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    • PeterJonesP
      PeterJones @José Luis Montero Castellanos
      last edited by PeterJones

      @José-Luis-Montero-Castellanos ,

      <Command name="Command description" Ctrl="no" Alt="yes" Shift="no" Key="116">C:\directory\browser.exe C:\directory\document.htm</Command>
      

      No! Please no! That’s exactly what the JHV was complaining about. You do NOT want to have to make a separate shortcut for every single file you might ever open in your browser!

      The syntax I showed, where the Run command used is "c:\path to\browser\browser.exe" "$(FULL_CURRENT_PATH)" , is 100% the answer that @Clyde-Darby should use.

      By using the Run dialog’s Save button, Clyde won’t have to go mucking about in the shortcuts.xml – you can just save the shortcut after pasting it into the field and then hitting Save and giving it a meaningful name.
      eebd7724-a019-404f-afa4-241c6c126c9f-image.png
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      (The Save->Shortcut dialog even allows you to pick the keyboard shortcut. Which is again, so much easier than the mucking about in shortcuts.xml.)

      You continue,

      There may be $(CURRENT_FILE) to refer to the current or visible document in Npp… you just need to have saved it.

      That’s half true. But $(CURRENT_FILE) does not contain the full path to the file. And browser.exe cannot know what the “current directory” is for Notepad++. So if you tried that, browser.exe would complain that it couldn’t find document.htm. To get around that, use the $(FULL_CURRENT_PATH) variable that I already showed. And the quotes are put around it because $(FULL_CURRENT_PATH) may have spaces in it

      All the $(...) variables available to the Run menu are described in the usermanual here.

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      • José Luis Montero CastellanosJ
        José Luis Montero Castellanos @PeterJones
        last edited by José Luis Montero Castellanos

        @PeterJones
        You are right you cannot create a command for each document, I just put it as an example, which I adjusted by referring to the variable $(CURRENT_FILE). And I’m glad to get the clarification regarding the use of “$(FULL_CURRENT_PATH)”. I thought to edit it so as not to confuse, or leave it as it is with the inaccuracy, so that your comment and mine make sense and be honest.

        We always learn something. :)

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        • PeterJonesP
          PeterJones @José Luis Montero Castellanos
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          @José-Luis-Montero-Castellanos said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

          I thought to edit it so as not to confuse, or leave it as it is with the inaccuracy,

          It is generally considered rude to change the meaning of a post after people have replied to that post. Please do not change that previous post at this point.

          so that your comment and mine make sense

          This is one of the reasons that it’s considered rude to change a post that has replies: changing the meaning of a conversation is a bad idea, because it will confuse all future readers (including you, when you come back days or weeks or months later and wonder why someone replied the way they did when you’ve forgotten that you edited it)

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          • José Luis Montero CastellanosJ
            José Luis Montero Castellanos @PeterJones
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            @PeterJones
            Understood… :¬)

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            • JHV JHVJ
              JHV JHV @PeterJones
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              @PeterJones …I understand the difference between the two : C:\directory\browser.exe C:\directory\document.htm -and- c:\path to\browser\browser.exe" "$(FULL_CURRENT_PATH)

              “?” meaning -> the “best practice” is to let users choose their default browser (under “View Current File In”) and not to micromanage browser choice which seems to be the main argument for the “Run”-thing. It’s the “logic” which eludes me! Why would a thing e.g. like “Use Default Browser” have to be emulated by the “Run” command…?
              Now, I didn’t read any of all this EU-FOSSA crap… but you don’t honestly believe that the EU actually advocates for using IE in the year 2022… do you :-?

              Correct me if I’m wrong here, but IE was completely removed in Windows 11…? You already got MS-Edge to somewhat emulate the behavior of IE, if needed…?
              IE ought to be replaced by “Use Default Browser” - and you would pretty much cover most browser cases, used today, and in the easiest manner there is!
              There are probably other people struggling with this too…

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              • Alan KilbornA
                Alan Kilborn
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                Reference:

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                It certainly seems reasonable that a “Default Application” choice could be added above Firefox, perhaps with a menu separator between the two.

                One of Notepad++'s strengths is that it will run on older systems, and perhaps a lot of these older systems have IE or even Firefox on them. So it does no harm to keep these menu entries.

