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    • Victorel PetrovichV
      Victorel Petrovich @rdipardo
      last edited by Victorel Petrovich

      @rdipardo I only build debug versions to test, so I don’t need to differentiate between release vs debugs.

      Instead, I was curious about was whether it was possible to make the printf results appear in the console cmd.exe from where I run the Npp .exe. I thought since this is debug version, maybe some compilation settings are possible to allow that. But that’s just a curiosity; above setup seems to work well.

      The extra code you’re inserting into the N++ binary may end up introducing bugs instead of detecting the ones already there.

      I think it’s obvious / common sense that one doesn’t leave any “extra” (unnecessary) code in a PR.

      I seriously doubt how useful it’s going to be

      Very useful; I already tested some of my assumptions.

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      • Alan KilbornA
        Alan Kilborn @Victorel Petrovich
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        @Victorel-Petrovich

        OutputDebugString() is where I’d go with it, rather than going to the trouble of getting a console. But, it’s similar, and apparently what you have going now works, so…

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        • Victorel PetrovichV
          Victorel Petrovich @Alan Kilborn
          last edited by

          @Alan-Kilborn Thank you for answering to the point .

          Everywhere I read (including 2 ref-s above , and at microsoft) they say OutputDebugString() is for when the app is run from / has a debugger .

          But, it’s similar, and apparently what you have going now works, so…

          Indeed.

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          • EkopalypseE
            Ekopalypse @Victorel Petrovich
            last edited by

            @Victorel-Petrovich said in Debugging Npp .exe without a debugger (beginner):

            Everywhere I read (including 2 ref-s above , and at microsoft) they say OutputDebugString() is for when the app is run from / has a debugger .

            … but it is not limited to be used only by debuggers. Applications like debugview from sysinternals tools can be used to get this output.

            or a pythons script like

            import ctypes
            from ctypes.wintypes import HANDLE, DWORD, BOOL, LPVOID, LPCWSTR, LPHANDLE
            import mmap
            import struct
            import os
            from Npp import console
            console.show()
            
            kernel32 = ctypes.WinDLL('kernel32', use_last_error=True)
            
            CreateEventW = kernel32.CreateEventW
            CreateEventW.argtypes = [LPVOID, BOOL, BOOL, LPCWSTR]
            CreateEventW.restype = HANDLE
            
            SetEvent = kernel32.SetEvent
            SetEvent.argtypes = [HANDLE]
            SetEvent.restype = BOOL
            
            WaitForSingleObject = kernel32.WaitForSingleObject
            WaitForSingleObject.argtypes = [HANDLE, DWORD]
            WaitForSingleObject.restype = DWORD
            
            WaitForMultipleObjects = kernel32.WaitForMultipleObjects
            WaitForMultipleObjects.argtypes = [DWORD, LPHANDLE, BOOL, DWORD]
            WaitForMultipleObjects.restype = DWORD
            
            CloseHandle = kernel32.CloseHandle
            CloseHandle.argtypes = [HANDLE]
            CloseHandle.restype = BOOL
            
            BUFFER_READY = kernel32.CreateEventW(None, 0, 0, 'DBWIN_BUFFER_READY')
            DATA_READY = kernel32.CreateEventW(None, 0, 0, 'DBWIN_DATA_READY')
            STOP_DBG_LOOP = kernel32.CreateEventW(None, 0, 0, 'STOP_DBG_LOOP')
            
            HANDLES = (HANDLE * 2)(DATA_READY, STOP_DBG_LOOP)
            buffer = mmap.mmap(0, 4096, "DBWIN_BUFFER", mmap.ACCESS_WRITE)
            CURRENT_NPP_ID = os.getpid()
            
            # Call SetEvent(STOP_DBG_LOOP) to stop the loop,
            # either with a second script or by calling from the PS console
            
            while True:
                SetEvent(BUFFER_READY)
                result = WaitForMultipleObjects(2, HANDLES, False, 0xFFFFFFFF)
                if result == 1:  # STOP_DBG_LOOP received
                    break
                elif result == 0:
                    buffer.seek(0)
                    process_id, = struct.unpack("L", buffer.read(4))
                    data = buffer.read(4092)
                    if CURRENT_NPP_ID != process_id:  # to prevent seeing PS's own debug strings.
                        if b"\0" in data:
                            data = data[:data.index(b"\0")]
                        print("Process:[{0}] {1}".format(process_id, data.decode().strip()))
                else:
                    print('ooppss: {}'.format(result))
                    break
            
