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    • Alan KilbornA
      Alan Kilborn @astrosofista
      last edited by

      I think what the OP is looking for here is basically a way to search for a phrase which could have a timestamp inserted into it at any word position in the phrase, i.e., it won’t occur that the timestamp is inserted into the middle of the word.

      Then the OP wants the ability to replace with the same sort of criterion.
      And it appears that the replacement can wholly occur after the timestamp (the portion of the search match before the timestamp is removed) and things still work.

      I think what might be best here is a script; the script would still use regular expressions, but it would allow the user to very naturally search for a simple phrase (user specifies “like a fire”) and replace it with a phrase (user specifies “liquify”) and the script takes care of the rest.

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      • guy038G
        guy038
        last edited by guy038

        Hello, @MaximillianM, @peterjones, @alan-kilborn, @astrosofista and All,

        Let’s expand the problem a bit and imagine this text :

        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
        The licenses for most software are designed to
        
        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
        take away your freedom to share and change it.
        

        And that the OP want to :

        • Find the string designed to take away

        • Replace it with the string generally made to always suppress

        Right now, the timestamp is located between the two strings designed to and take away

        Now, let’s use the | symbol to represent the timestamp feature

        Which replacement is expected by @MaximillianM ?

        designed to | take away => generally | made to always suppress    ( Case A )
        designed to | take away => generally made | to always suppress    ( Case B )
        designed to | take away => generally made to | always suppress    ( Case C )
        designed to | take away => generally made to always | suppress    ( Case D )
        

        To my mind, the more logical one would be Case B, as, before the timestamp, there would be as many words after the replacement than before the replacement !

        …

        Best Regards,

        guy038

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        • Alan KilbornA
          Alan Kilborn @guy038
          last edited by

          @guy038 said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

          To my mind, the more logical one would be Case B

          But we really don’t know what the OP’s needs in this regard are.
          I mean, well, if you want to have fun, go off and solve any problem you’d like. :-)

          For me, I’ll wait to see if OP returns again, clarifies need, and expresses interest in the scripted solution.

          The scripted solution I envision would prompt with an input box for the string to search for, then would prompt with an input box for the replacement. The script would run and use some variant of Peter’s solution behind the scenes.

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          • MaximillianMM
            MaximillianM
            last edited by

            Thank you all so much! You are Great! This really helps.

            I tested replacing the text after the second timestamp using $2 which works. Also adding it after the second timestamp probably is the best default option. The only real “error” could be if the replacement made it so that one line of text was completely blank.

            I hadn’t known about the script function and have just used recorded macros. Macros do work, but once created macros can be but are not that easy to edit.

            Since you have been so helpful. I’ll outline the full desired outcome which might be a script.

            1-Find and replace a list of words. Words might be added or removed to this list in the future. My current list is about 90 words.

            Most are just simple words so a 1 to 1 on the same line works.
            For example “cuz” replace with “because” or “um” replaced with a blank. Ideally, this list could be seen and edited

            WordToFind, Word to Replace
            cuz, because
            um, [blank]

            2-Then phrases that could go across lines. The regular expressions ones.
            Could be in the same list/table as above with the full code or a different list/table.
            WordToFind-----------Word to Replace
            (?x-s) \x20like (\x20 | \R | \R* \d{1,2} : .*\R) a ((?1)) fire-----------------$2liquefy

            or since you really know your stuff. Maybe fancy and takes the phrase
            “like a fire” and creates the code (?x-s) \x20like (\x20 | \R | \R* \d{1,2} : .*\R) a ((?1)) fire

            Thanks again! You have really been helping me out :-)

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            • Alan KilbornA
              Alan Kilborn @MaximillianM
              last edited by

              @MaximillianM said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

              “like a fire” and creates the code (?x-s) \x20like (\x20 | \R | \R* \d{1,2} : .*\R) a ((?1)) fire

              Yes, something like that was what I had in mind.

              Would your search “phrase” ever have TWO+ embedded timestamps in it? Or is that a case that we don’t need to consider…?

              Let me absorb your specs and see if I can put together a reasonable demo.

