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    • mrpink84M
      mrpink84 @PeterJones
      last edited by mrpink84

      @PeterJones Well that stinks. It was definitely a Notepad++ update that changed things, as there was no issue with the global hot key before. Just tried updating the other app and it still works everywhere in any window, but Notepad++. Weird.

      EDIT: I have to think it’s related to the macros changes in 8.5.3? Notepad++ seems to be taking more control now within its walls, as is its right I guess. https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/topic/24464/faq-desk-v8-5-3-macros-and-run-menu-commands

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      • mkupperM
        mkupper @mrpink84
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        @mrpink84 Let’s see if we can confirm that a change to Notepad++ is causing the problem you noticed.

        In your first post you wrote “I updated to the most recent Notepad++” but did not say what version that was nor if you are using the installed version, portable version, x32 or x64. Thus, I’ll have to guess a bit and you will need to translate my guesses.

        1. Install portable versions of both the “old” and “new” versions of Notepad++ each in their own directories. Do you need detailed help with this?
        2. Start each copy of Notepad++ using -multiInst on the command line. I’d type something in the blank new-text window of each copy so that you know which version you are looking at as you switch windows.
        3. Bring each of the instances of Notepad++ to the foreground and see if the ` hotkey for Ditto works.

        If you can establish that yes, specific versions of Notepad++ have the problem then please include the ? / debug info results of the versions that work or fail to work with Ditto when writing about the issue so that other people can reproduce it. I suspect Notepad++ should not be grabbing another application’s hotkey and so it’s likely the issue will get fixed if you can demonstrate how to reproduce the issue. It looks like Ditto is available from https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/ditto-clipboard/9NBLGGH3ZBJQ

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        • Alan KilbornA
          Alan Kilborn @mkupper
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          @mkupper said in New Update Hijacks My Tilde Key?:

          It looks like Ditto is available from

          The store link is light on info. Here’s a link with more: https://ditto-cp.sourceforge.io/

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          • mrpink84M
            mrpink84 @Alan Kilborn
            last edited by mrpink84

            @mkupper Great, thank you! I just saw this reply, and I will take care of this when I have a moment. Sorry about not specifying the version and flavor. I was updated and have since updated to v8.5.4 32-bit and still see the issue. I will get back to you. Thank you again!

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            • mrpink84M
              mrpink84 @mrpink84
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              @mrpink84 I figured it out! Notepad++ was running in Administrator privileges. This was also breaking the Drag and Drop from a File Explorer window. With the Administrator privileges disabled and it running as a normal application, it’s playing well with everything. I’m not sure how that got changed. I went back to 8.4.2 and noticed the same Drag and Drop issue so decided to disable that and that was it.

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              • mkupperM
                mkupper @mrpink84
                last edited by

                @mrpink84 Thank you for the troubleshooting and feedback. I found it interesting that apparently Windows prioritizes routing keystrokes to the foreground app if it’s running in administrative mode. From a safety and security standpoint I can see why Windows does that.

                Presumably you would see the same behavior if you had an administrative command prompt and tried to use the ` in that the command prompt would get the ` backtick and Ditto does not get activated.

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                • CoisesC
                  Coises @mkupper
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                  @mkupper Most likely Ditto is not running with administrator privileges. I’m not familiar with the details, but I’m fairly sure Windows will not process keyboard hooks for input to an application running with administrator privileges unless the hook was also created with administrator privileges. This Superuser discussion might be relevant, though it’s not the same thing.

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                  • Victorel PetrovichV
                    Victorel Petrovich @mrpink84
                    last edited by

                    @mrpink84 said in New Update Hijacks My Tilde Key?:

                    Notepad++ was running in Administrator privileges

                    How did you find out? How can I know one of my apps currently runs with admin priviledges?

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                    • Terry RT
                      Terry R @Victorel Petrovich
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                      @Victorel-Petrovich said in New Update Hijacks My Tilde Key?:

                      How did you find out?

                      The Notepad++ titlebar will show “administrator”. Additionally running Debug Info will reference the administrator mode as ON.

                      In admin mode the preferences will likely be different, and that can include backup settings and file storage defaults.

                      Admin mode is best only used when needing to open/edit a file that your normal account cannot.

                      Terry

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                      • Victorel PetrovichV
                        Victorel Petrovich @Terry R
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                        @Terry-R Ok, thank you for the information.

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