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    • EkopalypseE
      Ekopalypse @dail
      last edited by

      @dail

      I have no doubt that this works great. :-)

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      • astrosofistaA
        astrosofista @Ekopalypse
        last edited by

        @Ekopalypse said in Multi-cursor editing:

        Just select the part of the word you are interest in and it should respect it already. This is a scintilla feature not really my work.

        Yes, it works fine… almost all the time. In one of my tests Notepad++ ceased to respond and have to quit it via the taskbar.

        Better stop for today.

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        • guy038G
          guy038
          last edited by guy038

          Hello, @czmaniak, @alan-kilobrn, @peterjones, @ekopalypse, @astrosofista,

          In that discussion, I suppose that the Multi-Editing option is enabled, in >Settings > Preferences... > Editing and that the BetterMultiSelection and PythonScript plugins are both installed, in your N++ configuration !


          It may be worth to note that, by default, in Notepad++, the multiple cursors editing feature behave differently from the column mode editing and that it is identical only if you install and enable the Better MultiSelection plugin of @dail !

          For instance, assuming the five lines, below, the BetterMultiSelection not enabled and the Python script not used :

          12 56498><717 5123 131
          21 78483><000 0456 235
          16 89410><575 5156 464
          97 89411><056 6045 454
          01 25822><644 8970 544
          

          If you create a zero-length column selection, through these five lines, between the > and < chars, you’re able to
          type in some chars, even tabulations and/or spaces and you may delete few chars, with the backspace or the Delete key.

          However, as soon as you want to use, for instance, the right arrow key or the Ctrl + Left shortcut, the Home or End key and even the Enter key, these commands do not act for all the lines of the column selection


          Now, click between the > and < chars of the first line. Then, holding down a Ctrl key, click, at the same location, for line 2 to 5. The screen seems similar to before but, this time, we get, I would say, something like a 5 one-line column selection ( instead a 1 five-line column selection ) !

          Therefore, the use of the arrow keys, shortcuts involving arrow keys, the the Home, End key and Enter key correctly act as expected ;-))

          The good news is that IF you enable the BetterMultiselection @Dail’s plugin, from within N++, you can, use this enhanced behaviour, too, when creating a classical column selection ;-))


          Obviously, the @ekopalypse’s python script does not create a column selection but, indeed, places individual cursors on every line, containing a specific word. This explains why if we use the @ekopalypse’s python script, below, we do not need the BetterMultiSeelection, in conjunction !

          from Npp import editor
          first_line = editor.getFirstVisibleLine()
          editor.setTarget(0, editor.getTextLength())
          editor.multipleSelectAddEach()
          editor.rotateSelection()
          editor.setFirstVisibleLine(first_line)
          

          Of course, this script solution seems more flexible, because it places all the cursors at the end of a specific selected word, so, not necessarily at the same column, in each line !


          Now, and a bit off-topic, I would like some information from Python guru’s people ;-))

          In order to realize this post, I decided to install, manually, on my portable N++ v7.8.5 release, the last V1.5.3 version of the PythonScript plugin, from :

          https://github.com/bruderstein/PythonScript/releases

          • First, I did not know to choose between the PythonScript_Full_1.5.3.0.zip and the PythonScript_Full_1.5.3.0_PluginAdmin.zip archives ! After downloading the two archives, I just realized that they were strictly identical and, also, verified, with WinMerge, that their contents were the same !? So what ?

          • Then I created, as usual, a PythonScript sub-folder, in the Plugins folder

          • Opening the archive PythonScript_Full_1.5.3.0.zip, I noticed that the two dll Python27.dll and PythonScript were at the same level. So, I supposed that, from now on, the Python27.dll file wasn’t anymore along with the Notepad++.exe file

          • Therefore, I just extracted all the contents of the archive in the PythonScript sub-folder, that I just created

          • However, during N++ start-up, I got the message, in French :

          “This application could not start because python27.dll cannot be found. …”

          • Luckily, putting back the Python27.dll library, along with Notepad++.exe, everything is back to normal ;-)) And the consultation of the v1.5.3 documentation works just fine, too, from its new location !

