[New plugin] Columns++

[Coises]

@wonkawilly said in [New plugin] Columns++:

Is it a feature/wanted behavior?

It’s not so much a “feature” as a “known side-effect.”

In the Columns++ | Profile… dialog there is a setting:
Apply monospaced font optimizations (Yes, No or Best estimate)
and beneath that, a check box:
Don’t show expanded mnemonics for non-printing characters when monospaced.

The defaults are Best estimate and checked.

Don’t show expanded mnemonics… only applies when the first setting is Yes, or when it is Best estimate and the best estimate is Yes.

What that setting does is to replace the reversed-type black boxes for non-printing characters, like BEL or NBSP, with a single ! in a black box. The reason is that “monospaced font optimizations” depend on every character being the same width; they speed up processing in larger files if that is true, but things get even slower than they would be without the optimizations if there are characters (like the black blobs with control character mnemonics) that aren’t the same width as everything else.

I don’t know why the CR and LF are converted to C and L instead of being an exclamation point, like all other non-printing characters, but that’s what happens. I know of no way to change that while still controlling the width of other non-printing characters.

Knowing that it’s not abnormal, if this still bothers you, there are two things you could do to avoid it:

1. If your files rarely or never contain non-printing characters (except end-of-line characters), you can uncheck Don’t show expanded mnemonics for non-printing characters when monospaced and the display of line-ending characters will return to normal.

2. I’ve recently discovered that monospaced font optimizations are only necessary if you do not have Use DirectWrite checked in the Notepad++ options at Settings | Preferences… | MISC.. Recent versions of Notepad++ default that setting to checked (it was unchecked when I first released Columns++). Starting with version 1.1, Columns++ will always use “No” as the Best estimate when DirectWrite is enabled. In version 1.0.6, if you have DirectWrite enabled, or if you never enable elastic tabstops on files that are large enough to make response sluggish, you could set Apply monospaced font optimizations to No.

The nature of the Plugins Admin in Notepad++ is that the plugins listing is only updated when Notepad++ is updated (and even then, with some lag, depending on how long it takes to finalize a release). In the Columns++ | Help/About… dialog you’ll find links to the “newest” and “latest stable” releases, which you can install directly. Right now, 1.0.6 is latest stable; newest, 1.1.1, incorporates the DirectWrite/Best estimate fix along with some other significant fixes and improvements. I expect to release a 1.1.2 version within a day or two. If all goes well that version will be promoted to stable in time to get it into the Plugins Admin list for the next release of Notepad++.

[wonkawilly]

@Coises said in [New plugin] Columns++:

1.0.6

I understand it now, thank you so much for the explication.

[Pete Run]

@Coises Just moved to Notepad++ x64 and reevaluating my plugins.
The Elastic Tabstops part of Columns++ looks very good as a replacemnt/addition to Plugin Elastic Tabstops.

There seems to be 1 thing missing, or I can’t find it:
“Selection Only”

I use the current Elastic tabstops as a monospace font “text aligner” with “tabs to spaces” instead of tabs, so being able to restrict to “Selection Only” makes life simpler, otherwise it means placing in another document and copying back.

Will you be adding “Selection Only”?

Cheers Pete

[Coises]

@Pete-Run said in [New plugin] Columns++:

There seems to be 1 thing missing, or I can’t find it:
“Selection Only”

I use the current Elastic tabstops as a monospace font “text aligner” with “tabs to spaces” instead of tabs, so being able to restrict to “Selection Only” makes life simpler, otherwise it means placing in another document and copying back.

Will you be adding “Selection Only”?

I don’t expect to add an option to align tabs only in the selection. I designed the Elastic tabstops feature to make it appear to the user that the entire document is always instantly aligned, while deferring some processing until needed to keep it responsive wherever possible. I think it would complicate processing a lot to have an option to work only on a selection; I’d have to be pretty convinced that there was a good reason for it.

I don’t follow your description of your use case. However, admittedly I haven’t used the Elastic Tabstops plugin much since it was rewritten and taken over by a new maintainer, then almost immediately abandoned. I used the old version quite a bit, but it blocked me from updating to 64-bit Notepad++.

Convert tabs to spaces on the Columns++ menu takes the selection into account if there is one. If you mean that you need to align tabs in a sequence of lines without regard to tabs elsewhere in the same document, that will usually happen automatically, unless you’ve chosen the Tabular profile or otherwise set Profile… | Line up elastic tabstops throughout entire document checked. The exception is if there is no intervening line without tabs between sections you want aligned independently; in that case, you could add a blank line just until you convert and then remove it again.

[Pete Run]

@Coises Many thanks for the prompt and informative response.

