Multi-cursor editing

czmaniak

Hello Peter, best way how to show you what i need is VIDEO. My question is if the same can be done in Notepad++.

PeterJones

That is not a complicated regex to develop for search-and-replace. If I saw your video correctly, you want to search for some text, BEAMON; on the line after that, you want to add text (something like F200), and on the line after that, you want to add different text (F1000).

SEARCH = (?-s)^(BEAMON\R)^(.*)(\R)^(.*)$
- (?-s) = turn off .-matches-newline inside the regex (override the GUI checkbox)
- ^(BEAMON\R) = search for a line matching BEAMON with newline, store in group1 aka ${1}
- ^(.*)(\R) = search for the entire next line and put in group2 aka ${2} and put the newline sequence in group3 aka ${3}
- ^(.*)$ = search for the entire next line and put it in group4 aka ${4}
REPLACE = ${1}${2} F200${3}${4} F1000
- build replacement from group 1, group 2, F200, group 3, group 4, and F1000
MODE = regular expression

Start with a file like:

BEAMON
first
second
other
...
BEAMON
uno
dos
tres
...
BEAMON
eins
zwei
drei
...

End with a file like

BEAMON
first F200
second F1000
other
...
BEAMON
uno F200
dos F1000
tres
...
BEAMON
eins F200
zwei F1000
drei
...

With the details I gave, it should be customizeable to other similar replacements.

So far, I have still seen nothing that indicates it needs more than regex search-and-replace.

PeterJones

@PeterJones said in Multi-cursor editing:

That is not a complicated regex to develop

Re-reading that statement some time later, I feel I should explain:

I wasn’t try to say, “it’s easy, and you’re an idiot if you couldn’t figure it out” – not at all. Regex is a very powerful tool, and it’s hard to be an expert in it. I am far from an expert, and learn new regex thought processes and tactics from others of the regulars in this forum on a daily basis.

What I meant was, “compared to some of the regexes I’ve seen, even in this forum, it’s not a complicated one with lots of conditionals and resets and assertions”.

When I developed this regex for you, I basically said to myself: “the goal is to look for a particular word as the only component of a first line, then grab that and the next two lines into about three storage groups (one per line); in the replacement, use those groups, and put the F200 and F1000 at the end of the second and third lines”. I then translated those English phrases into the regex “phrases” I am comfortable with.

While doing that translation from mental algorithm to regex syntax, I realized I needed to treat the newline that came after the second line separately from the rest of the second line (because I want to put something between the second line and its newline sequence); since I had to match it separately, I put it into a separate group, so that I wouldn’t have to guess whether your document used Windows or Linux newline sequences in the replacement; I also realized I don’t really need to do anything about the newline on the third line, so I don’t need to capture it at all (it has the side benefit of meaning that whether your file ends on the third line, or there’s a newline and another single or thousand or indeterminate lines after, it will work).

The best way I find to develop a regex is to break down my requirements into simple chunks; if those chunks require nothing more than pattern matching and memory, it’s usually straightforward to translate into a regex. If those chunks use words like “add 5” or “add N” or “insert random number”, then I realize I need a full programming language rather than just regex.

If you can express a problem in those terms, then even if you don’t know all the regex syntax to do it, usually a person with more regex experience can help you with that. And that’s what we often do here (even though regex are not the primary purpose for the existence of this forum). And if the regex I suggest doesn’t work exactly, show us a better example of the text, which includes more edge cases, and examples of things that should and shouldn’t change, and show us the before and after, and we can usually muddle through it – especially if you’re showing effort.

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czmaniak

Regex is something new for me that I have no experience with, I do not know where to write text with commands, where to start? My English is not so good it can also be a bit of a problem. I’ll try to look at the forum content for more information.

Thank you very much for your time and effort to explain this issue to me. I appreciate it really much

Alan Kilborn

After all the back and forth above, I’ve sort of changed my mind. I think that the way the OP wants to go about this is very reasonable, without using search-and-replace. The scenario is rather rare, but for where text is very regular before or after the original search is conducted…I can see it.

Ekopalypse

@czmaniak

If I understand this correctly, then one, non-plugin way would be,
to press and hold the CTRL button and click with the mouse on the
respective places.

