Closed without saving the tab with the necessary data for 3 months.
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GitHub issue #15032
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I applaud @xomx for trying, but isn’t the proposed solution simply giving the user more words and prompts? And don’t complaints with existing functionality basically boil down to “I didn’t read the prompts and/or I didn’t think about what I was doing”?
Probably adding more words/prompts makes it more of a TL;DR … followed by the user still continuing on and doing a dumb thing.
Let’s review how the OP for this thread got into trouble:
Accidentally closed the active tab with material that had been stored for many months…
@PeterJones responded to this with:
If you close the active tab while there are unsaved changes, it will prompt you to save those changes.
As far as prompting goes, IMO that’s all that’s needed.
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@Alan-Kilborn said in Closed without saving the tab with the necessary data for 3 months.:
isn’t the proposed solution simply giving the user more words and prompts?
Simply saying - yes.
@Alan-Kilborn said in Closed without saving the tab with the necessary data for 3 months.:
And don’t complaints with existing functionality basically boil down to “I didn’t read the prompts and/or I didn’t think about what I was doing”?
Yes, I for one will live happily without this new dlg. But even if I think about this issue reason probably differently than the OP, the fact remains that different people think and behave differently, and if I can help them without having to adapt to their bad habits myself (that “Never ask again” checkbox), I am ready to do so. (Maybe then they also help me next time when it will be me needing the help.)
And do not forget that we can all have sometimes our weak moments when we do something thoughtlessly/automatically and then perhaps regret it. Here the right habits help, specifically here e.g. the regular backups drill. But without it, there still could be that new special dlg (not seen in any other situation) that could make the user realize that it might not be ok.
I myself was punished by a different situation where I had a file open in the N++, which I then deleted for some reason externally. But when I then got back to N++, I confirmed keeping that tab in and after some longer time I started writing my changes to it, only to finally decide not to save them and go back to the original file. You can probably guess at this point where I am going - yes, I closed the N++ tab and clicked that do-not-save and lost both the changed file and the original one. All this because my memory no longer remembered what came before. The proposed solution will help even with such case.
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I had no idea that bizarre (to me) setting is the default for new installations. People want that?
According all the feedback I’ve got, yes, people love it.
If you’re going to use a tool, any tool, you’re required to learn how to use it properly, not have the tool learn how to use you.
Agree. However, making software easy to use, it’s not only the responsibility of an application, but also for staying ahead of the competition. Users are unlikely to embrace applications that do not put forth any effort to simplify their lives.
So for whatever it’s worth, my vote is always on whatever can reasoanbly be done to save users, and their data, from themselves.
Well said. I think it’s the way to go.
Though I am ready to do some effort for remedying this issue, I feel @xomx ‘s solution is overwhelming. It’s a good intention to add more dialog, but let’s not disturb the users’ workflow.
Here’s my suggestion:
The sentence is in red for drawing people’s attention.
It’s brief and short so people will take time to read.
With 2 approaches above, it should be efficient.Probably adding more words/prompts makes it more of a … followed by the user still continuing on and doing a dumb thing.
“The warning has been given, they are on their own now.” - as my favorite sentence has been said in WarCraft II.
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@donho said in Closed without saving the tab with the necessary data for 3 months.:
“The warning has been given, they are on their own now.” - as my favorite sentence has been said in WarCraft II.
When does the attack begin, my liege? :-)
