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    • EkopalypseE
      Ekopalypse @dinkumoil
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      @dinkumoil

      selected text is handled internally by scintilla with SCI_SETSELFORE and SCI_SETSELBACK

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      • EkopalypseE
        Ekopalypse
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        @dinkumoil - btw. there is no SCI_GET… equivalent of those calls, so if it is
        needed to store the default value in case of resets then you have to read the
        config.xml to get the current used styler.xml/theme.xml and read the value from there. :-(

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        • dinkumoilD
          dinkumoil @Ekopalypse
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          @Ekopalypse
          Thank you for providing these information.

          @tomasz1986
          As you can see it is only possible to set the character color and the background color of selected text. No fancy boxes with filling and borders, sorry.

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          • tomasz1986T
            tomasz1986
            last edited by tomasz1986

            @dinkumoil said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

            As you can see it is only possible to set the character color and the background color of selected text. No fancy boxes with filling and borders, sorry.

            No problem. Thank you for investigating.

            You mentioned the “character color”, but Notepad++ ignores the fgColor value for “Current line background colour”, so as far as I understand, it is only possible to modify bgColor of selected text. Your plugin, in addition, allows to modify the transparency, which is then applied to both the background and the text.

            Is this correct?

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            • dinkumoilD
              dinkumoil @tomasz1986
              last edited by dinkumoil

              @tomasz1986 said:

              as I understand, it is only possible to modify bgColor of selected text

              That’s true, technically it is possible to set a background and a character color but Notepad++ doesn’t support the latter one.

              Notepad++ ignores the fgColor value for “Current line background colour”

              Why do you think so? Style configurator provides an option to configure that setting.

              Your plugin … allows to modify the transparency, which is then applied to both the background and the text.

              No. The alpha value for selections which my plugin can set only changes the opacity of the background color, i.e. the selection color.

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              • EkopalypseE
                Ekopalypse
                last edited by

                @dinkumoil

                a new scintilla feature is showing dots next to a folded line
                Maybe worth including to your plugin?

                b173d6f6-c414-4967-b0ff-64fb427d6a33-image.png

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                • tomasz1986T
                  tomasz1986 @dinkumoil
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                  @dinkumoil said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

                  @tomasz1986 said:

                  as I understand, it is only possible to modify bgColor of selected text

                  That’s true, technically it is possible to set a background and a character color but Notepad++ doesn’t support the latter one.

                  Notepad++ ignores the fgColor value for “Current line background colour”

                  Why do you think so? Style configurator provides an option to configure that setting.

                  Are these two sentences not contradicting? The setting is indeed there, but the selected text colour does not change, no matter what colour is specified there. Only the background colour changes.

                  On the topic: https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/topic/12578/can-t-change-foreground-color-of-selected-text

                  I hope that we are talking about the same thing here. I use “fgColor” to mean the text/font colour, and “bgColor” to mean the background colour, as this is how they are used in the themes xml files.

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                  • tomasz1986T
                    tomasz1986
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                    On the other hand, enforcing the text colour with external scripts (as explained in the other thread linked above) overwrites all syntax highlighting in the selected field of text, so it can become problematic very quickly, and I am not really sure if this is really worth it. That is why I myself would prefer a box style selection :). Since you said that it was not possible, it is probably better to leave the issue as it is, and focus on more important things. I have managed to get the job done with the standard text selection fine enough.

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                    • dinkumoilD
                      dinkumoil @Ekopalypse
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                      @Ekopalypse said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

                      Maybe worth including to your plugin?

                      Indeed, I think it is. I will put it on my list.

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                      • dinkumoilD
                        dinkumoil @tomasz1986
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                        @tomasz1986 said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

                        Are these two sentences not contradicting?

                        I hope that we are talking about the same thing here. I use “fgColor” to mean the text/font colour, and “bgColor” to mean the background colour

                        Sorry, I’ve messed up things. To be clear I should thoroughly define what I’m talking about.

                        Selection highlighting

                        Technically it is possible to set a background and a character color for selection highlighting but Notepad++ doesn’t support the latter one, respectively it ignores the according setting that may be available in whatever config file.

                        Current line highlighting

                        As in Style Configurator the setting is named “Current line background colour”, it is only possible to configure the background color of the current line highlighting. Notepad++ doesn’t support configuring the character color, respectively it ignores the according setting that may be available in whatever config file. I don’t know if there is a Scintilla setting that would allow to set the character color of the current highlighted line. I don’t know as well how current line highlighting is implemented internally. Maybe @Ekopalypse can provide this information?


                        enforcing the text colour with external scripts … overwrites all syntax highlighting in the selected field of text

                        Yes, thats the reason why I’ve never thought about changing text colors of selection or current line highlighting and would never include such a feature in my plugin.