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              • MaximillianMM
                MaximillianM @Alan Kilborn
                last edited by

                @Alan-Kilborn Thanks! Across two timestamps is a possibility and would be great to consider for some potential longer phrases. You keep exceeding my expectations :-) Though if it is too complicated, across one is still really good.

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                • Alan KilbornA
                  Alan Kilborn
                  last edited by

                  @MaximillianM

                  So let’s start simple and slowly. :-)

                  Here’s a test PythonScript that can demo the functionality:

                  # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
                  
                  from Npp import editor, notepad
                  
                  class T1(object):
                  
                      def __init__(self):
                          search_phrase = 'like a fire'
                          while True:
                              search_phrase = notepad.prompt('\r\nEnter search phrase and press OK to find next:', '', search_phrase)
                              if search_phrase == None or len(search_phrase) == 0: return  # quit
                              word_list = search_phrase.strip().split()
                              regex = r'(?-is)(?(DEFINE)(\x20|\R|\R*\d{1,2}:.*\R))' + '(?1)'.join(word_list)
                              matches = []
                              editor.research(regex, lambda m: matches.append(m.span(0)), 0, editor.getCurrentPos(), editor.getLength(), 1)
                              if len(matches) == 0:
                                  notepad.messageBox('No (more) matches', '')
                                  return
                              else:
                                  (match_start, match_end) = matches[0]
                                  editor.scrollRange(match_end, match_start)
                                  editor.setSelection(match_end, match_start)
                  
                  if __name__ == '__main__': T1()
                  

                  When you run it, it will prompt you for your search phrase, like this:

                  Imgur

                  When you enter it and press OK, you will be shown your first match (it will become selected) and it will prompt again:

                  Imgur

                  It will continue moving downward in a file, until no more matches occur or you press Cancel.

                  Peter has some good instructions for getting started with the PythonScript plugin HERE.
                  See if you can get what I’ve shown working for you, and then we’ll talk about where to take it from here.

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                  • MaximillianMM
                    MaximillianM @Alan Kilborn
                    last edited by

                    @Alan-Kilborn Thanks, yes, I was able to get it to work!

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                    • MaximillianMM
                      MaximillianM @Alan Kilborn
                      last edited by

                      @Alan-Kilborn Hi Alan, Thanks for your help on this project can you point me in the right direction for the next step of adding code to use a preset list of words to find and replace? Thanks again :-)

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                      • Alan KilbornA
                        Alan Kilborn @MaximillianM
                        last edited by

                        @MaximillianM said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

                        use a preset list of words to find and replace

                        Sure; again let’s start small…

                        Let’s just put the list inside the code, but maybe make it look like it is coming from a file (because you may want to go there, later).

                        So I’d suggest a list like this:

                        ::findable_you:replaceable_you
                        :I can contain spaces:So I see
                        

                        where the format is:

                        • one-character delimiter
                        • find word/phrase
                        • delimiter (as previously defined by first character)
                        • replace word/phrase

                        In Python we might do it like this:

                        the_list = [
                            ':findable_you:replaceable_you',
                            ':I can contain spaces:So I see',
                            ':look_for_me:really_want_to_be_you',
                            '!simple!complex',
                            '$fire$liquify',
                        ]
                        

                        We need some code to process that list:

                        # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
                        
                        from Npp import editor
                        
                        class T2(object):
                        
                            def __init__(self):
                        
                                the_list = [
                                    ':findable_you:replaceable_you',
                                    ':I can contain spaces:So I see',
                                    ':look_for_me:really_want_to_be_you',
                                    '!simple!complex',
                                    '$fire$liquify',
                                ]
                        
                                editor.beginUndoAction()
                                for definition in the_list:
                                    delim = definition[0]
                                    (find_what, repl_with) = definition[1:].split(delim, 2)
                                    editor.replace(find_what, repl_with)
                                editor.endUndoAction()
                        
                        if __name__ == '__main__': T2()
                        
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                        • MaximillianMM
                          MaximillianM @Alan Kilborn
                          last edited by

                          @Alan-Kilborn Thanks! Yes, I like the idea of making it a separate file for ease of updates.

                          I experimented with the code.

                          What is the difference between using the ! or $ for the word in the list? They seem to do a similar find/replace in the example, at least in my small test. But I’m probably missing something.