          Best Regards,

          guy038

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          • Alan KilbornA
            Alan Kilborn @guy038
            last edited by Alan Kilborn

            @guy038 said in Multi-cursor editing:

            PythonScript_Full_1.5.3.0.zip and the PythonScript_Full_1.5.3.0_PluginAdmin.zip … they were strictly identical

            I also confirm this.
            No idea as to the “why” of it.

            “This application could not start because python27.dll cannot be found. …”

            This part I could NOT duplicate.
            For me it worked just fine with python27.dll in the PythonScript subfolder under Plugins.

            af070d32-a41b-46a6-b7f6-26ffac5cb85d-image.png

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            • Alan KilbornA
              Alan Kilborn @guy038
              last edited by

              @guy038 said in Multi-cursor editing:

              So I tried the following with no BetterMultiselection plugin, nor any Pythonscript influence. I’m interested in what you think about it.

              I started with this text:

              12 56498><717 5123 131
              21 78483><000 0456 235
              16 89410><575 5156 464
              97 89411><056 6045 454
              01 25822><644 8970 544
              
              123
              456789
              
              12 56498><717 5123 131
              21 78483><000 0456 235
              16 89410><575 5156 464
              97 89411><056 6045 454
              01 25822><644 8970 544
              

              and created “a 5 one-line column selection” like you did on the first five lines. Thus the most-recent (i.e., the “main” selection caret) was on the 5th line.

              My goal in this testing was to use the down arrow (and only that key) to move my “selection carets” so that they were in the same spot in the lower grouping of five lines as they were in the top set of five lines.

              I found I could not do it.

              What I obtained was four carets in column 1 and one caret (the original “main” selection one) in between the >< on the last line of the file.

              To be fair to N++, I did the same test in the Scintilla demo editor, with the same result.

              Maybe my expectation in this scenario is unrealistic?

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              • EkopalypseE
                Ekopalypse @astrosofista
                last edited by

                @astrosofista said in Multi-cursor editing:

                … almost all the time

                Ooopppss - did not happen to me yet.
                Is it possible that a very, very large amount of data had to be selected?
                I have done a small performance/stress test using this script to generate the test data.

                editor.appendText('This is a teest to see if it works\r\n'*100000)

                It took about 1 minute, on my PC, until all 100_000 instances were selected.
                For a test with 1000 instances, which in my opinion is still not
                a real world test - I mean, who has 1000 instances of the same word
                in their source code? - it actually selected it immediately.

                @guy038 , @Alan-Kilborn

                I ASSUME one of it, guess which one, is for the plugin admin,
                maybe a naming thing?? But of course, if both are the same then the
                non-plugin-admin version could have been deleted.

                Python27 should be loadable from within plugin directory.
                There was a change in npp source which allows plugins now to find
                their needed dlls within its directory.

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                • guy038G
                  guy038
                  last edited by guy038

                  Hello, @czmaniak, @alan-kilborn, @peterjones, @ekopalypse, @astrosofista,

                  Regarding the Python problem, I deleted my Python install and re-installed the plugin with, unfortunately, the same result. My python27.dll library has version 2.7.17150.1013 and contains 2,649,600 bytes. But, never minds : it should be related to my old Win-XP laptop !!


                  Now, Alan, assuming the text,below :

                  123
                  456789
                  
                  12 56498><717 5123 131
                  21 78483><000 0456 235
                  16 89410><575 5156 464
                  97 89411><056 6045 454
                  01 25822><644 8970 544
                  
                  123
                  456789
                  
                  12 56498><717 5123 131
                  21 78483><000 0456 235
                  16 89410><575 5156 464
                  97 89411><056 6045 454
                  01 25822><644 8970 544
                  
                  123
                  456789
                  

                  I did your test, without any plugin, involved :

                  • I placed a caret, between the > and < chars inside the first block, so 5 ones, using the Ctrl key

                  • Then, hitting 9 times on the Down arrow, only, I obtained exactly what you got !

