@Terry-R said in Cannot update portable version -- Windows keeps using old version even though it's deleted:

@helpdata said in Cannot update portable version -- Windows keeps using old version even though it's deleted:

Well, you don’t know the reason it changed the default application. It may have been you to make that occur even if you deny that was the case.

As I said, I REPEATEDLY changed the default app for text files to the I: drive version. I literally navigated again and again to that drive and set that version of the program as default. It did not “take” in Windows, perhaps because the executable had the same name, so Windows decided it’s the same program and did not update. A bug.

Personally I would just install Notepad++ and then if I needed to maintain version control turn off the auto-updater option as I stated in the previous post.

I’m considering that, although I do like portable apps. Any more problems and that’s what I’ll do.

PS your statement of “The I: drive where the portable version has always lived,” is clearly incorrect as has been proven.

Um, no, it has always been on the I: drive, and the I: drive is backed up to the H: drive. This is definitely a Windows issue. Until recently, Windows did not even allow portable apps to be set as default apps:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2795276/is-it-no-longer-possible-to-make-a-portable-progra

Anyway, thanks for the help.

@Joe-Wilton,

Obviously there is some interaction between the characters in the Operators 1 list and the Folding in Code 1 and 2 styles.

The intention for UDL is that no given token (symbol or word) is found in two separate fields: they are supposed to be unique, because you cannot style a token both as an Operator and as a Folding-In-Code, as the two are mutually exclusive. There is an internal order they are processed, but that order is not guaranteed (a few versions back, Notepad++ actually changed the order of a couple of the fields, which broke some UDL that were relying on the old order of processing to handle conflicts in their definitions). If you make the UDL without conflicts, you won’t have problems if Notepad++ changes the internals again.

(By “no given token … is found”, I mean “is found alone”. For example, you could have a fold-open2 of { and an operator of {{ – if it finds double-brace, it will render it as an operator, but a single-brace will be a fold-open2.)

@Cheok-SC said in 15sec freeze with word wrap:

Is Word Wrap really that heavy of a performance cost?

Yes.

There’s a reason that Settings > Preferences > Performance automatically deactivates word-wrap for large files, when all the other performance issues start with the checkboxes off, so you have to decide to also deactivate other features for large files. Word wrap and syntax highlighting are the two biggest performance costs, because they involve processing the entire file

@Ekopalypse

I recompiled with your code modification and I can’t crash Notepad++ anymore ! :)

So I can confirm your modification fixes the issue on my side. Thank you !

@tino-tesu said in v8.8.6 - the function list is not working:

That was a easy fix. I could add a new line after.

Great.

Notepad++ has a long-standing bug wherein if you have a FunctionList parser that includes a class, every class must have one or more whitespace after the last “closing” tag. Usually, it shows up with C/C++ classes, which end with } … but the bug also occurs for other classes in functionLists.

The reason why v8.8.5 worked without the newline is because the v8.8.5 FunctionList parser for SQL didn’t try to do classes, so didn’t trigger that bug.

@PeterJones

If you have compare plugin installed you can use it, compare english.xml with english_customizable.xml I provided and you’ll see all differences. Anyway below is explanation of couple of them (ones that you didn’t mention).

Ps. you probably know this but you can make context menu and tab context menu work in both localizations by referring to items by their IDs instead of their names. IDs can be found with NPPUISpy plugin or by reading english.xml localization file.

renamed “Window” menu as Tabs as to my observations items inside are tabs, not windows.

“containing folder”. I have not heard this term used anywhere else than NPP. Most common name for showing file folder in explorer is “Show In Explorer”, sometimes also “Open in Explorer”. IMO in this context “current folder” is more intuitive.

“close multiple documents” --> “close multiple tabs”. How often people use NPP to edit “documents” ? For me I edit mainly script or programming source code, txt, ini, xml files, etc… Document gives completely wrong impression (in my opinion) so tab is a better term.

“edit - insert”–>“edit - insert date, time”. If you use the program seldom you will not remember what sort of insert options there are inside so better to have more descriptive menu item name.

“Convert case to”–>“Case”, “Line Operations”–>“Line”, “EOL Conversion”–>“EOL”, unneeded words cluttering UI

“Auto-Completion”–>“Auto-Complete”, latter is de-facto term used for this feature

“View - View current file in”–>“View - Open with”, Open with is more common way to describe this feature

“Encoding - Character Set”–>“Encoding - Non-English Encoding”. Character set is pretty ambigous name but this submenu contains only encoding related to non-english languages so I thought this name would be more descriptive.

“Language - User Defined Language”–>“Language - UDL Settings”. IMO things related to UDL were maybe most confusing and illogical part of NPP UI. So I did a lot of changes there.