                          The next step seems to be adding the search over multiple lines code as from your earlier example. How can I do that?

                          Thanks!

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                          • Alan KilbornA
                            Alan Kilborn @MaximillianM
                            last edited by

                            @MaximillianM said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

                            What is the difference between using the ! or $ for the word in the list? They seem to do a similar find/replace in the example, at least in my small test. But I’m probably missing something.

                            So the “delimiter” variability is useful if the data itself contains the delimiter.

                            Say we hardcoded the delimiter to be a colon (:).
                            Then if you wanted to replace something like a:b with c:d it would be difficult.

                            The way I defined it, you could just use a different delimiter for this case, e.g. !a:b!c:d.

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                            • Alan KilbornA
                              Alan Kilborn @MaximillianM
                              last edited by

                              @MaximillianM said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

                              The next step seems to be adding the search over multiple lines code as from your earlier example. How can I do that?

                              This is the point where I’m having trouble envisioning how it would work.
                              I know you said something about it before, but I didn’t quite understand it.

                              Would you put a special symbol in the replacement part that you’d want the timestamp to be replaced by?
                              Maybe a more in-depth walk-through (example(s)) of what is wanted?

                              I’m certainly willing to do it, or at least help you get started…

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                              • MaximillianMM
                                MaximillianM @Alan Kilborn
                                last edited by

                                @Alan-Kilborn Thanks again. I see you are helping many other people so I should have put a summary in to help you :-)

                                The problem
                                1-Simple Find and replace with a list of words (your most recent code does this)
                                2-Find and replace multi-word string that goes across a timestamp
                                Find “like a fire” replace with $2liquefy

                                0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                vaporize like a

                                0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                fire

                                I would like to combine the most recent code with this one (minus the manual entry box so it could use the list as in your most recent code) to search across the time stamp.

                                -- coding: utf-8 --

                                from Npp import editor, notepad

                                class T1(object):

                                def __init__(self):
                                    search_phrase = 'like a fire'
                                    while True:
                                        search_phrase = notepad.prompt('\r\nEnter search phrase and press OK to find next:', '', search_phrase)
                                        if search_phrase == None or len(search_phrase) == 0: return  # quit
                                        word_list = search_phrase.strip().split()
                                        regex = r'(?-is)(?(DEFINE)(\x20|\R|\R*\d{1,2}:.*\R))' + '(?1)'.join(word_list)
                                        matches = []
                                        editor.research(regex, lambda m: matches.append(m.span(0)), 0, editor.getCurrentPos(), editor.getLength(), 1)
                                        if len(matches) == 0:
                                            notepad.messageBox('No (more) matches', '')
                                            return
                                        else:
                                            (match_start, match_end) = matches[0]
                                            editor.scrollRange(match_end, match_start)
                                            editor.setSelection(match_end, match_start)
                                

                                if name == ‘main’: T1()

                                Thanks again :-)

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                                • Alan KilbornA
                                  Alan Kilborn @MaximillianM
                                  last edited by

                                  @MaximillianM said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

                                  Find “like a fire” replace with $2liquefy
                                  0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                  vaporize like a
                                  0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                  fire

                                  Yes, you used this example before, but I didn’t fully understand it.
                                  I take it the $2 represents the bridged timestamp, and where it would appear in the replacement text.

                                  BTW, why $2?
                                  Is it because a search match could possibly bridge two timestamps?
                                  And $1 might possibly appear in the replace expression as well?
                                  Or $3 etc?

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                                  • MaximillianMM
                                    MaximillianM @Alan Kilborn
                                    last edited by

                                    @Alan-Kilborn Hi, I’m a beginner and was just using the $2 that astrosofista suggested in this post so I don’t fully understand it.

                                    He suggested
                                    Search: (?x-s) \x20like (\x20 | \R | \R* \d{1,2} : .*\R) a ((?1)) fire
                                    Replace: $2liquefy

                                    If I don’t use the $2 before the replacement word then the timestamp is removed in the replacement. I tried $1 and $3 before the replacement word as a test and the time stamp was removed in both cases.

                                    Putting the replacement expression in the second part of the string (second timestamp) is preferable as it is the most likely scenario.