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                • PeterJonesP
                  PeterJones @JHV JHV
                  last edited by PeterJones

                  @JHV-JHV said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

                  but you don’t honestly believe that the EU actually advocates for using IE in the year 2022… do you :-?

                  You don’t honestly believe I said that, do you?

                  You are fighting at strawmen, and not listening to my replies. After this post, I am done with this discussion.

                  IE ought to be replaced by “Use Default Browser”

                  Like Alan, I think “Use Default Browser” should be added to the list. But for that to happen, someone would have to make a polite feature request in the right location.

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                  • José Luis Montero CastellanosJ
                    José Luis Montero Castellanos @JHV JHV
                    last edited by José Luis Montero Castellanos

                    @JHV-JHV
                    Greetings from Colombia:

                    IE ought to be replaced by “Use Default Browser” -

                    Totally agree, if my preferred browser “then the default” is called let’s say “Anonymous” and other users’ “defaults” have 15 different names , an option like this would cover them all!, including IE for older systems.

                    Now if I need a range of browsers to see IF my page is displayed in each of them, (matter that seemed to me the essence of this request for help!) then the use of RUN command is a good option, but I think it is less extensive. Since the leftover and contiguous keyboard shortcuts are reduced, not listed and memorizing them is not simple.

                    Another option would be that the list in View > view current file in… be more extensive or editable (expandable), but including Default Browser… (NOTE: it is not a request!!!).

                    Personal opinion: That is why traditional browsers that claim to respect our privacy, are the first to violate it, updating when they feel like it, for example.

                    Have a nice day and success…

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                    • Alan KilbornA
                      Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
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                      @PeterJones said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

                      Like Alan, I think “Use Default Browser” should be added to the list

                      Note that Alan didn’t say Default Browser, Alan said Default Application.

                      While apparently this View Current File in top-level menu has been used for browsers in the past, not everyone edits html or other web content.

                      Default Application would be the equivalent of what happens when one invokes the Run dialog like this:

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                      • Alan KilbornA
                        Alan Kilborn
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                        I think “Use Default Browser” should be added to the list

                        Default Application would be the equivalent of what happens when one invokes the Run dialog like this…

                        There’s also:

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                        which, for a .html or other “web file” associated with a browser, would effectively be “Open in Default Browser”.

                        So, developers would probably push back (as redundant) on adding “Use Default Browser” to the View Current File in menu.

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                        • Patrick 909P
                          Patrick 909 @PeterJones
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                          @PeterJones

                          perfect!

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                          • Bob BridgesB
                            Bob Bridges @Patrick 909
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                            @Patrick-909

                            And keyboard shortcuts can be assigned to menu commands by choosing run > modify shortcut and switch to the Main Menu tab on the Shortcut Mapper.

                            It would be good to have the Open in Default Browser be located in either the View or Run Menus, but creating a shortcut works for me.

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                            • James Burke 0J
                              James Burke 0
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                              Notepad++ is actually two completely different editors in one, thereby making some chores unnecessarily complicated. What I’m seeing is that the HTML editor with the “View file in . . .” is a fundamentally different tool than an NPP used for editing Python (or C or Pascal or . . .) files. For HTML files, it always works, and it’s exceptionally useful.

                              However, NPP used for other languages is a real pain since it’s buggy and erratic, and comes with that horrid “Language” tool which fails more times than it works.

                              Is it too much to hope for that NPP could be separated into an HTML/PHP/Javascript editor and an editor for “all the others”? Then maybe some effort could be put into fixing up a separate “all the other languages” version?

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                              • PeterJonesP
                                PeterJones @James Burke 0
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                                @James-Burke-0 said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

                                Notepad++ is actually two completely different editors in one,

                                If you want to maintain that it’s one editor with two different purposes, I can see how someone could make that argument… but I fundamentally disagree even with that. But to claim it’s really two merged editors together is (IMO) completely undefensible.

                                It is designed as a programmer’s file editor, useful for exiting plaintext and any text-based source code you want.

                                thereby making some chores unnecessarily complicated.

                                What chores? Be specific.

                                What I’m seeing is that the HTML editor with the “View file in . . .” is a fundamentally different tool than an NPP used for editing Python (or C or Pascal or . . .) files. For HTML files, it always works, and it’s exceptionally useful.

