Windows XP support being dropped...how do people feel?
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It appears that the devs are planning for 7.9.2 to be the last version of Notepad++ that will support Windows XP, see HERE.
For me, I don’t really care. Well, I care in the sense that I think some areas of N++ were “held back” in order to maintain compatibility with what really is an ancient OS.
But wasn’t this tried before?
And the user community got so “bent out of shape” about it that the devs recanted and continued XP support?So, I guess if people are going to get worked up about it, now is the time?
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Can you check with which O/S N++ is downloaded?
Depending on the amount of ancient Windows systems and the availability of a stable N++ release, support could be dropped.
For WinXP support ended 11 years ago, extended support ended 6 years ago, so if the used O/S is below 2% dropping WinXP support would be feasible.
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Windows XP was/is a great operating system (almost as good as Windows 2000) and I completely understand people who continue to use it. Guess that it is mostly on old computers that refuse to die.
But I don’t understand the contrast between sticking with an ancient os and insisting on latest and greatest text editor version.
With all due respect to the hard work being poured into Notepad++, older versions can edit text (or view logs) just fine.It would be nice if Notepad++ web site could put a link to last supported xp version with auto update disabled.
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@gstavi said in Windows XP support being dropped...how do people feel?:
With all due respect to the hard work being poured into Notepad++, older versions can edit text (or view logs) just fine.
There’s some wisdom here.
Yea, if you’re going to use an ancient OS that is no longer updated, why get all frazzled about not being able to have its latest version not run?
Thus: Run an old OS…run an old N++.
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@Alan-Kilborn XP is infinitely superior to all other operating systems for the desktop, despite it’s many flaws, which can & will eventually B fixed =) iWould happly pay $$$ 4 Notepad++ ‘recent versions’ if they would run on XP. I’m not going 2 torture myself & ruin the efficiency of all my work simply 2 get a ‘compatibility layer’ going. There is no good reason for any program to ever not run on Windows XP. For instance, the extremely complex ‘Reaper’ audio/media app (even can edit video with mods =) runs fine on XP & lots of other stuff. I can be reached at ‘balkanguy (at) live (dot) com’ for payment or other advice. ~>
Almost all ATM machines on Earth runs on XP, & most real businesses who need their computers 4 doing actual work, not just goofing around on ‘games’ or trying 2 ‘look trendy’ with the disgusting, confusing ‘flat’ layout & other bugs. From factories to power plants & all the rest, XP never stopped being used or supported. The ‘stats’ people C online R typically info from ‘web browser feedback’, but keep in mind people using XP fake the user agent string 2 keep fools from locking them out of web sites. I also find spoofing a cell phone gives a much faster & more convenient layout for Hotmail =) Some random cashier isn’t browsing the internet on Youtube giving stats about their browser at work. They’re not even online! LOL
Some more ideas here how to get around the deliberate sabotage of junk like Windows 10 & others ~>
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@Alan-Kilborn ghghg
My post was deleted because I highlighted a problem that the people running the forum want to hide, as if it lowers their ‘honor badge bragging rights’ or whatever. I’m simply here to help solve problems, because notepad++ is the best text editor, but far from perfect. I’m happy to pay for ‘the latest greatest version’ so long as it runs on XP. I use the ones atportableapps.com. Features I want include an ‘x’ by each item in the list pane on the left so easy to close, and ability to split the pane vertically so can view a document at multiple locations at once, & also the ability to run multiple copies of the program, rather than only one simultaneously. Deleting my posts & banning me doesn’t help fix the program. The ‘gang mentality’ of these fools is part of why software in general is much worse than it should be. You can reach me at ‘balkanguy (at) live (dot) com’ for specifics & payment(s), etc. I use this thing for doing actual work, not just goofing off. There are things that can make it more productive for us poeple doing actual business with actual computers running a real operating system, like XP, rather than slow buggy trash that came after. -
@bextrene said
My post was deleted
Your account has made two posts in its 3 hours of existence. Neither of them have been deleted.
If you previously had the “doodmanzy” account, whose post was deleted last summer, it was deleted because it was using obfuscated URLs to bypass the anti-spam links, violating Forum policy against spamming, and used horrible UzewRongLetTersANdcapTaliZation (maybe in some misguided attempt to bypass anti-spam, or maybe because AlLthEkeWlkIdsDoThAt) .
Since you seem offended that your post was deleted, I will re-instate the non-spam portions. But spamming external links – whether you are affiliated with those sites or not – is not allowed in the forum, ever.
I’m happy to pay for ‘the latest greatest version’ so long as it runs on XP. … There are things that can make it more productive for us poeple doing actual business with actual computers running a real operating system, like XP, rather than slow buggy trash that came after.
XP is outdated, insecure, and is and was just as buggy as any other Microsoft product – and more dangerous now, because MS specifically does not support it. If you actually cared about getting your work done, and not having bugs, you would use a modern, maintained linux distro, not anything that comes from MS.