“Reload from Disk”–>“Reload”. Usually it is called just Reload or Refresh

“Open in default viewer”–>“Open in default program”

“Folder as Workspace”–>“Workspace - Panel”

“Synchronize Horizontal Scrolling”–>“Sync Horizontal”

“Focus on Another View”–>“Focus on Other View”

“Open User Defined Language folder…”–>“Open userDefineLangs Folder…”

“Notepad++ Online User Manual”–>“USER MANUAL”

“Run…”–>“Open External Program…”

“Close - Close All BUT This”–>“Close - Other Tabs”

Close - Close All to the Left"–>“Close - Left”

“Find in Files”–>“Search in Multiple Files”. This was especially confusing. I had no idea what Find in Files would mean but Search in Multiple Files is pretty self explanatory.

@guy038 said in Change of the selection mode:

Open the search dialog ( Ctrl + F )

I just tried that. Then I tried doing just a Ctrl+A to select all the text more simply, and the Alt+Shift+UpArrow trick still worked to turn that stream into a zero-width column. That’s actually useful, as I often like getting a column at the beginning of the line. (It’s useful for going the other way – using the column editor to insert the line numbering.)

But be warned: if the final line of the file doesn’t have a newline, then my method will end up selecting a rectangle from the end of the last line to the beginning of the first line:
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The regex version avoids that by making sure it only selects lines that end with a newline.

This usually won’t be a problem for me, since I usually have a newline at the end of my file. I’ve just created a macro of the Ctrl+A then Alt+Shift+UpArrow sequence, and assigned a shortcut. It might just enter my standard workflow. So thanks, @guy038.

Actually, I just found another difference. @guy038’s regex vesion will only select a “paragraph” worth, since it will stop at the first blank line. So if you have

intro 1. blah 2. blah 10. blah ending

If your cursor is on intro or the line after, the regex will select the list. But if you’re on line 1. blah, then it will only select 2 and 10. And if you’re on the last line of the list, then it will actually select the ending paragraph.

So it depends on what quirks you want, and whether you want “paragraph” or “whole document”, whether you should record the macro with my Ctrl+A or @guy038’s regex, or a slightly modified regex to match your most common use case(s). Since macros record searches, any of those could be made into a macro for a single-keystroke for what you want.

@DoktorDemento said in notepad++ store version for windows 11?:

but is there any chance of a Microsoft Store listing for N++?

Essentially 0% chance. The developer does not want to go through the hoops required for the MS store, regardless of whether they now allow EXE installers or not. He has rejected the suggestion multiple times.

@rdipardo I just ran into this when I tried pasting a webpage of emoticon codes into a new installation of Notepad++ and was very surprised and pleased to see them rendered in color! In my daily NotePad++ they always look like line drawings. I tried playing with preferences but didn’t figure it out, so I Googled it and found the AI summary told me how to enable direct write to achieve this. Apparently when I installed my NotePad++ GDI was the default, but now it’s DirectWrite that is the default! Hooray! 😀

@James-Wisecup-0 said:

Maybe it’ll be a feature in the near future .

Likely not.

@Greg-Wille ,

There’s a workaround: if you use Window > Sort By > Content Length Ascending/Descending, it will sort the tabs by content length, which also sorts the Document List.

Because that sort feature exists through a different menu, it’s not likely that the developer would add it to the Document List panel as well (and it’s guaranteed that it won’t happen if you only have a post here, because as our FAQ explains, this is not the place for feature requests).

It appears that in my collection of fonts, Text is a variant like Thin, Medm, Bold, etc., because it works as expected with the rendering mode set to GDI instead of DirectWrite.

I don’t know if the font collection was repackaged on Google and Text was corrected,

Like I said, Google fonts doesn’t have the Text variant: I had to get that from fontsquirrel

perhaps it’s still mispackaged internally to IBM, so that it fails for me.

I doubt that’s it.

Thanks for your time, it’s greatly appreciated. (Not that it matters any more, but I’m on Windows 11 and my debug info follows.)

Well, there goes my Win11 theory. :-(

Scintilla Rendering Mode: SC_TECHNOLOGY_DIRECTWRITE (1)

… so this was taken when you were still in DirectWrite.

Display Info:
primary monitor: 3840x2400, scaling 300%

Ooh, that’s interesting. Maybe it’s a high-DPI issue. (Notepad++ still has some pretty weird bugs when you have a high-DPI monitor. Something specific to the Text version of the font might trigger one of those.)