                  • Now, cancel any null selection

                  • Create a normal column selection, between the > and < chars of the first block

                  • Then, hitting 9 times on the Down arrow, only, anunique cursor was present on the 5th line of the second block


                  • Now, enable the BetterMultiSelection plugin

                  • Place a caret, between the > and < chars inside the first block, so 5 ones, using the Ctrl key

                  • If you hit 9 times on the Down arrow, only, this time, the 5 carets are correctly located, between the > and < chars of the second block of five lines :-))

                  • Cancel any null selection

                  • Create a normal column selection, between the > and < chars of the first block

                  • If you hit 9 times on the Down arrow, only, again, the 5 carets are correctly located, between the > and < chars of the second block of five lines :-))

                  So, the @dail’s BetterMultiSelection plugin is definitively a must and should be installed and enabled every time ;-))


                  IMPORTANT : To cancel any complicated number of selections, resulting of the use of the BetterMultiSelection plugin, simply hit the ESC key !

                  Cheers,

                  guy038

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                  • EkopalypseE
                    Ekopalypse @guy038
                    last edited by

                    @guy038

                    Ahh, yes - this was one of the reason to drop XP support as this
                    API is not supported by XP.

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                    • astrosofistaA
                      astrosofista @Ekopalypse
                      last edited by

                      @Ekopalypse said in Multi-cursor editing:

                      Ooopppss - did not happen to me yet.
                      Is it possible that a very, very large amount of data had to be selected?

                      No, it wasn’t. It was late and I’m sorry but can’t exactly remember what was the selection to be made, surely the target were partial words. But don’t worry, maybe the issue had other causes. If I can reproduce it will let you know.

                      Best Regards

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                      • astrosofistaA
                        astrosofista @guy038
                        last edited by

                        @guy038, @alan-kilborn, All

                        I tried to replicate your tests as long as I understood them, with just Notepad++ basic multiselection feature, that is, disabling the BMS plugin and without running Ekopalypse PS:

                        Giphy

                        In the first test I created a null selection column by pressing Shift + Alt + Down Arrow 5 times. As soon as I moved the caret down with an arrow key, the multiselection got lost. End of test.

                        Second test. Created a null selection column pressing Cntrl + Click 5 times. Moved it down and arrived to line 14 with 5 cursors but misalignated. To resolve this unwanted result hit End and all the 5 cursors aligned at the end lines —or hit Home to get a similar output—. Then went up and got the same as before.

                        Conclusion: It matters how the multiselection is created. I’m really puzzled.

                        Best Regards

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                        • EkopalypseE
                          Ekopalypse @astrosofista
                          last edited by

                          @astrosofista

                          scintilla knows and uses different selection modes.

                          By using SHIFT+ALT+ARROWDOWN/UP you are creating a rectangular selection. By using CTRL+mouse_click you are creating the stream mode.

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                          • astrosofistaA
                            astrosofista @Ekopalypse
                            last edited by

                            @Ekopalypse

                            -Thank you. I was unaware of these different modes of selection, considered them as an unique mode, without any difference.

                            So the selection mode that is created by means of your Python plugin, for example, like in the gif animation you uploaded to this thread two days ago, seems to be a stream mode. Am I right?

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                            • Alan KilbornA
                              Alan Kilborn @astrosofista
                              last edited by

                              @astrosofista said in Multi-cursor editing:

                              So the selection mode that is created by means of (PythonScript) plugin…seems to be a stream mode.

