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    bnote
    last edited by May 21, 2018, 10:56 AM

    Is there a way to preserve file’s modification time unchanged after save, as it was before editing?

    Thank you.
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      PeterJones
      last edited by May 21, 2018, 1:24 PM

      Let me get this straight: you want to modify (change) the file, then save it, but not have the file’s modification time changed? It is the default behavior of Notepad++ to follow standard practices and update the modification time when a file is modified; otherwise, the modification time becomes meaningless.

      If you want to corrupt the modification time, on your own, after saving, you can use a program similar to the linux touch utility (like touch.exe, which can be found in the gnuwin32 port of coreutils for Windows ). And there’s even a way (using a plugin like NppExec ) to create a script that runs the NPP save, then immediately runs touch.exe or similar, and you could assign that script to a keystroke – even overriding the default Ctrl+S, if you wanted to.

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        gstavi
        last edited by May 21, 2018, 1:35 PM

        Obviously NP++ does not modify timestamps directly.
        NP++ uses system API to open file for write and this call has a desirable side effect of updating modification time.
        Wanting to keep file’s modification time unchanged after its contents were changed is something that is typically reserved for malicious users.

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          Scott Sumner @gstavi
          last edited by May 21, 2018, 1:40 PM

          The OP did not state WHY s/he wanted to retain the file’s old modification time. Let’s presume there is a perfectly valid reason for wanting this.

          I didn’t try it but it sure seems like something that could be scripted to run after a file-save event occurs. Probably wouldn’t want this for every file, but maybe a file with a specific name, or located in a specific folder…with script code all could likely be done…

          Of course, maybe changing the mod time in such a manner would cause N++'s File Status Auto-Detection logic to fire if that feature is enabled (suppose it could be disabled to prevent this potential issue).

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            bnote
            last edited by May 21, 2018, 5:31 PM

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            Let me get this straight: you want to modify (change) the file, then save it, but not have the file’s modification time changed?

            Yeah.

            … to follow standard practices

            Whose standard practices and for whom?
            The essence of the question is exactly to move away from standard practice.

            … otherwise, the modification time becomes meaningless.

            Hm-m… Meaningless… For you? May be.
            But for me - just vice-versa.

            … you want to corrupt the modification time, …

            Do not say such things out loud.
            I want to keep it unchanged. You see the difference between this terms?

            … on your own, after saving, you can use …

            Thank you. Very much!
            I have a lot of I can and before, and after :)
            I have the bundle of such applications for Windows.
            And surrogate automation I have already now.
            However, I want not ‘after saving’, but instead of it, by the forces of Npp itself.

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            Obviously … API …

            I think so too.
            However, nothing prevents to save opened file’s attributes in dark and cool place, and then bring them back. There are a lot of SetFileTime related functions.

            … that is typically reserved for malicious users.

            And you too - do not say such things out loud.

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            The OP did not state WHY s/he wanted to retain the file’s old modification time. Let’s presume there is a perfectly valid reason for wanting this.

            Thank you for moral support :)

            … would cause N++'s File Status Auto-Detection …
            May be. And Monitoring too.
            But it is a very special case and the interference of these functions should simply not be allowed at the level of the Npp itself. Especially because the timestamp changing event will raise twice - first by OS, and the second - by Npp, when time stam will restored.

            I have ownwrited application that run 24x5 and I use API Function ‘WriteFile’, constantly appending data w/o closing handle. I tried now on this remoted PC to open this log in old Npp 6.6.2 - Auto-Detection do not work. I try open it as share on my desktop Npp 7.3.2 - nor Auto-Detection, nor Monitoring not work. But the file is intensilty appending :) and OS show the unchanged time of file creating.

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            OK. At least - few words about wtf it need for me :)

            I often have to go to the archives of code, both my own and others. In Far-manager this is all quite easy and meticulously (time, content, size) is compared. Troubles appears when the difference between files is in extra space, linebreak etc. It need to correct 2-3 bytes of code, but, getting identical content, I loose historical timestamp, in first, and in second - got error of compare by time :)

            It is very troublesome to use a third party programs for this purpose - it nee to save original time by some manner, edit-save file and set saved time, that need to be passed by some manner too…

            If Npp had this feature, but I already guess that it does not have it, then it would be enough to spit out the file from the archive, edit it and throw it back.
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