Hide Fold Lines

wonkawilly

I am getting black lines in n++ 853 portable and I think that as a feature not as an issue: in fact I like the rows because they separate folded sections of the same file allowing to spot them easily as if they where margins or just separators.

Look at the following screenshots for example: for me it is a very good thing.
But maybe an option to disable them if some users don’t want them maybe would be also appreciated as the possibility to style them with custom colors and lines type. But I love them, in principle.

Victorel Petrovich

@Alan-Kilborn said in Hide Fold Lines:

If the plugin didn’t exist to provide the checkbox, users would just “grudgingly accept” the fold indication lines, and there’d be nothing to talk about here.

Not necessarily … there are other editors out there that are able to hide those same annoying lines.

@Dave-Bleja and whoever might benefit:

Luckily, it’s not hard to finish up dinkumoil’s hack above with NppExec. I have just found and followed
https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/topic/16484/how-can-i-hide-the-horizontal-lines-that-appear-when-i-fold-a-block/12?_=1690089965676,
with the obvious replacement of the specific commands to run.
For 1st step, the option in that “(menu) Plugins -> NppExec” is called “Execute NppExec Script … (F6)”. Then in “Advanced options” of that NppExec plugin there is indeed a place where you can select the created script to run at startup.

Victorel Petrovich

@Alan-Kilborn said in Hide Fold Lines:

Summary:
What’s missing is a way for the typical user to configure:

on/off for the fold line that extends across the user’s view area when blocks are folded (and this, if it existed, probably makes your whole issue a non-issue)
the color of that fold line (obviously only meaningful when that line is configured to be on)
on/off for the “lines are hidden here” line that extends across the user’s view area when lines are hidden
the color of that “lines are hidden here” line (obviously only meaningful when that line is configured to be on)

I totally agree, FWIW, and just want to suggest that as a built-in solution (rather than via pluggins), easier to implement than GUI, a configuration file with a list of parameters to set like:

ShowFoldLine=1; # other value possible : 0

Which will include such extra settings that don’t have (yet or never will) a GUI entry somewhere in Settings.
I’ve seen it work in Geany edior, which in particular does have the option this way to hide those folding lines (and some other things I used).

Alan Kilborn

@Victorel-Petrovich said in Hide Fold Lines:

just want to suggest that

If you read the FAQ you’ll learn that suggestions don’t go here.

a configuration file with a list of parameters to set like:
ShowFoldLine=1; # other value possible : 0

Which will include such extra settings that don’t have (yet or never will) a GUI entry somewhere in Settings.

There is already something a bit like this in Notepad++, with either the presence / absence of a specially named zero-length file (e.g. doLocalConfig.xml or enableSelectFgColor.xml ) controlling things, or special tags in a file like config.xml (e.g. regexBackward4PowerUser tag) that have no UI-controlling component and must be hand-edited if used.

I’ve seen it work in Geany edior, which in particular does have the option this way to hide those folding lines (and some other things I used).

I think the Scintilla demo editor, SciTE, controls things in a similar manner.

Victorel Petrovich

@Alan-Kilborn said in Hide Fold Lines:

If you read the FAQ you’ll learn that suggestions don’t go here.

Sure, but it was an informal one… and you broke that “rule” yourself when writing that list of suggestions.

the presence / absence of a specially named zero-length file (e.g. doLocalConfig.xml or enableSelectFgColor.xml ) controlling things, or special tags in a file like config.xml (e.g. regexBackward4PowerUser tag) that have no UI-controlling component and must be hand-edited if used.

The latter would be better than the former (imagine dozens of files in that folder for such little style settings ! ).

Yep, SciTE and textadept and SublimeText and many other editors.

PeterJones

@Victorel-Petrovich said in Hide Fold Lines:

@Alan-Kilborn said in Hide Fold Lines:

If you read the FAQ you’ll learn that suggestions don’t go here.

Sure, but it was an informal one… and you broke that “rule” yourself when writing that list of suggestions.

I wish people would understand that when Alan or myself or any of the other regulars point someone to that FAQ, it isn’t supposed to mean “discussion done”. It means that we are trying to inform them or remind them that no matter how much we discuss a potential new feature in the Community, it will not be considered for implementation until a feature is raised in the issue tracker. I guess I need to rework the introduction to that FAQ to make that more obvious.

the presence / absence of a specially named zero-length file (e.g. doLocalConfig.xml or enableSelectFgColor.xml ) controlling things, or special tags in a file like config.xml (e.g. regexBackward4PowerUser tag) that have no UI-controlling component and must be hand-edited if used.