I found this here: https://github.com/dail8859/ElasticTabstops/releases

v1.3.1 Latest (this is the version I was running on NPPx32)
Add ability to ignore extensions
Rebuild for Notepad++ v7.7 64-bit compatibility

However, although it works on x32 bit, it gets access violation on x64.

I did notice this for v1.3
Changelog:
Limit updates to only the current view region. This can lead to a significant performance increase for large files such as TSV, or when doing Search/Replace. Note: that this may case columns to change sizes while scrolling.
Fix issue with specifying extensions
Fix tab widths for proportional fonts
Allow elastic tabstops to be calculated for files using spaces as indentation

So “Selection Only” was considered and impletmented as an improvement by the previous developer.

For my purposes I can manage with a bit of copy/paste, so thanks for the plugin

Cheers Pete
P.S. see next post for different suggestion.

[Pete Run]

@Coises I have posted this separately as it is a related but different issue.

Image 1 shows normal tabbed lines with lines with NO Tabs.
Image 2 shows 1 “overly” elasticated, possibly as expected it treats the end of the no tab line as a tab position.
Image 3 shows “neatly” elasticated with blank lines inserted “around” simple “Text with NoTab lines”.

So my request would be an option to “Elastically Ignore” lines with no tabs.

I could think of many situations where in 1 document Tabulated information is separated by some textual explanation/detail (e.g. the old * reference) that would not easily fit tabularly. Even many small tables.

In this instance I would then convert tabs to spaces, so I have a workaround; just adding extra blank lines, but that would take a long time for many small tables. I suspect a simple replace command would fix that though. I feel an addition to my macro coming on! Please do not think I am a programmer, despite being in IT since 1970, I’m now 75, my programming expertise ends at butchering other peoples “scripts” and tinkering with recorded macros, but great fun.

Thanks again for the plugin
Pete

[Coises]

@Pete-Run said in [New plugin] Columns++:

So my request would be an option to “Elastically Ignore” lines with no tabs.

Columns++ | Profile… | Do not allow text following the last tab on a line to span columns. should not be checked for the example given.

(I would guess that you chose the built-in Tabular profile and then unchecked Line up elastic tabstops throughout the entire document. For mixed presentations like your example, Classic or General is usually a good starting place; Tabular is specifically most useful when the entire document is a single tab-separated-values table. Of course, you can use any combination of options you like, and save the them as a custom profile if desired.)

[Coises]

@Pete-Run said in [New plugin] Columns++:

I did notice this for v1.3
Changelog:
Limit updates to only the current view region. This can lead to a significant performance increase for large files such as TSV, or when doing Search/Replace. Note: that this may case columns to change sizes while scrolling.
[…]
So “Selection Only” was considered and impletmented as an improvement by the previous developer.

I think you’re misremembering something. What is described in the changes you quoted was limiting analysis to the visible part of the file (plus, if I recall correctly, a few lines before and after). As noted, this caused the columns to change width when scrolling.

One of my design goals was to get as much as possible of the performance improvement without the visual jumps. To that end, I separate calculating the tab positions from applying them; it turns out actually applying the tab positions to each line is the slowest part of the whole process. So I calculate tab positions for the whole file, but only apply them as necessary: to the visible part and to anything enclosed in a rectangular selection (since rectangular selections don’t work as intended if the lines aren’t correctly laid out — another problem from the old implementation I wanted to avoid).

As far as I know, the dail8859 ElasticTabstops never had a “selection only” option. I think you might at some point have installed the mariusv ElasticTabstops which has this ini file option:

sel_only=1 or 0 (default 1)
; the active range for applying elastic tabstops will be the current selected lines or all the file

I still don’t quite understand your use case. What is it you are trying to do that would be easier if elastic tabstop positions were shown only for selected lines?

[Pete Run]

@Coises said in [New plugin] Columns++:

@Pete-Run said in [New plugin] Columns++:

So my request would be an option to “Elastically Ignore” lines with no tabs.

Columns++ | Profile… | Do not allow text following the last tab on a line to span columns. should not be checked for the example given.

AhHa, I am not sure that I understand “Do not allow text following the last tab on a line to span columns” but that works niceley, thanks.

I still don’t quite understand your use case. What is it you are trying to do that would be easier if elastic tabstop positions were shown only for selected lines?

I only occasionally use NPP for NPP shortcuts.xml, some Lua, AHK etc. I was brought up on IBM mainframe early Text editors and JCL etc, so I am at home with text editors so am happy to use it for text manipulation, especially when Ms Word macros are lacking.

My main gripe with tabs in textual situations is that they can “mess up/misalign” when copied between applications, hence my desire to sometimes use monospace fonts with spaces rather than tabs and of course in tables a word processor, but many situations do not afford tables.

So, thanks again for your Columns++ and Elastic Tabs which helps keep my text aligned in different scenarios.