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    • Mark OlsonM
      Mark Olson @Snabel42
      last edited by Mark Olson

      @Snabel42
      Hi, I’m the JsonTools developer. Sorry to hear there was an error! Can you create an issue in my repository?

      I tried downloading it with the plugins manager using both the 32bit and 64bit Notepad++ 8.5.0’s, and I got no error message and the installation went fine.

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      • Snabel42S
        Snabel42 @Mark Olson
        last edited by

        @Mark-Olson dang. I tried a clean portable install, but that did not replicate it.

        I extracted 8.4.9 64bit portable, ran the exe, installed JSON Tools with Plugin Admin, opend the plugin settings, saved settings, closed notepad++, extracted 8.5.0 RC over the existing folder, rand the exe, upgrades JSON Tools with plugin admin. No error

        I’ll try using the installer later today, but… I have to figure out the right command line to try to isolate that install I suppose.

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        • Snabel42S
          Snabel42 @Snabel42
          last edited by

          @Snabel42 could not reproduce using the installer to upgrade to 8.5 either. Not sure what else to try at this point.

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          • rddimR
            rddim
            last edited by rddim

            @donho
            There are two issues about storing of cyrillic in config.xml and shortcuts.xml
            The first one - #13221 is a regression from v8.4.9.
            The second one - #13222 comes from unknown for me version

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            • Raccoon's HitsR
              Raccoon's Hits @donho
              last edited by

              @donho said in Notepad++ v8.5 Release Candidate:

              Add show non-printable characters command.

              Hey guys. I tried out this new feature, because as I was looking thru the list, it kinda jumpt out at me as something I’ve always wanted to be able to do. But…I still see white-on-black little boxes that say SOH, DC3, etc. in some of my log files. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

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              • Alan KilbornA
                Alan Kilborn @Raccoon's Hits
                last edited by

                @Raccoon-s-Hits

                So what you are saying is that you clicked on the menu item here to remove the checkmark:

                ea5abc6a-2f82-48b9-b550-4fe8dc04864f-image.png

                And after you did that you still saw something like this in your editor tab:

                cc61960d-9288-48d9-b7b7-dea94dd412f6-image.png

                Indeed it is true. The target for the command appears to be some characters that have never before had a visual component in Notepad++, not the characters in your file.

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                • donhoD
                  donho @rddim
                  last edited by

                  @rddim said in Notepad++ v8.5 Release Candidate:

                  @donho
                  There are two issues about storing of cyrillic in config.xml and shortcuts.xml
                  The first one - #13221 is a regression from v8.4.9.
                  The second one - #13222 comes from unknown for me version

                  I will take a look at both issues. But none of them is regression.

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                  • donhoD
                    donho @Raccoon's Hits
                    last edited by

                    @Raccoon-s-Hits

                    But…I still see white-on-black little boxes that say SOH, DC3, etc. in some of my log files. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

                    Here you can find the definition of non-printable characters:
                    https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/commit/aaab190763b720e2eed6495d8508b970d09ad39c

                    and this definition will be in Notepad++ User Manual once v8.5 is released.

                    Other people (including me) appreciate this feature because it can save devs & IT people’s life by identifying the invisible characters for their debugging purpose.

                    Surely you can complain about it, but not here - this thread is for reporting the regression and critical issues.

                    Thank you for your understanding.

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                    • conky77C
                      conky77
                      last edited by conky77

                      Changing the Language (localization), some translations are not updated:

                      • (new bug)preferences–>editing, the hint of the new buttons “?” (actually the button “…” in the same window has the same problem)

                      • (old bug)preferences–>performances “?” has the same problem

                      fe397aa9-8abd-4983-9dad-c6fbe6a58a21-immagine.png

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                      • PeterJonesP
                        PeterJones @conky77
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                        • Raccoon's HitsR
                          Raccoon's Hits
                          last edited by

                          clicked on the menu item here to remove the checkmark

                          Yes, thats correct.
                          I did not express well what I tried, sorry.

                          Here you can find the definition of non-printable characters

                          Hfmpfh, well maybe, thats YOUR definition.
                          But why dont we assume a definition that follows a standard, yes?

                          [ Then complainers like me won’t have complaints. Truly, saying one is disappointed is far removed from complaint, unless the reader is over sensitive on such matter ]

                          I found the characters in my log file here, in English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_character
                          Before you jump over the link as being the ‘wrong thing’, see that content says ‘“Non-printable character” redirects here.’
                          More quoting: ‘In computing and telecommunication, a control character or non-printing character (NPC) is (something)…that does not represent a written symbol’

                          So if you are calling your feature ‘Show Non-Printing Characters’ then when the feature is off, NPC should not be shown. But in your software, at least some NPC (mine) are shown in this conditional state.

                          So, is solution simple? Change the name of your feature so it is accurate to what it does. Should be easy and done.
                          Or, change behaviour to match command description. Maybe this way is not so easy?
                          Either way produces no disappoints, no complaints.

                          this thread is for reporting the regression and critical issues

                          If you are going to redefine wrongly what standard terms mean, in your software…is that not a critical issue?
                          It means nothing to me what you do, Im just trying to help from what I can see.

                          Thank you for the rest of the software and new features in 8.5!
                          Greetings from The Raccoon!

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                          • PeterJonesP
                            PeterJones @conky77
                            last edited by

                            @conky77 ,

                            I actually see the opposite of what your screenshot shows: Even if I pick a language (like Italian) which has the <npcNote-tip value="..."> set, it always shows me the English for the hover text, as shown below, with Italian (including a the italian.xml showing that text has a translation).

                            436a3d96-342f-40de-87a8-81b39ce37331-image.png

                            But I do agree that Notepad++ isn’t correctly showing the translation of that new piece of text.

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                            • donhoD
                              donho @conky77
                              last edited by

                              @conky77 said in Notepad++ v8.5 Release Candidate:

                              Changing the Language (localization), some translations are not updated:

                              There are few items’ translation will change after restart Notepad++, tips are part of them.

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                              • conky77C
                                conky77 @donho
                                last edited by conky77

                                @donho said in Notepad++ v8.5 Release Candidate:

                                There are few items’ translation will change after restart Notepad++, tips are part of them.

                                It is not a “must”, but a comment in general ->“localization” could be useful: “* some strings will be updated after restarting Notepad++”.
                                If you agree, I can insert an issue.

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                                • donhoD
                                  donho @conky77
                                  last edited by

                                  @conky77

                                  It is not a “must”, but a comment in general ->“localization” could be useful: “* some strings will be updated after restarting Notepad++”.
                                  If you agree, I can insert an issue.

                                  It’s surely a limit but it’s not a bug to me. Users usually decide the language during installation. Even they switch later, the same language will stay for the next session. I won’t make the tips dynamically because it needs a lot of coding effort for nothing.

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