                                And then you go and say the opposite of what I expect you to say, based on your introductory assertion. From my experience, in seeing nearly a decade of complaints and questions here, the biggest complaint from people who want to edit HTML in Notepad++ is that the extra step of having to launch an external browser is an onerous task, and they complain that they really want Notepad++ to be a WYSIWYG editor, which it is never going to be: their complaint is exactly the opposite of yours, namely, that because it’s not WYSIWYG, it’s not a good HTML editor.

                                However, NPP used for other languages is a real pain since it’s buggy and erratic,

                                Be specific. I love coding in languages other than HTML in Notepad++ , and I haven’t seen anything that would make me claim it’s “buggy and erratic” for everything but HTML.

                                and comes with that horrid “Language” tool which fails more times than it works.

                                What do you mean by the “Language” tool? The Language menu is a list of about 90 different programming languages which Notepad++ can syntax highlight right out of the box. There might be a few quirks in a couple of those 90 languages, but all-in-all, it’s a great experience for the syntax highlighting.

                                If you’re talking about the User Defined Language feature, where you add keywords and style definitions, then I would say it works great for the simple cases (ie, simple keywords and operators), but does have limitations if you are trying to do complex syntax highlighting. But with 90 languages defined in such a way that you don’t need to do UDL for them (including the C or Pascal that you specifically enumerated), so the UDL won’t affect you for that.

                                If you’re talking about the lack of modern LSP (“Language Server Protocol”) support, so that it could behave more like VS/VSCode: true, it doesn’t have native LSP support, but there’s at least one plugin that implements an LSP client for Notepad++: NppLspClient. The app developer has never shown an interest in adding native LSP support to Notepad++, because he likes the current keyword-based language system

                                which fails more times than it works.

                                So what specific failures are you talking about? I would absolutely disagree with that assessment, after having used Notepad++ specifically for its language features for more than 15 years. So my experience is apparently very different than yours.

                                Is it too much to hope for that NPP could be separated into an HTML/PHP/Javascript editor and an editor for “all the others”?

                                That would be awful. I only want to use one text editor, and I want it to work right, whether I’m in HTML/PHP/Javascript or in Perl or Python or C++. That’s what Notepad++ is, for me.

                                Then maybe some effort could be put into fixing up a separate “all the other languages” version?

                                What specific effort do you think has been ignored, regarding “all the other languages”. (And, in fact, in my experience, I’ve seen very little effort put into anything related to HTML/PHP/JS, and instead most of the effort is in other things.)

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                                • James Burke 0J
                                  James Burke 0
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                                  Thanks for the vigorous response. You raise some interesting points. However, I don’t see the benefits you mention, especially the Language tool. I don’t know anyone who needs 90 different languages. And the languages I use aren’t on the list! My experience is that it simply doesn’t work at all, and has never worked regardless of updates. It only produces black text on a white background, and no amount of mucking with it ever produces any other result. The only useful editing tools are the hi-lighting of HTML “pairs”, the instant “View” tool, and the ability to work on 20 different files at one time. To me, it’s more useful than Tiny MCE or even VSCode. I’m now using v8.6.7, and have used NPP continuously for at least 15 years. It hasn’t changed one bit for the better in over 10 years. The GUP updater to v8.8.5 simply crashes - which doesn’t surprise me.

                                  However, for the little that does work properly, it’s excellent for what it does.

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                                  • PeterJonesP
                                    PeterJones @James Burke 0
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                                    @James-Burke-0 said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

                                    I don’t know anyone who needs 90 different languages.

                                    But everybody has a different list of N languages that they do want. And the list of 90 contains all the “major players” in modern software development, except maybe some up-and-comers. So it handles most of what most people want, even though it will never handle all of what all people want.

                                    And the languages I use aren’t on the list!

                                    And yet you give no examples. Notice that my post asked you to be explicit, rather than vague.

                                    The Notepad++ User Defined Languages Collection repo has about 300 pre-defined UDL (User Defined Languages) that are available for download, so if the 90 built-in languages aren’t enough, there’s a non-zero chance that one or more of the 300 UDL available are for the language(s) that you need that aren’t built into Notepad++. If downloading the UDL yourself is too difficult, I created the CollectionInterface plugin which automates downloading and installing the UDL (and its associated autoCompletion and functionList definitions, if they have been published as well – though, for now, installing the functionList still takes some manual intervention on your part to edit the overrideMap)

                                    My experience is that it simply doesn’t work at all, and has never worked regardless of updates.