Alan Kilborn

@Ekopalypse said in Multi-cursor editing:

If I understand this correctly, then one, non-plugin way would be,
to press and hold the CTRL button and click with the mouse on the
respective places.

True, but I get the feeling we are talking about hundreds of such places, potentially, which makes that problematic.

Ekopalypse

@Alan-Kilborn
I assume so too.
I do have a little PS script for selecting all same words

from Npp import editor
first_line = editor.getFirstVisibleLine()
editor.setTarget(0, editor.getTextLength())
editor.multipleSelectAddEach()
editor.rotateSelection()
editor.setFirstVisibleLine(first_line)

Ekopalypse

In case someone is trying this.
If no word is selected the first execution would select the current word
and the next execution all others.

Alan Kilborn

@Ekopalypse

Yes, this (or a variant which included a search) would get all of the carets in the correct place, but from there the OP’s desire is to be able to move all of the carets in junction to a constants offset from that point, and which point insertion/deletion would commence. At least this is what I gather from watching the OP’s video. And if I try something like that after running your script, all but one of the carets is removed as soon as I do the first cursor movement operation. I expected this.

But I also respect the OP’s desire for something like this to be possible.

astrosofista

@Alan-Kilborn said in Multi-cursor editing:

Yes, this (or a variant which included a search) would get all of the carets in the correct place, but from there the OP’s desire is to be able to move all of the carets in junction to a constants offset from that point, and which point insertion/deletion would commence. At least this is what I gather from watching the OP’s video. And if I try something like that after running your script, all but one of the carets is removed as soon as I do the first cursor movement operation. I expected this.

Hi @Alan-Kilborn, @Ekopalypse, All:

As I understand, Ekopalypse’s script in conjunction with the BetterMultiSelection plugin provide an interesting approach if not an actual solution to OP’s request.

Take a look to how I can resolve the sample that Op posted before in this thread:

giphy

If needed, I can post the commands used to move the caret in the above embedded gif.

Ekopalypse

@Alan-Kilborn, @astrosofista

I watched the youtube video and it looks like you can do this
with my script.
You do get multiple selection and those will move when using the arrow keys.
What do I miss??

astrosofista

@Ekopalypse said in Multi-cursor editing:

You do get multiple selection and those will move when using the arrow keys.
What do I miss??

@Ekopalypse

You need to check the Multi-Selection option in Preferences and install the BetterMultiSelection plugin.

Ekopalypse

@astrosofista

thx, but I can already do what your gif shows without having BetterMultiSelection installed just by using my script.

Alan Kilborn

@Ekopalypse

You do get multiple selection and those will move when using the arrow keys.

Well, I’ve never had much luck with doing that in a “real” way. A real way would be a real problem I’m working on.

BTW, I like futzing around with Notepad++ and its peculiarities, but it gets frustrating fast when you are trying to do something “real” and you run into Notepad++'s bugs. :-)

Ekopalypse

this is how it looks like on my PC

astrosofista

@Ekopalypse said in Multi-cursor editing:

thx, but I can already do what your gif shows without having BetterMultiSelection installed just by using my script.

@Ekopalypse

You are right. I disabled the plugin and your script does all the work and OP should pay close attention to it.

Anyway I still believe that the conjuntion of both the plugin and your script creates a better tool. The plugin works nice with contiguous selections, which it can create by draging, and your script extend its capabilities to make distant selections. I thank you for it.

By the way, have you plans to make the plugin able to search for partial words? At first glance looks like a nice addition.

Disclaimer: I am not related in any way with the mentioned plugin, just a happy user.

Ekopalypse

@astrosofista said in Multi-cursor editing:

Anyway I still believe that the conjuntion of both the plugin and your script creates a better tool.

Can be the case absolutely, @dail does a great job with all of his plugins. :-)

By the way, have you plans to make the plugin able to search for partial words? At first glance looks like a nice addition.

Just select the part of the word you are interest in and it should respect it already. This is a scintilla feature not really my work.

dail

@Ekopalypse I use BetterMultiSelection in conjunction with LuaScript to select multiple instances and then edit them simultaneously…works quite nicely.

Ekopalypse

@dail

I have no doubt that this works great. :-)