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                        • EkopalypseE
                          Ekopalypse @tomasz1986
                          last edited by

                          @tomasz1986

                          one possible alternative would be to disable that behavior at all
                          and using indicators with a scripting language plugin like
                          this. Note, code is just a demo - I haven’t really looked deeper to see
                          whether there is something else to do.

                          f1b5dfa6-66dc-45a3-8b19-be3c4c5aca9f-image.png

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                          • EkopalypseE
                            Ekopalypse @dinkumoil
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                            @dinkumoil @tomasz1986

                            sorry but to be honest, I am lost about your discussion with selection and highlighting. If we talk about the selecting lines then the scintilla functions
                            SCI_SETSELFORE(bool useSetting, colour fore) (this is fgColor which isn’t used by npp)
                            SCI_SETSELBACK(bool useSetting, colour back)
                            needs to be used. If it is about the other matches then it is smart highlighting
                            and what are you talking about?

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                            • dinkumoilD
                              dinkumoil @Ekopalypse
                              last edited by

                              @Ekopalypse said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

                              what are you talking about?

                              After finishing the topic “selection highlighting” @tomasz1986 started talking about “current line highlighting”. I’ve messed up things in my answer and wanted to clarify later on. But I think we should let it go now…

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                              • tomasz1986T
                                tomasz1986 @Ekopalypse
                                last edited by tomasz1986

                                @Ekopalypse said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

                                and what are you talking about?

                                Yeah, I was just happy that I could set “filling alpha” to “0” and “outline alpha” to “255”, so that Smart Highlighting would show only border with no background colour (which is the same as in Sublime Text, by the way). Then, I started asking about doing the same for ordinary (i.e. not smart) text selection, and the discussion went from there.

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                                • tomasz1986T
                                  tomasz1986
                                  last edited by tomasz1986

                                  @dinkumoil I think I have found a small issue regarding the plugin’s settings and about windows. When I open any of them, and then switch to a different program in Windows, it is impossible to go back to Notepad++ by clicking its taskbar button. I can only go back by using Alt+Tab. Just for reference, as I have not checked other Windows versions, this is happening in Windows 7 Enterprise x64 with Classic Theme enabled.

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                                  • dinkumoilD
                                    dinkumoil @tomasz1986
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                                    @tomasz1986 said in [New Plugin] ExtSettings:

                                    found a small issue regarding the plugin’s settings … When I open any of them, and then switch to a different program in Windows, it is impossible to go back to Notepad++ by clicking its taskbar button.

                                    Thank you, I will have a look at that.

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                                    • EkopalypseE
                                      Ekopalypse
                                      last edited by

                                      @dinkumoil

                                      another one :-) (npp doesn’t use it at all as far as I can see)
                                      The differences, between 0 and 1, are more visible on the display as
                                      in the image but I guess still noticeable.

                                      my default font size

                                      952ca386-5ecc-416f-b9bf-bc42caf41937-image.png

                                      max font size

                                      90358878-71bc-4d8b-9eba-26f64d690258-image.png

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                                      • Alan KilbornA
                                        Alan Kilborn @Ekopalypse
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                                        @Ekopalypse

                                        Which “technology” do you prefer? I don’t see much if any difference.

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                                        • EkopalypseE
                                          Ekopalypse @Alan Kilborn
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                                          @Alan-Kilborn

                                          the most difference, on my machine, is between 0 and 1.
                                          And SC_TECHNOLOGY_DIRECTWRITE (1) is the one I used for some time now
                                          and I like it with Roboto Mono font.
                                          Between 1 and [2, 3] the changes are only visible, again, on my machine, when
                                          zooming in as much as possible.
                                          But I understand, that this might, depending on your directx settings and usage, be a different experience compared to mine.
                                          If I change from 1 to 0 everything is MUCH thinner and harder to read.
                                          (Everything means, of course, within scintilla only)

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                                          • dinkumoilD
                                            dinkumoil @Ekopalypse
                                            last edited by dinkumoil

                                            @Ekopalypse

                                            I did some testing using NppExec plugin to send the Scintilla events. The only differences between SC_TECHNOLOGY_DEFAULT (value 0) and the other technology modes are:

                                            • Characters get slightly wider and higher
                                            • It is possible to use SCI_INDICSETSTYLE 29 INDIC_GRADIENT and SCI_INDICSETSTYLE 29 INDIC_GRADIENTCENTRE to set search match highlighting to these gradient modes.

                                            I even don’t see the slight difference in font weight between SC_TECHNOLOGY_DEFAULT and the other modes that I can see in your first set of screen shots above. I use Source Code Pro font.

                                            All in all, I have to thoroughly think about whether it’s worth to include this setting in my plugin.

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