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    • Christopher WagnerC
      Christopher Wagner
      last edited by

      Thanks Claudia. I did try starting fresh with the %APPDATA% folder. I also un-installed and reinstalled and it doesn’t seem to work. I still can’t make ‘column mode’ selections. Any additional guidance would be appreciated.

      Here is my debug information:

      Notepad++ v7.5.1 (32-bit)
      Build time : Aug 29 2017 - 02:35:41
      Path : C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\notepad++.exe
      Admin mode : OFF
      Local Conf mode : OFF
      OS : Windows 10 (64-bit)
      Plugins : mimeTools.dll NppConverter.dll NppExport.dll NppFTP.dll

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      • Claudia FrankC
        Claudia Frank @Christopher Wagner
        last edited by

        @Christopher-Wagner

        I did try starting fresh with the %APPDATA% folder.

        just to be sure, did you check whether notepad++ directory has been recreated
        once you started npp?

        Would you mind test the zipped version? Just download, unpack to whatever folder you like and doubleclick notepad++.exe.

        Cheers
        Claudia

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        • Scott SumnerS
          Scott Sumner @Christopher Wagner
          last edited by

          @Christopher-Wagner

          Okay, so what exactly are you doing? “Alt+click” maybe isn’t descriptive enough for anyone to tell what is happening for you–it makes me think you aren’t dragging (see below), which is key to column-mode selection with the mouse. Also, “alt+shift+arrow” makes me think you might be doing this all one one line, which would make it not look like a column block, but just like a standard selection.

          Try this to test mouse operation:

          • Copy this text into a new editor window:

            aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
            bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
            cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
            dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
            eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

          • Hold an Alt key down and Left-Click (and hold) on the third a in the first line

          • Now (with Alt and the Left mouse button still down), drag the mouse down and to the right, and if you move down into the line of e characters, the result should be something like this:

          Imgur

          The above is what a proper column block might look like–notice the first 2 columns of each line are NOT part of the block selection, nor are the non-highlighted columns to the right of the block.

          Try this to test keyboard operation:

          • Use the same text in the same editor buffer

          • Use the arrow keys (alone) to get the caret (cursor) positioned in column 3 of line 1 (it will look like it is between the second and third a on the first line)

          • You should have no highlighted selection at the moment

          • Press and hold Shift+Alt while you press and release the down arrow key 4 times. You should obtain a “tall, skinny” caret/cursor…something like this (ignore the green–something specific to my setup, you won’t have it):

          Imgur

          • Without doing anything else first (you should still be holding Shift+Alt), next press and release the right arrow key a number of times; here’s how it should look:

          Imgur

          Okay, so that ends the column mode tutorial–report back if you don’t achieve the same results and we’ll try to help further.

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          • Christopher WagnerC
            Christopher Wagner @Scott Sumner
            last edited by

            @Claudia-Frank:

            just to be sure, did you check whether notepad++ directory has been recreated
            once you started npp?

            I did check, and yes, the directory was re-created.

            @Claudia-Frank:

            Would you mind test the zipped version? Just download, unpack to whatever folder you like and doubleclick notepad++.exe.

            I downloaded and tested the zipped version of the software. Still no dice.

            @Scott-Sumner said:

            @Christopher-Wagner

            Okay, so what exactly are you doing? “Alt+click” maybe isn’t descriptive enough for anyone to tell what is happening for you–it makes me think you aren’t dragging (see below), which is key to column-mode selection with the mouse.
            …
            Okay, so that ends the column mode tutorial–report back if you don’t achieve the same results and we’ll try to help further.

            Thanks for the tutorial. I am endeavoring to use the feature correctly. On a previous computer on a previous project I used this feature all the time. I did try using both [alt] + [click] (and drag) as well as [alt] + [shift] + [arrow keys] to make selections. I am able to turn on “multiple editing” in the settings which enables [ctrl] + [click], but this is not as convenient for the blocks of text I am working on.

            Thanks for your continued help.

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            • PeterJonesP
              PeterJones
              last edited by

              Have you checked the Settings > Shortcut Mapper > Scintilla commands, for the

              I would expect to see

              • SCI_LINEDOWNRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Down
              • SCI_LINEUPRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Up
              • SCI_CHARLEFTRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Left
              • SCI_CHARRIGHTRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Right

              with no shortcut conflicts found.

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              • Christopher WagnerC
                Christopher Wagner
                last edited by

                @PeterJones said:

                Have you checked the Settings > Shortcut Mapper > Scintilla commands, for the
                I would expect to see

                • SCI_LINEDOWNRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Down
                • SCI_LINEUPRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Up
                • SCI_CHARLEFTRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Left
                • SCI_CHARRIGHTRECTEXTEND = Alt+Shift+Right

                with no shortcut conflicts found.

                Thanks for the suggestion. I can confirm that those shortcuts are correctly listed with no conflicts.

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                • Claudia FrankC
                  Claudia Frank @Christopher Wagner
                  last edited by

                  @Christopher-Wagner

                  really strange, does the alt key work anyway?
                  What if you press alt+end, does the cursor jump to the end of the line?

                  Do you have some special mouse software in use (One which can configure different actions
                  for different mouse buttons)?

                  Cheers
                  Claudia

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                  • Nauduri Venkata Ravi Rama SastryN
                    Nauduri Venkata Ravi Rama Sastry
                    last edited by

                    Hi, faced a similar problem. i got resolved only after a System restart

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                    • vij4ydV
                      vij4yd
                      last edited by

                      I know its frowned upon to reply to old threads, but seeing that this topic was never resolved, and to help anyone else reaching here after googling:
                      If the alt key on the left side of your keyboard does not work, try with the one on the right. That worked for me, I don’t know why it doesn’t like the one on the left. :/

                      I had to signup just to comment this.

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                      • Alan KilbornA
                        Alan Kilborn @vij4yd
                        last edited by

                        @vij4yd

                        I know its frowned upon to reply to old threads

                        I don’t know that this is true, at least here…

                        I had to signup just to comment this

                        Yes, you did. Is that a problem?

                        If the alt key on the left side of your keyboard does not work, try with the one on the right

                        I’ve never heard of this making a difference, but what does make a difference, and isn’t mentioned in this thread, is using the dedicated arrow keys (works) versus using the shared arrow keys on the numeric keypad (doesn’t work). So…if any future readers are trying to get column selecting to work with the numeric keypad arrows, it isn’t going to.

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