                                    But that’s demonstrably false. So we are at an impasse, because you refuse to do anything but make vague assertions.

                                    To do more than make an assertion, here are some examples, using a fresh unzip of the portable 8.8.5, so that it has the most up-to-date version of the default stylers.xml theme, trying a handful of coding languages, from “old stand bys” like c++ and perl, to the modern "go to"s of python and rust, to a more esoteric language (but long lived) like verilog:

                                    • c++
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                                    • perl 166407af-8fa5-454c-8034-859470464b12-image.png
                                    • python 1c7b5efd-3fac-43a7-98e7-ff59b84104e8-image.png
                                    • rust f104af94-5b23-439d-8fa0-2975902526cd-image.png
                                    • verilog 645cbcdd-3737-4939-beb6-a6046db52785-image.png

                                    Notepad++ handles them all just fine, out of the box, not “black text on a white background” like you assert.

                                    It only produces black text on a white background, and no amount of mucking with it ever produces any other result.

                                    Could be the fault of your chosen theme, and the specific language – not all themes have all 90 languages defined. And some themes have been updated over time: so if you had an old version of the theme which you customized, it would not be overwritten, because the notepad++ updater doesn’t overwrite customized themes, on the chance that it might lose your customizations. I have written and released the ConfigUpdater plugin, which safely updates all your themes without losing customization, so that they have all the languages at least mimimally defined, so that they can be updated to your liking in the Style Configurator

                                    If you shared (1) what language you are having difficulty with, (2) what Theme you have selected in the style configurator, (3) which style(s) you assert always show as black-on-white even when you change the styles (with associated screenshots), and (4) your ?-menu’s Debug Info, then someone might be able to help you. Without detailed information, effectively all that will happen is you will try to vent your steam, but nothing will improve for you.

                                    It hasn’t changed one bit for the better in over 10 years.

                                    I vehemently disagree. It was awesome then, and it’s even better now.

                                    The GUP updater to v8.8.5 simply crashes - which doesn’t surprise me.

                                    the GUP updater has nothing to update if you’re in v8.8.5, so I very much doubt it’s doing much, other than checking the network. So either your copy of gup.exe still has the “mark of the web” on it (you can check/fix that by right-clicking on gup.exe, and if it has that windows message that it might be unsafe, you have to check the checkbox to tell windows that it is being paranoid); and if you have a firewall or other such thing preventing gup.exe from doing its online version check. But I wouldn’t expect either of those to “crash” the GUP updater… does it give a popup saying there’s been a crash or exception?

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                                    • James Burke 0J
                                      James Burke 0 @PeterJones
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                                      @PeterJones NPP Screenshots.jpg

                                      Thanks for your patience with my grumpy post. Anyway, here’s two typical screens, both somewhat HTML, typical of the plain-jane, black-on-white NPP file edits on v8.8.5. Everything works, except it’s incredibly dull and tedious. What’s useful is the “View” tab for instant views, and the fact that I can keep about a dozen files open at any one time. The rest is so useless, it’s annoying. Which is astonishing for the amount of work that has apparently been put into it.

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                                        Alan Kilborn @James Burke 0
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                                        @James-Burke-0 said:

                                        Everything works, except it’s incredibly dull and tedious. … The rest is so useless, it’s annoying. Which is astonishing for the amount of work that has apparently been put into it.

                                        Gosh. Luckily, your experience is different than almost every other Notepad++ user.

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                                        • PeterJonesP
                                          PeterJones @James Burke 0
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                                          @James-Burke-0 said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

                                          Thanks for your patience with my grumpy post.

                                          I’m glad you think I’m being patient.

                                          Anyway, here’s two typical screens, both somewhat HTML, typical of the plain-jane, black-on-white NPP file edits on v8.8.5. Everything works, except it’s incredibly dull and tedious.

                                          You didn’t answer some of my 4 questions: maybe you didn’t see them. So I’ll make sure it’s obvious for the most important questions:

                                          2. What theme are you using?

                                          In case you don’t know how to check that: Settings > Style Configurator, what does Select Theme say?