Yep, SciTE and textadept and SublimeText and many other editors.

And Notepad++.

The latter would be better than the former (imagine dozens of files in that folder for such little style settings ! ).

both are used in Notepad++ currently: the ones that Alan mentioned for file-based triggers, and “hidden” config.xml preferences for advanced users like the ones for backward regex searches, find/replace history length, and the commandLineInterpreter setting which allows picking cmd.exe vs powershell.exe vs <insert favorite alternate CLI for Windows here>

(doLocalConfig.xml cannot be done via the config.xml file, because the result of the logic it triggers determines where Notepad++ searches for config.xml, which would be a rather catch-22 situation. But I don’t see any reason why enableSelectFgColor.xml and nppLogNulContentCorruptionIssue.xml and v852NoNeedShortcutsBackup.xml and even asNotepad.xml couldn’t have been implemented as hidden settings all in config.xml.)

PeterJones

@PeterJones said in Hide Fold Lines:

I guess I need to rework the introduction to that FAQ to make that more obvious

It now says,

Being directed to this FAQ does not mean “end of discussion”. It is solely to inform you of these facts for the first time, or to remind you of them if you’ve previously seen them. You are allowed and even encouraged to discuss new features ideas or potential bugs found in the Community, as long as you understand that a discussion in this Community Forum is not the same as making an official Feature Request or Bug Report.

Victorel Petrovich

@PeterJones said in Hide Fold Lines:

I wish people would understand that when Alan or myself or any of the other regulars point someone to that FAQ, it isn’t supposed to mean “discussion done”. It means that we are trying to inform them or remind them that no matter how much we discuss a potential new feature in the Community, it will not be considered for implementation until a feature is raised in the issue tracker.

OK Peter, but to me he sounded rather blunt / rejecting, saying suggestions don’t go here. He could have said " hey, as said in FAQ, don’t hope for things to get done just by suggesting here" , or something like that.
So, he got what he asked for, so to speak. Not that I’m upset, and hope he understood too and move on.

In fact, if you think about it, what I suggested there could not really be made into an issue on github, because it was only a sort of tip that is only relevant in case he (or other developer) was going to implement any of HIS suggestions in that list about lines.

So, yeah, it was a “suggestion” (in the general sense of the word) but not an independent feature request. More like a comment one the way he (or others) could implement those features… After submitting a proper issue on github. Not here. ;) :)

Victorel Petrovich

@dinkumoil said in Hide Fold Lines:

Why do we need a folding line and a hidden line, seemingly drawn onto each other? If we would have the hidden line only it would be clear, but this way …

Of course they should not be drawn onto each other.
But, as a user, I can see why it’s good to have them both: sometimes you want to hide the fold lines, and not the non-fold lines.

For example, if the code is deeply nested and indented, and you fold some of the fold-points, then the long fold-lines distract from the hierarchical structure. ( I like the alternative markers you show in your picture above )

But not so with some arbitrary fragment of the file that you choose to hide - there the line marker is rather welcome, IMO.

leonardchai

@EvilEpicPanda

Hi, I made a “FoldingLineHider” Plugin.
Now you can use it on recent notepad++ versions.

( Not important details: )
As you guys mentioned above, FoldingLineHider used SETFOLDFLAG before v8.5, and after v8.5.1 the green line problem has appeared. So I fixed it to set transparency of the folding line, and now it works well again.

I didn’t know the history of this behavior and didn’t read this thread. :) And now i understand what happened. :)

Anyway now i read this thread, so i mention my plugin FoldingLineHider. Please try it if you still need this feature.

Alan Kilborn

@leonardchai said in Hide Fold Lines:

I made a “FoldingLineHider” Plugin.

Hmm, so WHERE does one find this plugin?

Ivan

To “hide” the folding lines, one can change the “Foreground colour” of the “Default Style”.

Go to “Settings” -> “Style Configurator…”
Select “Global Styles” in “Language” list
Select “Default Style” in “Style”
Click on the “Foreground colour” at the right side of the pane ( inside “Colour Style” area )
Select white color
Click on “Save & Close”

PeterJones

@Ivan ,

In what way do you think this answers the original request (from more than a year ago)? Because you are just setting the default color to be white-on-white – that has nothing to do with the “fold lines” that this discussion is about, and would just make some random text in some languages, and all text in a .txt file, not visible. But that has nothing to do with the little green lines under the folded section of code that was originally asked about.

oldskoolmatt

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oldskoolmatt

@Alan-Kilborn here is the plugin: (i cannot post links yet)

github.com/leonardchai/FoldingLineHider/tree/master

Just tested on v8.7 and it works as intended.

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