NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?

Michael Vincent

@mkupper said in NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?:

Notice that npp is now in multi-caret mode. My automatic response is to tap the Esc key. Nothing happens…

Unless I’m misunderstanding how you get this behavior, I cannot replicate it.

1
22
3
abcd
abcde
abcdef

put caret between b and c on line 4.
while holding Alt+Shift , press down arrow arrow twice
While holding Shift, press right arrow once (the column of c’s are now highlighted)
press x (column of c’s now change to a column of x’s)
press ESC - single caret now blinks between x and d in line 6

Cheers.

EDIT: OH, I see you are using Alt+Shift in step 3. In that case, I can replicate. I’m in the habit of using Alt+Shift to create the “column caret” - which should really just be a special case of generic multi-caret and then use just Shift to continue to select what I want or no modifier to move the multi-caret “column”. You could also just install BetterMultiSelection if you’re really doing lots of column / multi-selecting. I don’t know how anyone could have done multi-caret and lived without this plugin up to (and potentially including) this point. I still have it enabled on my daily driver N++ 8.6 even with the new multi-editing enhancements.

Alan Kilborn

I have not made the move to 8.6 yet, but I think in @mkupper 's scenario I would not release the Alt key and thus would get into the same situation. Perhaps an official bug report is in order.

mkupper

@Alan-Kilborn said in NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?:

Perhaps an official bug report is in order.

I’m still trying to figure out if the issues I have are bugs or features.

A few days ago I filed bug report about v 8.6 column delete also deleted unexpected end-of-lines #14426

László Botka

@Alan-Kilborn said in NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?:

It isn’t needed; never really has been needed IMO.
Mutli-editing (i.e., multiple carets at the same time) is always enabled now.

If I understand correctly, this part in Editing/Multi Editing of the user manual is no longer true:
Whether or not you can use Multi-Editing mode is determined by the Settings > Preferences > Editing > ☑ Enable Multi-Editing (Ctrl+Mouse click/selection) checkbox: with it checkmarked, Ctrl+Click will add caret locations; with it not checkmarked, Multi-Editing is disabled.

Caleb Knorr

@ László-Botka This is not correct. The checkbox was removed in 8.6.

PeterJones

@László-Botka said in NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?:

If I understand correctly, this part in Editing/Multi Editing of the user manual is no longer true:

The User Manual was updated about 24 hours ago to correctly describe the change to v8.6 (you might need to to Ctrl+Reload in your browser to get the updated copy of the page):

The manual still mentions the setting so that people who have the new version and are looking in the manual for where that setting went can see that the option was removed, and so that people who are still on an earlier version can still find the documentation for the option that their instance of Notepad++ still uses.

@Caleb-Knorr replied,

This is not correct. The checkbox was removed in 8.6.

You misunderstood @László-Botka: they were saying that the old documentation (which described the checkbox without a caveat) did not match the new behavior, because the old documentation said there was a checkbox but v8.6 doesn’t have the checkbox. But apparently @László-Botka was looking at a cached version of the User Manual, because the new version of the User Manual was published to the website about 24 hours ago (which was before @László-Botka’s post).

László Botka

@PeterJones thanks the info!

Caleb Knorr

@ PeterJones I see, that is my bad. Do you know of any way to disable multi-editing, since the checkbox is gone?

Alan Kilborn

@Caleb-Knorr said in NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?:

Do you know of any way to disable multi-editing, since the checkbox is gone?

Perhaps disabling it via a PythonScript would work.

But is there really a big need for this?

Or is it just a matter of getting used to a new and potentially better capability, if you keep an open mind about new and better things?

mkupper

@Alan-Kilborn said in NPP 8.6 multi-edit preference not shown?:

Or is it just a matter of getting used to a new and potentially better capability, if you keep an open mind about new and better things?

We pounded rocks the same way for about 1.5 million years. About 50,000 years ago was the start of an explosion of developing and accepting new techniques. I have long been fascinated by this as I suspect that early humans from even a million years ago were about as intelligent as today’s humans but they seemed to either not try or to not accept variations in how rocks should be pounded. See https://www.history.com/news/hunter-gatherer-tools-breakthroughs for a timeline that lead to Notepad++.

I’m still in my cave, resisting Notepad++ v8.6’s automatic multi-carets…