                                          4. What does your ?-menu’s Debug Info say?

                                          This is important, beause it tells me where to ask you to look for files. Without that information, I would just be guessing, and I would have to give a long, detailed description of where to look, and you’d just completely ignore it.

                                          The rest is so useless, it’s annoying.

                                          You messed up your configuration at some point, to get it to not render PHP and HTML as per normal, because a fresh copy of Notpead++, without your baggage (ie, pre-existing, messed up config files), works perfectly for syntax highlighting those languages. I can prove this to you quite easily:

                                          1. Make sure all instances of your installed Notepad++ are exited (not just hidden, exit out of the application)
                                          2. Go to https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/v8.8.5/ and download the portable zip v8.8.5 64bit
                                          3. right click on the zipfile, and if it shows something like the following:
                                            421c7557-db23-45fe-a30d-b920f59f4015-image.png
                                            … then checkmark Unblock and then click Apply
                                          4. Unzip the zipfile to a directory you have write permission (maybe even your desktop)
                                          5. Run the notepad++.exe from that unzipped directory
                                          6. Make NO configuration changes
                                          7. Open your PHP or HTML file, and see it in all its pretty colors.

                                          Here’s an example when I went through that process:
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                                          Doing that should be enough to prove to you that it’s just your current setup that’s messed up, not the app. And then maybe, just maybe, you’ll give us enough information to be able to help you, step by step, through the process of fixing your installation, so that it will correctly syntax highlight.

                                          Which is astonishing for the amount of work that has apparently been put into it.

                                          You’ve put an astonishing about of work into complaining, without giving us the information we’ve asked you to provide, which will help us to help you fix your bad configuration. It’s not the app, but your configuration, which has problems. It’s fixable, if you’re willing to put in a tiny bit of effort to something productive.

                                          At this point, it’s your choice. Either (A) continue to complain without answering the questions; or (B) answer my questions #2 and #4, and maybe even follow through with the simple proof of using the portable Notepad++ to show yourself that it’s your configuration, not Notepad++ itself, that is having difficulty with syntax highlighting. (I know which of those two I would prefer you to choose; and, unfortunately, my guess is that you’ll choose the other.)

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                                          • James Burke 0J
                                            James Burke 0
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                                            @PeterJones said in View...How do I add browsers, so that I may run a program from different browsers.:

                                            what Theme you have selected in the style configurator,

                                            This tool is non-functional. Themes are visible, but the selector is greyed-out. Honest! I’ve tried them all many times, but it leads nowhere. There is no clue as to what to do to fix it. I believe that it works for you, but I’ve never been able to sort it out. I don’t know what is the “ConfigUpdater plugin”, or where to find it. That one is new to me.

                                            FWIW, I’ve done everything you suggested, Style Configurator, etc, uploaded screenshots

                                            In addition, here is my Debug Info:

                                            Notepad++ v8.8.5 (64-bit)
                                            Build time: Aug 14 2025 - 00:32:39
                                            Scintilla/Lexilla included: 5.5.7/5.4.5
                                            Boost Regex included: 1_85
                                            Path: C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe
                                            Command Line:
                                            Admin mode: OFF
                                            Local Conf mode: OFF
                                            Cloud Config: OFF
                                            Periodic Backup: ON
                                            Placeholders: OFF
                                            Scintilla Rendering Mode: SC_TECHNOLOGY_DIRECTWRITE (1)
                                            Multi-instance Mode: monoInst
                                            asNotepad: OFF
                                            File Status Auto-Detection: cdEnabledNew (for current file/tab only)
                                            Dark Mode: OFF
                                            Display Info:
                                            primary monitor: 1920x1080, scaling 100%
                                            visible monitors count: 1
                                            installed Display Class adapters:
                                            0000: Description - Intel® HD Graphics 530
                                            0000: DriverVersion - 30.0.101.1692
                                            0001: Description - NVIDIA GeForce GT 740
                                            0001: DriverVersion - 27.21.14.5671
                                            OS Name: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
                                            OS Version: 22H2
                                            OS Build: 19045.6332
                                            Current ANSI codepage: 1252
                                            Plugins: none

                                            It tells me nothing that I don’t know already.

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