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    • Michael VincentM
      Michael Vincent @Alan Kilborn
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      @Alan-Kilborn said in Change Indent Keyboard Shortcut?:

      Probably I am not adding new information, but the oddness of this situation made me do my own little investigation.

      Thanks Alan - I surmised as much and it’s good to have someone confirm by actually looking at N++ source (I didn’t know where to begin to find it). I had assumed they were just calling the SCI_TAB and SCI_BACKTAB and looks like indeed that’s what they do.

      You can find the SCI_TAB and SCI_BACKTAB in Shortcut Mapper as well as some shortcuts for Cut / Paste:

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      And notice the Edit menu for Cut / Paste:

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      The two (multiple) shortcuts are assigned, something you can’t do with Shortcut Mapper, so again, assuming N++ code is somehow adding the shortcuts based on Scintilla “defaults” or something?

      So to sum up from our previous comments, it seems the Edit => Indent => menu items are not quite doing what they advertise. Not sure this is a bug, rather just a discrepancy between what the menu item implies and what it actually does.

      To be honest, I never knew they were there but now that I do, I like the functionality I’ve implemented above with NppExec - it’ll come in real handy when editing Python where indents MATTER and i can’t just add or comment out loops (like with Perl) when troubleshooting - I need to also change indent levels. It’ll be easier now with my new shortcuts!

      Cheers.

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      • Alan KilbornA
        Alan Kilborn @Michael Vincent
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        @Michael-Vincent said in Change Indent Keyboard Shortcut?:

        You can find the SCI_TAB and SCI_BACKTAB in Shortcut Mapper

        Yes, but if it was that alone we would be talking about “weirdness”. :-)

        The two (multiple) shortcuts are assigned, something you can’t do with Shortcut Mapper…

        You can assign multiple, but only for the Scintilla commands.

        Edit => Indent => menu items are not quite doing what they advertise … I never knew they were there but now that I do, I like the functionality I’ve implemented above…

        Yes, but it seems like standard Notepad++ could do better here. I mean, the stuff in the Edit -> Indent menu is rather pointless if it is just going to do the same thing as Tab or Shift+Tab.
        Or maybe the idea is to give script writers a way to invoke these keys without calling a “key sender”?
        I have no idea of the history on this.
        But I do know that Increase Line Indent (and Decrease) surely seems misleading (unless you have a multiline selection).

        BTW, if you like source code references, here’s where in Scintilla the Tab keycombos get processed, and you can see the difference in the multiline versus non-multiline handling: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/blob/3b2d2bb300d01fe02091c837bc65f87d07cf6b8c/scintilla/src/Editor.cxx#L3953

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        • Alan KilbornA
          Alan Kilborn @Alan Kilborn
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          @Michael-Vincent

          I was browsing the code link in my post just above, and noticed that the Scintilla code handles multi-selections and rectangular selections as well as the more usual single selection.

          I’m not much of a NppExec scripter, but I’m curious about what your scripts will do with those circumstances, so I may just try it out! :-)

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          • Michael VincentM
            Michael Vincent @Alan Kilborn
            last edited by Michael Vincent

            @Alan-Kilborn said in Change Indent Keyboard Shortcut?:

            I’m not much of a NppExec scripter, but I’m curious about what your scripts will do with those circumstances, so I may just try it out! :-)

            My script basically looks at the selection and if it’s single line - it does some magic before calling the Edit=>Indent=>menu options. If it’s multiline selection, I just call the Edit=>Indent=>menu options.

            I don’t fully grok the source code at your link, but if all that’s in there, I wonder if it may be an easy lift for a talented N++ developer to change the current simple menu code to sending SCI_TAB/BACKTAB to actually doing some logic about single / multiline selection and making the menu items “do what they say”.

            Til then, I’m loving my scripts (since I’m actually editing Python right now with the exact troubleshooting use case I described above). Everything “looks like a nail” now to me I guess …

            Cheers.

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            • Alan KilbornA
              Alan Kilborn @Michael Vincent
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              @Michael-Vincent said in Change Indent Keyboard Shortcut?:

              I wonder if it may be an easy lift for a talented N++ developer to change the current simple menu code to sending SCI_TAB/BACKTAB to actually doing some logic about single / multiline selection and making the menu items “do what they say”.

              That’s a good idea, but I quoted some “issue” links above on it, and it doesn’t appear they’ve generated enough interest for any of the talents to work on it.

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              • Cr8zy_IvanC
                Cr8zy_Ivan @Michael Vincent
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                • Cr8zy_IvanC
                  Cr8zy_Ivan
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                  Oh wow, quite the topic I see.

                  I’m trying to get this to work but finding it a bit frustrating.

                  @Michael-Vincent, thank you so much for the plugin and the code!

                  I’m a novice at Notepad++ and coding and general. I’ve installed the plugin, but then I’m confused as to what to do next. Macro\Modify Shortcut/Delete Macro? Plugins\NppExec\Show Console…? Save the code into a dll file? (I’m not even sure how dll files work)… oh boy

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                  • Michael VincentM
                    Michael Vincent @Cr8zy_Ivan
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                    @Stefane-Guevremont said in Change Indent Keyboard Shortcut?:

                    I’m a novice at Notepad++ and coding and general. I’ve installed the plugin, but then I’m confused as to what to do next. Macro\Modify Shortcut/Delete Macro? Plugins\NppExec\Show Console…? Save the code into a dll file? (I’m not even sure how dll files work)… oh boy

                    Plugins=>NppExec=>Execute. In the window, paste one of the “scripts” without the name and save with that name instead:

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                    Do the same for the other saving it as the other name.

                    Then, Plugins=>NppExec=> Advanced Options…

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                    Add a name, select the script name you saved that matches and press the Add/Modify button. Make sure the “Place to the Macros submenu” at the top is checked.

                    Finally, open Setting=>Shortcut Mapper… and add the “Ctrl + Alt + [” shortcuts:

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                    Cheers.

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                    • Cr8zy_IvanC
                      Cr8zy_Ivan
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                      Wow, that’s so awesome. Thank you!

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                      • Alan KilbornA
                        Alan Kilborn
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                        Here’s a weird condition…maybe:

                        Select one or more empty lines.
                        Press Tab.
                        Exactly nothing happens.

                        My goal was to have leading whitespace inserted on all lines at once, for each press of the tab key.

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