035d2f1-5e81-4ab0-a01e-1a54cf7534a7-image.png

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                    • xomxX
                      xomx @donho
                      last edited by

                      @donho said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

                      The point is on “Issued to” & “Issued by”: the information should be difference between 2 certificates.

                      Ah, now I see it, thanks.

                      The important is, you left the code-signing one “Issued to” to be the Notepad++, so the possible future UAC pop-ups can say “Notepad++” as the “Verified publisher” (with the N++ cert in the Trusted Root CA) as it was before, right?

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                      • PeterJonesP
                        PeterJones @donho
                        last edited by

                        With the newest certificates and RC5, what I see is

                        • Notepad++ Root Certificate
                          • General
                            • Issued To: Notepad++ Root Certificate
                            • Issued By: Notepad++ Root Certificate
                            • Valid from 7/8/2025 to 7/8/2055
                          • Details
                            • Thumbprint = c80539ff7076d22e73a01f164108dafbf06e45e4

                        And on the signing certificate with the RC5 binary, I see:

                        • Notepad++
                          • General
                            • Issued To: Notepad++
                            • Issued By: Notepad++ Root Certificate
                            • Valid from 7/8/2025 to 7/8/2028
                          • Details
                            • Thumbprint = 7f517e235584afc146f6d3b44cd34c6cc36a3ab2

                        The dates are presumably different because of timezone differences, since early morning 7/9 in France was still 7/8 on the Western timezone in USA.

                        @donho, Please confirm whether these are the correct Thumbprints, according to your records.

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                        • donhoD
                          donho @PeterJones
                          last edited by donho

                          @xomx

                          The important is, you left the code-signing one “Issued to” to be the Notepad++, so the possible future UAC pop-ups can say “Notepad++” as the “Verified publisher” (with the N++ cert in the Trusted Root CA) as it was before, right?

                          Yes, exactly - if the root certificate is installed on users’ machine.

                          @PeterJones

                          I confirm the above information.

                          BTW, the root certificate will be available in GitHub repository as well:
                          https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/master/nppRoot.crt

                          You might consider to include Notepad++ root certificate (nppRoot.crt) in npp-user-manual.org and also the following information:

                          Name: Notepad++ Root Certificate
                          Serial Number: 7A137FBEA48E8D469D2B43D49EBBCB21
                          Thumbprint: C80539FF7076D22E73A01F164108DAFBF06E45E4
                          SHA256: 443B4543C3A682804540849793556FFD3A6CE5D4721C9ADFDA6450223DDD54D7
                          Created: 2025-07-09
                          Expires: 2055-07-09

                          so users could have 3 sources to download the root certificate and do the croiss-verification.
                          It’s totally up to you. But if you do, please provide me the URL of nppRoot.crt - I will include it into my release note & Ressources page.

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                          • PGomersallP
                            PGomersall @donho
                            last edited by

                            @donho said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

                            BTW, the root certificate will be available in GitHub repository as well:
                            https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/master/nppRoot.crt

                            @donho nppRoot.crt is not found at that location

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                            • PeterJonesP
                              PeterJones @PGomersall
                              last edited by PeterJones

                              @PGomersall said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

                              nppRoot.crt is not found at that location

                              I think you missed two of Don’s words from his sentence: “the root certificate will be available” – “will be” implies future tense, so not yet.

                              –
                              update: an hour later, that file does exist at https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/master/nppRoot.crt … so no more waiting

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                              • PeterJonesP
                                PeterJones @donho
                                last edited by

                                @donho said in Notepad++ v8.8.3 Release Candidate:

                                But if you do, please provide me the URL of nppRoot.crt - I will include it into my release note & Ressources page.

                                Sorry if I wasn’t fast enough for the Release Notes…

                                https://npp-user-manual.org/docs/certs/nppRoot.crt

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