            CloseHandle(BUFFER_READY)
            CloseHandle(DATA_READY)
            CloseHandle(STOP_DBG_LOOP)
            print('done')
            
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            • Victorel PetrovichV
              Victorel Petrovich @Ekopalypse
              last edited by Victorel Petrovich

              @Ekopalypse you’re a wizard

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              • Victorel PetrovichV
                Victorel Petrovich @Victorel Petrovich
                last edited by Victorel Petrovich

                I’ve just downloaded DebugView from sysinternals (easy to use), and read in several pages about OutputDebugString().
                So, yes, it’s good if you don’t want to create a console in the app with AllocConsole() like above.
                But then you usually need to prepare the formatted string in advance using sprintf() or similar, then pass to OutputDebugString… (Or write a special function to do it… again extra inserted code or files).
                So printf() is easier to use (at least for most practical cases, IMO), and already familiar.

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                • Alan KilbornA
                  Alan Kilborn @Victorel Petrovich
                  last edited by

                  @Victorel-Petrovich said in Debugging Npp .exe without a debugger (beginner):

                  So printf() is easier to use (at least for most practical cases, IMO), and already familiar.

                  Really, only because you already have the “console” approach in your rearview mirror.

                  If someone didn’t have that, OutputDebugString is easier.

                  It’s just a matter of (in very simple terms):

                  char buf[1024];
                  sprintf(buf, “test”);
                  OutputDebugString(buf);

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                  • Victorel PetrovichV
                    Victorel Petrovich @Alan Kilborn
                    last edited by Victorel Petrovich

                    @Alan-Kilborn said in Debugging Npp .exe without a debugger (beginner):

                    It’s just a matter of (in very simple terms):
                    char buf[1024];
                    sprintf(buf, “test”);
                    OutputDebugString(buf);

                    But when you have several tens of outputs to write in every function you test… :/

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                    • Alan KilbornA
                      Alan Kilborn @Victorel Petrovich
                      last edited by Alan Kilborn

                      @Victorel-Petrovich said in Debugging Npp .exe without a debugger (beginner):

                      But when you have several tens of outputs to write in every function you test

                      Hmm, no idea why that’s a problem…

                      I think if this is how you’re considering debugging Notepad++ changes you might make…it is going to wear you down fast and you’ll give up trying to make changes.

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                      • Victorel PetrovichV
                        Victorel Petrovich @Alan Kilborn
                        last edited by Victorel Petrovich

                        @Alan-Kilborn With column-mode editing, and duplication of lines etc, it’s not that bad.
                        Much harder is to understand why I don’t get the results I expect, doing lots of googling , and try again and again.

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                        • Victorel PetrovichV
                          Victorel Petrovich
                          last edited by

                          Another option, pointed out to me by @Yaron10 on github:
                          printInt(int int2print) and printStr(const TCHAR *str2print)
                          Will output in a message box…
                          Comparable with OutputDebugString in the need to prepare the (complex) string beforehand, but doesn’t require a debugger or allocating a console.
                          https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/master/PowerEditor/src/MISC/Common/Common.cpp#L32
                          (The definitions also hint at how to properly pass the string).

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                          • PeterJonesP
                            PeterJones @Victorel Petrovich
                            last edited by

                            Topic moved to the newly renamed and refocused “Notepad++ & Plugin Development” category, where it naturally fits (I assumed @Victorel-Petrovich wouldn’t mind it being moved, since he was the one who wanted a specific place to ask such questions).

                            Personally, when I am doing a lot of print-based debugging, I write wrapper functions or #define macros that encapsulate all the formatting into the string, and then call the proper output function with that string, so that I can just have a single line of code for each inline debug print, and I let the complications of definining a dummy buffer variable and the sprintf formatting elsewhere.

                            But really, none of these questions are specific to debugging Notepad++, and is really a generic C/C++ “best way to debug without a debugger, without a console, or similar restriction” question.

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                            • Victorel PetrovichV
                              Victorel Petrovich @PeterJones
                              last edited by

                              @PeterJones said in Debugging Npp .exe without a debugger (beginner):

                              I assumed @Victorel-Petrovich wouldn’t mind it being moved

                              True

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