                              It’s not explicit in the Python code presented, but most of the P.S. functions that deal with creating selections assume you want stream mode. There are only a few functions that allow you to create column-block selections:

                              editor.setRectangularSelectionAnchor()
                              editor.setRectangularSelectionAnchorVirtualSpace()
                              editor.setRectangularSelectionCaret()
                              editor.setRectangularSelectionCaretVirtualSpace()
                              
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                              • EkopalypseE
                                Ekopalypse @astrosofista
                                last edited by

                                @astrosofista said in Multi-cursor editing:

                                Am I right?

                                Yes. :-)

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                                • astrosofistaA
                                  astrosofista @Alan Kilborn
                                  last edited by

                                  @Alan-Kilborn

                                  Good to know, thank you :)

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                                  • astrosofistaA
                                    astrosofista @Ekopalypse
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ekopalypse

                                    Thank you :)

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                                    • astrosofistaA
                                      astrosofista @astrosofista
                                      last edited by

                                      @astrosofista said in Multi-cursor editing:

                                      @Ekopalypse said in Multi-cursor editing:

                                      Ooopppss - did not happen to me yet.
                                      Is it possible that a very, very large amount of data had to be selected?

                                      No, it wasn’t. It was late and I’m sorry but can’t exactly remember what was the selection to be made, surely the target were partial words. But don’t worry, maybe the issue had other causes. If I can reproduce it will let you know.

                                      Hi @Ekopalypse, All

                                      I think I found the mentioned issue. When a character as a comma (,) is selected —shown at the top of the posted imagen— the Python script works as expected, but things go weird when you select a period or a dot (.) and run the PS —at the bottom of the imagen—, as the multiselection now encompass all the characters of the document:

                                      7a7f19be-6d48-43ac-9f67-2a8aec81009d-imagen.png

                                      Hope this helps.

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                                      • Alan KilbornA
                                        Alan Kilborn @astrosofista
                                        last edited by Alan Kilborn

                                        @astrosofista

                                        Apparently the script is treating the . as the regular expression for “any single character”. Thus, when the script is run with only a . character selected, you get a blinking (if so configured) caret at every position in the doc. This script modification corrects it:

                                        from Npp import editor
                                        first_line = editor.getFirstVisibleLine()
                                        editor.setSearchFlags(0)          # <---------- the new line
                                        editor.setTarget(0, editor.getTextLength())
                                        editor.multipleSelectAddEach()
                                        editor.rotateSelection()
                                        editor.setFirstVisibleLine(first_line)
                                        

                                        I’m not sure of the complete set of possible arguments to .setSearchFlags() – it is not documented so well in the P.S. docs–but I found these in the Notepad++ source code:

                                        #define SCFIND_NONE 0x0
                                        #define SCFIND_WHOLEWORD 0x2
                                        #define SCFIND_MATCHCASE 0x4
                                        #define SCFIND_WORDSTART 0x00100000
                                        #define SCFIND_REGEXP 0x00200000
                                        #define SCFIND_POSIX 0x00400000
                                        #define SCFIND_CXX11REGEX 0x00800000
                                        

                                        My modification to the script is using SCFIND_NONE.

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                                        • astrosofistaA
                                          astrosofista @Alan Kilborn
                                          last edited by

                                          @Alan-Kilborn

                                          Definitively regex, or at least some of its functions are invoked in the original PS. I typed an \s at the end of the first paragraph —I mean the GNU License sample text—, then selected the backslash, run the script, then the s and the script… PS ignored single characters and only take into consideration whole words, so when I selected the first T, PS did nothing, but This was selected and PS correctly matched the other two instances of the word.

                                          Anyway, the script modification you provided solved the issue. A big thanks for your assistance and fast reply.

                                          Best Regards.

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                                          • EkopalypseE
                                            Ekopalypse
                                            last edited by

                                            @astrosofista @Alan-Kilborn

                                            Thanks for testing and improving.
                                            I haven’t noticed it yet but it makes sense.
                                            The documentation for searchFlags is described here.

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