I use the ones at
portableapps.com.I highly recommend against that. That website is known to change the code of Notepad++ before publishing binaries, and they do not explain what changes nor provide the source to their modified copy, thus violating the Notepad++ open source license.
Features I want include an ‘x’ by each item in the list pane on the left so easy to close,
Have you ever put in a feature request for that in the right place? If you don’t know where the right place is, we have a FAQ about that
and ability to split the pane vertically so can view a document at multiple locations at once,
View > Move/Clone Current Document > Clone to Other View, and then rotate your views to get them to be vertically stacked rather than horizontally stacked.
& also the ability to run multiple copies of the program, rather than only one simultaneously.
Settings > Preferences > Multi-Instance & Date > Always in Multi-Instance, or run with the
-multiInstcommand line argument.Deleting my posts & banning me doesn’t help fix the program.
Spam isn’t allowed. Sorry that offends you. Your arguments came years after the original post to revive a dead topic, looked like computer-generated or “1337 cod3r” nonsense, and contained lots of links, which made it look like it was not a genuine post but was just spam; since you claim you actually stand by the nonsense posted, I will let other people judge you for the content (though I deleted the spam, as those links were not productive for Notepad++ discussion)
The ‘gang mentality’ of these fools
It had nothing to do with gang mentality. I don’t care if you disagree with me; I just care if you make this forum worse by spamming links or hurling personal insults – one of which you did last august, and the other which you just did. By the way, calling someone a fool borders on ad hominem attack, which is also forbidden in the forum; but I personally can handle being called a fool, so I won’t ban you for that; but if you throw insults at anyone else, you will be banned again.
There are things that can make it more productive for us poeple doing actual business with actual computers running a real operating system, like XP, rather than slow buggy trash that came after.
Whine and complain all you want. But the Developer (who is not me) has made it clear that Notepad++ will never support XP again, for the simple reason that Microsoft no longer supports XP, and Notepad++ has added features that use API calls that are incompatible with XP – without reducing the feature set, it is now
impossibleimpractical for Notepad++ to support XP.And if you want to use an older version of Notepad++ that does still work on XP, you can look here, which says that v7.9.2 was the last version that worked on XP; and you can download the official version (not the portable apps nonsense) from the official website, where you can get an installable or a portable copy from the official source. But of course, you won’t be able to get feature upgrades beyond that version, because all versions after v7.9.2 use API calls that XP doesn’t support.
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@PeterJones said in Windows XP support being dropped...how do people feel?:
Notepad++ has added features that use API calls that are incompatible with XP
Out of curiosity, which specific features are these? That would probably factor heavily into how people feel about the support being dropped; if the features are ones that most XP users don’t use anyway, and the newer versions can still run on XP without them*, this shouldn’t be an issue for those users.
* obviously, I’m assuming that the newer installers will technically be capable of running on XP even though the software itself is not officially supported for it. Technically, NP++ isn’t designed for Linux either, but programs like Wine give users a means of making it work on that OS anyway. If XP users are simply placed in a similar boat, I don’t see this shift in support being an issue.
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I seem to recall something about the File Open or File SaveAs dialog box causing XP to be dropped.
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@Alan-Kilborn said in Windows XP support being dropped...how do people feel?:
I seem to recall something about the File Open or File SaveAs dialog box causing XP to be dropped.
That is a curious incompatibility; when running NP++ via Wine on Linux, there are dialogs for those workflows, but they don’t appear to be the usual (Nautilus-based?) ones that users typically see. If developers can figure out a way of making Linux-based file dialogs work with NP++, I’d be surprised if they can’t do the same for XP.
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@mathlete2 said:
If developers can figure out a way of making Linux-based file dialogs work with NP++,
Developers did nothing for Linux; the philosophy is that if the Windows-based software can run on Linux through a compatibility layer, then so be it. But no special coding is done for Linux.
I’d be surprised if they can’t do the same for XP.
At the risk of beating a dead horse: Developers aren’t putting effort into maintaining compatibility with this OS.
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@Alan-Kilborn said in Windows XP support being dropped...how do people feel?:
I seem to recall something about the File Open or File SaveAs dialog box causing XP to be dropped.
It happend in 7.9.3, the first version to stop loading file dialogs from the legacy
Comdlg32.dllin favour of the IFileDialog interface, introduced in Vista. Consequently, nothing older than Vista would have the required system DLLs.The WINE subsystem might still work, however, since WINE is cobbled together from open source re-implementations of Microsoft libraries, and the XP code is probably available somewhere as it doesn’t have any commercial value these days.
By now N++ has even left Vista behind. It seems no one cared very much, but then Vista had a terrible reputation relative to XP.
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@Alan-Kilborn said in Windows XP support being dropped...how do people feel?:
Developers did nothing for Linux; (…) [they] aren’t putting effort into maintaining compatibility with this OS.
To clarify, I was referring to Wine developers, not NP++ developers. Any XP compatibility would have to come from the XP community; if Linux users can figure out how to adapt Windows software to work on Linux, XP users should be able to figure out how to adapt newer Windows software to XP.