But, anyway, if GDI works for you, that’s great. (Just be warned that in GDI mode, if you try to use an emoji or other glyph that’s not in your font, Windows might not be able to display the character from another font, like it can when you are in DirectWrite mode.)

@Shin-ichiroh-Sakagami ,

I just created a text file (Language > None (Normal Text)) with ~16M copies of the line this is just one line, with 1 in 1024 having -- with extra appended to the end.

When I search forward or backward for extra (SearchMode=Normal, not Regular Expression), it takes the same amount of time to search forward or backward. It’s definitely slow – as is everything when dealing with 10M lines – especially for Ctrl+HOME or Ctrl+END, but I don’t notice any difference between forward and backward search.

You might check your Settings > Preferences > Performance settings, and see if any of those help. If your log file is being syntax highlighted, you might want to change the performance threshold so that it’s not syntax highlighted, and it might speed up.

(If you were using Regular Expression search mode, and you had done the power-user config to allow backward regex, you need to know that backwards regex are not as efficient as forward, because the regex engine wasn’t optimized for backwards search.)

@Dinh-Duc-Nguyen
What do you mean by “large”? If you mean “hundreds of MB”, it’s not uncommon for Notepad++ to become unresponsive for a few seconds while it’s loading the file.

Also, it would help us diagnose your issue if you shared your debug info (?->Debug Info... from the Notepad++ main menu).

@PeterJones said in Need clarification about "built-in" language lexers:

So I asked ChatGPT why,

Why would you believe that atrocity?

It was probably an off-the-cuff question, but I figured I’d take it seriously. I know that this is going off-topic, so feel free to cull this response if you like.

To tweak the old Russian maxim, it’s very much a case of “distrust until verified” (which is why I posted my question instead of just swallowing what the thing spit out.

I’m not particularly a fan of them, and I honestly believe that in time, we (as in humanity) may come to regret their invention and our likely inevitable overdependence on them.

But I’m also not an ignorant neophyte. I’m actually very well aware of the limitations and problems with LLM’s, probably more than most people, and despite that, I’ve found them to be useful in some contexts.

First, you’re not wrong to call them “random text generators,” but that really is an oversimplification. It’s not just a flat index of word frequencies. Tehy’re trained with billions (or even trillions) of parameters that encode patterns across syntax, semantics and reasoning heuristics. From a purely mathematical point of view, it’s actually pretty intersting. But saying it’s “just statistics” is a bit like saying the human brain is “just firing neurons.” Yeah, it’s technically true, but it misses the interesting part.

So yes, because they are probabilistic sequence models, they are perfectly capable of fabricating “facts” (i.e., hallucinations, especially with multi-dimensional requests or as the context window gets filled up), making overgeneralizations like missing edge cases, or have issues with compression bias, shallow chain-of-reasoning (although this one is getting a little better), ambiguity drift, context inference biases, fidelity drift when repeatedly iterating through details, context window size limitations for long conversations, etc. I have some experience dealing with each of these limitations to some extent.

So I know all that going in, and since I do, I know not to rely on them as primary sources, and also how to account for many of those problems and a number of strategies to somewhat limit and mitigate the problems (e.g., authoritative source anchoring, chunking, forcing tabular output, explicitly prompting for blanks instead of it making guesses, etc). If I’m doing anything serious, I’ll use all the tools at my disposal, but I still know that if the output isn’t testable, it’s not trustworthy and I know not to rely on it for expertise; it’s just a tool I use to speed up my info gathering. I think of it as supplementary rather than authoritative.

So it’s an occasionally useful tool that’s saved me some time by giving me a starting point to quickly gather ideas and point me to things I might not have thought of before I check with reliable sources (like you) that can actually confirm or invalidate them.

I don’t expect to change any minds about it, and in truth, I don’t really even want to, but you always take the time to thoroughly answer people’s questions, and I wanted to respect that in turn.

@PeterJones That fixes everything! Thank you so much! Apparently I need to be better about updating N++ plugins.

@Augusto-Cesar-Santini ,

Under normal circumstances, TypeScript is not “blank”:
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What Theme are you using? Default (stylers.xml) or one of the other Themes?

Please note that themes and stylers.xml aren’t updated automatically when you update Notepad++, so your theme might be out of date, as described in the themes section of the user manual . But some themes, even fully up-to-date, are missing many of the Languages that stylers.xml or the DarkModeDefault theme provide. In that case, I recommend using Plugins > Plugins Admin to install the ConfigUpdater plugin, which can find any languages that are missing from your theme and put in dummy values; after a restart of the app, there will at least be entries, even if the colors aren’t the best or necessarily distinguished from each other.

@jeddahcpu said :

I can’t make text from right to left in new versions

@Coises Thanks