Remove columns from a file

guy038

Hi, @laurent, @alan-kilborn and All,

When I talk about simplification, it’s a great big word !

I just meant that we could replace the two shortcuts Alt + Shift+ Left and Alt + Shift+ Right with Alt + Left-mouse click !

Cheers,

guy038

Alan Kilborn

@guy038 said in Remove columns from a file:

I just meant that we could replace the two shortcuts Alt + Shift+ Left and Alt + Shift+ Right with Alt + Left-mouse click !

Still too burdensome, if my hands are on the keyboard. :-)
But, in truth, I have a macro for those two combinations anyway plus Begin/End Select, tied to Shift+Ctrl+b.
Thus if I’m doing a normal Begin/End Select, I do two Ctrl+b, one at each end of my block.
But if I’m intending to do a column version of same, I start it with a Ctrl+b, move to my endpoint, and do Shift+Ctrl+b.

Initially, I wanted it to be Shift+Alt+b instead, however, I found that combination will “ring the bell” on my machine, which I found very annoying. It seems to do this because “Alt” is involved. Does anyone know how to prevent this, if it doesn’t just happen to me?

PeterJones

@Alan-Kilborn said in Remove columns from a file:

I wanted it to be Shift+Alt+b instead, however, I found that combination will “ring the bell” on my machine

I believe it’s because in most Windows apps, including Notepad++, the Alt+letter or Alt+Shift+letter will try to activate the menu with that accelerator value. If that accelerator doesn’t exist, then it will beep at you.

However, when I map the Begin/End Selection to Alt+B and the Macro (Alt+Shift+RightArrow,Alt+Shift+LeftArrow,Being/End Selection) to Alt+Shift+B, the Alt+Shift+B stops ringing the bell.

Alan Kilborn

@PeterJones said in Remove columns from a file:

when I map the Begin/End Selection to Alt+B and the Macro (Alt+Shift+RightArrow,Alt+Shift+LeftArrow,Being/End Selection) to Alt+Shift+B, the Alt+Shift+B stops ringing the bell.

That’s interesting.
Does that mean that somehow when invoking the Alt+Shift+b, it knows somehow that Alt+b is assigned to some function in Notepad++ (and thus is not an non-existent menu command)?

I feel like I want to map Alt+b to nothing (SCI_NULL ?) just so the bell will not ring if I changed my macro to be Shift+Alt+b.
I certainly don’t want my Begin / End Select command mapped to Alt+b instead of Ctrl+b – after years of having it on Ctrl+b, it would be hard to get used to. Plus, in my mind, Alt+something IS for dropping a menu, unless combined with Shift as well.

PeterJones

@Alan-Kilborn said in Remove columns from a file:

@PeterJones said in Remove columns from a file:

when I map the Begin/End Selection to Alt+B and the Macro (Alt+Shift+RightArrow,Alt+Shift+LeftArrow,Being/End Selection) to Alt+Shift+B, the Alt+Shift+B stops ringing the bell.

That’s interesting.
Does that mean that somehow when invoking the Alt+Shift+b, it knows somehow that Alt+b is assigned to some function in Notepad++ (and thus is not an non-existent menu command)?

Nope. I unassigned Begin/End Selection, and left Alt+Shift+B on the macro, and Alt+Shift+B still didn’t ring the bell.

I also verified that using the macro to both Begin and End the column selection worked. Since I don’t have the years of training on Ctrl+B, I might just train myself to Alt+Shift+B for begin and end column selection. :-)

Alan Kilborn

@PeterJones said in Remove columns from a file:

I also verified that using the macro to both Begin and End the column selection worked

I never thought of “starting” that way, but yes, it should and does work.
Nice one!

Nope. I unassigned Begin/End Selection, and left Alt+Shift+B on the macro, and Alt+Shift+B still didn’t ring the bell.

Something sounds suspicious about this…
Does it remain after a restart?

PeterJones

@Alan-Kilborn said in Remove columns from a file:

Something sounds suspicious about this…
Does it remain after a restart?

It remains after a restart of Notepad++, yes.

I unzipped a fresh Notepad++, ran it, and verified that Alt+Shift+B beeps at me. Then I assigned the normal Begin/End Selection to Alt+Shift+B. From that moment on, it stopped beeping at me. Even if I restarted that fresh instance. If I go into a different program’s window (say, notepad.exe) and Alt+Shift+B, it will beep at me because of no such accelerator.

As far as I can tell, I don’t need to have ever assigned Alt+B to make Alt+Shift+B stop beeping.

Edit: and if I un-assign Alt+Shift+B in either instance of Notepad++, it starts beeping at me again.

Alan Kilborn

@PeterJones

Okay, I will have to do some more trials with the “beeping” thing…

While we’re on the topic of Begin/End Select … it is a great feature only missing one thing: Some type of visual indication that the “begin” has been done and the “end” is what is pending. Any agreement on that?

PeterJones

@Alan-Kilborn said in Remove columns from a file:

Any agreement on that?

++ I would be much more likely to train myself to use that feature – both in normal and column select modes – if I had such a status indicator.

Given that Scott recently updated the selection status section of the status bar, he might be convinced to add the Begin/End Selection state there, if someone were to suggest it to him.

Alan Kilborn

@PeterJones

My first thought was status bar as well, but in observing some of the “issue” discussion, there seems to be some opposition by the devs to ever altering what it shows.

I guess I mean by adding new fields; I have seen recent tweaks to the status bar for showing the current position – which is great for me as a PythonScript programmer, BTW – but some people have requested Zoom level on the status bar, which I find reasonable, and have been shot down, presumably because it would be a brand-new thing?

As an alternate to status bar, would it be reasonable to perhaps invert the colors of the line number margin, for example, in between “begin” and “end” select? I suppose not everyone has that margin turned on, although I find that unfathomable.

Uh oh, I think I just found a bug with Begin/End Select. It doesn’t restrict itself to the active tab – if you begin a select in one tab and end it in another, you get interesting results! :-)

prahladmifour

Hello,@Laurent
Please try these steps, To Remove columns from a file

Use Alt+Shift+navigation keys, or Alt+Shift+click to do a block select of just that column. Then simply press Del.

I hope this information will be useful to you.
Thank you.

Alan Kilborn

I created two new feature requests relating to keybinding for begin/end select functionality, related to some of the above discussion:

guy038

Hi, @alan-kilborn,

Why didn’t you choose the Alt + B shortcut for the Begin/End Select command, in your GitHub feature request ?

It would match nicely with the Alt + Shift + B shortcut for your future macro !?

BR

guy038

Alan Kilborn

@guy038 said in Remove columns from a file:

Why didn’t you choose the Alt + B shortcut for the Begin/End Select command ?

It is a possible choice, certainly.

I didn’t choose it because to me, Alt + letter means I’m opening a main menu category, i.e., Alt+f drops the File menu, Alt+s drops the Search menu, etc.

And, if I have to press Alt, I usually have to “find the key”, whereas Shift and/or Ctrl are just more naturally located.

Actually, from long Notepad++ usage, Alt in combination with Shift – for column mode selecting – is an “easy find” as well. But Alt by itself is harder for me.

So if I’m going to make a feature request, I take advantage of that and suggest things that work well for me!