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    • Stanton McCandlishS
      Stanton McCandlish @Terry R
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      @Terry-R – Will do. Though, as plug-in supporting apps go, this is not a “lot” at all. In Photoshop I have over 100, and in Chrome at least 50. But it does make sense to try ruling these out to see if one of them is the source of the issue.

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      • Stanton McCandlishS
        Stanton McCandlish @Lycan Thrope
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        @Lycan-Thrope – I will try this route, though I have to observe that I didn’t “condemn” anything at all; I described a problem and noted that it was severe. (As for Win11, I have not found it problematic in any particular ways compared to 10, though I did a privacy-leaning installation with various things disabled, and have since used O&O Shut Up, Open-Shell, WinAero Tweaker, a bunch of the MajorGeeks tweaks, and various other tools to improve it, but I did the same in Win10 before that.)

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        • Terry RT
          Terry R @Stanton McCandlish
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          @Stanton-McCandlish said in App locking up every few minutes (NP++ 8.6.x, Win 11):

          Though, as plug-in supporting apps go, this is not a “lot” at all.

          That’s debatable as most users wouldn’t even get close to that number. The issue may be that there is an updated version of one of your plugins, maybe even as a result of using Windows 11, so the FAQ post shows you the method to identifying if one is problematic without actually removing it, and therefore potentially any custom settings you may have created. So ut us a nondestructive method.

          Good luck
          Terry

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          • Stanton McCandlishS
            Stanton McCandlish @Terry R
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            @Terry-R – Yes, good stuff. I’ll start on this tonight

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            • CoisesC
              Coises @Stanton McCandlish
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              @Stanton-McCandlish said in App locking up every few minutes (NP++ 8.6.x, Win 11):

              @Terry-R – Will do. Though, as plug-in supporting apps go, this is not a “lot” at all. In Photoshop I have over 100, and in Chrome at least 50. But it does make sense to try ruling these out to see if one of them is the source of the issue.

              The plugin system in Notepad++ gives plugins a great deal of power, and (once you get past the framework stuff) it’s fairly straightforward. Plugins have a chance to monitor and react to nearly everything that happens in Notepad++.

              A downside of this is that plugins can wreak havoc, and they can interfere with one another.

              I wrote the Columns++ plugin. If you have Elastic tabstops enabled, see if turning that off makes any difference. That function requires monitoring every change made to the document; if another plugin also requires that kind of monitoring, the two can get in a kind of stand-off with one another. Sometimes there is little a plugin author can do about that, but if that does turn out to be the problem, I’d like to know so I can attempt to mitigate it.

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              • Alan KilbornA
                Alan Kilborn @Stanton McCandlish
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                @Stanton-McCandlish said:

                as plug-in supporting apps go, this is not a “lot” at all

                For Notepad++, your plugin list is absolutely HUGE, maybe the longest I’ve ever seen.
                The longer the plugin list, the more certain we can be that at least one plugin is the cause of your problem.
                BTW, I’m also reasonably sure that you don’t need and/or don’t use a good number of those plugins – perhaps time for a house-cleaning?

                Notepad++ is a very old app, and consequently has a very different plugin scheme than newer apps, like the ones you mentioned. Probably those newer apps have a “safer” plugin scheme, where it is harder for a rogue plugin to bring down (or, interfere in a big way with) the main app.

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                • Alan KilbornA
                  Alan Kilborn @Lycan Thrope
                  last edited by Alan Kilborn

                  @Lycan-Thrope said :

                  before condemning the whole of Notepad++ first…

                  …why I bought a clean copy of Windows 10, is that I won’t be moving to Win11 for a long time, if ever.

                  Hmm, indicates someone condemns N++ but then goes on to seemingly condemn the whole of Windows 11 himself…
                  There nothing any more “wrong” with Windows 11 than what’s “wrong” with any previous version.


                  but from what I’ve been hearing

                  What’s your source?
                  If you say “the things I’ve been reading on the internet…” then I have to say that if in your mind you want something to be true, search the internet regarding it and you will become convinced it is true.
                  My wife is this way with medical symptoms and “Doctor Google”. :-)

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                  • Lycan ThropeL
                    Lycan Thrope @Alan Kilborn
                    last edited by Lycan Thrope

                    @Alan-Kilborn said in App locking up every few minutes (NP++ 8.6.x, Win 11):

                    Hmm, indicates someone condemns N++ but then goes on to seemingly condemn the whole of Windows 11 himself…
                    There nothing any more “wrong” with Windows 11 than what’s “wrong” with any previous version.

                    Ummm. speaking of people taking the discussion off course. :-)

                    I was going to mention to @Stanton-McCandlish , that at least his use of Open-Shell, is something I also use, because of the way Win10 (let alone 8.0) changed “common UI” that I “prefer”. As I understand, Win 11 is the same, so condemning it is my prerogative, because of their forcing users to use their idea of UI rather than what was previously a standard, so they can be a whizz bang UI and charge more for it, and hiding more of the system to make it’s users dumber.

                    My condemning Win is only surpassed by my hatred for MS in general. :-) I like, Notepad++, so I don’t treat it like a pack mule to put all my belongings on. I put on what I need and to learn the plugin, but then delete it until I need it again. I can’t do the same thing with Windows, hence my different, but not equivocal (and certainly not hypocritical) statements in comparison.

                    Next question. :-)

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                    • Alan KilbornA
                      Alan Kilborn @Lycan Thrope
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                      @Lycan-Thrope said in App locking up every few minutes (NP++ 8.6.x, Win 11):

                      speaking of people taking the discussion off course

                      Do you mean me? Or you? :-)
                      If you meant me, I did not go in-depth into an off-topic discussion; my goal was to prevent future (perhaps naive) readers from coming here and thinking there was a problem between N++ and Windows 11.

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                      • Lycan ThropeL
                        Lycan Thrope @Alan Kilborn
                        last edited by Lycan Thrope

                        @Alan-Kilborn ,
                        Well, just so we can be clear, I’ve never really been an early adopter of OS’s as I prefer not to do their QA work. :-) And there have been many hiccups even between common NPP behavior and Win11 changes to warrant such a warning as a possible reason for problems. That’s all.

                        When something changes, in this case the OS, that’s usually the first place to look for a change after the application has been cleared. That’s all.

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