                                    Just one bridged time-stamp is the basic requirement, in the future I might look at across multiple time-stamps.

                                    There a blank line between the timestamp/phrase as in the example below.
                                    $1, $2, $3, would not be present in the text so ok to use in our expression.

                                    Find “like a fire” replace (end of expression) with liquefy

                                    0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                    vaporize like a

                                    0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                    fire

                                    0:00:22.400,0:00:24.300
                                    next phrase

                                    Thanks :-)

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                                    • Alan KilbornA
                                      Alan Kilborn @MaximillianM
                                      last edited by

                                      @MaximillianM said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

                                      I’m a beginner and was just using the $2 that astrosofista suggested in this post so I don’t fully understand it.

                                      I’m not a beginner, but I don’t see how this is going to work in the bigger scheme of things. I mean, well, maybe I see can see it if I squint at it, but I don’t have the desire/time to sort out the regexes needed down to the Nth level so that every situation is covered.

                                      I think finding the matches is one level of difficulty (which has already been conquered), but replacing them introduces a whole new level of complexity to it. Even the single bridged timestamp can be nuancy when you really think about some examples that a generic replace could encounter.

                                      I’m sorry if I misrepresented that I would do the whole solution for your “list” based replacement. My intent was to demo a few things to show what’s possible with scripting, not come up with a full-blown solution for some very specific data.

                                      If someone else (@guy038 loves to do this sort of thing, or maybe @PeterJones since he got the original ball rolling) is willing to do it, I can certainly help put together the final script using the information. What is needed is a find/replace regex pair that would walk through a document doing the replacements desired.

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                                      • guy038G
                                        guy038
                                        last edited by guy038

                                        Hello, @maximillianm, @peterjones, @alan-kilborn, @astrosofista and All,

                                        @maximillianm, I assume that the timestamp always begins lines of your file, without any leading blank characters ! If it’s not the case, just tell me !

                                        Here is a generic regex which searches any range of text, containing one timestamp feature, and replace it with any range of text, still containing the same timestamp

                                        SEARCH (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R)(*F)|(?-i)Before_Find_Text((?1))After_Find_Text

                                        REPLACE Before_Replace_Text\2After_Replace_Text

                                        where :

                                        • Before_Find_Text represents the text to search, located BEFORE the time-stamp line

                                        • After_Find_Text represents the text to search, located AFTER the time-stamp line

                                        • Before_Replace_Text represents the text to replace BEFORE the time-stamp line

                                        • After_Replace_Text represents the text to replace AFTER the time-stamp line


                                        First example :

                                        Given your initial text :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        vaporize like a
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        fire
                                        

                                        And the expected result :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        vaporize
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        liquefy
                                        

                                        The different variable parts of the generic regex S/R are :

                                        • Before_Find_Text = vaporize like a

                                        • After_Find_Text = fire

                                        • Before_Replace_Text = vaporize

                                        • After_Replace_Text = liquefy

                                        which gives the functional regex S/R :

                                        SEARCH (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R)(*F)|(?-i)vaporize like a((?1))fire

                                        REPLACE vaporize\2liquefy


                                        Second example :

                                        Given this initial example, taken from my previous post :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        The licenses for most software are designed to
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        take away your freedom to share and change it.
                                        

                                        And the expected result :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        The licenses for most software are generally made to
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        always suppress your freedom to share and change it.
                                        

                                        The different variable parts of the generic regex S/R are, this time :

                                        • Before_Find_Text = designed to

                                        • After_Find_Text = take away

                                        • Before_Replace_Text = generally made to

                                        • After_Replace_Text = always suppress

                                        which gives the functional regex S/R :

                                        SEARCH (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R)(*F)|(?-i)designed to((?1))take away

                                        REPLACE generally made to\2always suppress


                                        Third example :

                                        Given, again, this initial example, taken from my previous post :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        The licenses for most software are designed to
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        take away your freedom to share and change it.
                                        

                                        And the expected result :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        The licenses for most software are
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        designed to suppress your freedom.
                                        

                                        The different variable parts of the generic regex S/R are, this time :

                                        • Before_Find_Text = are designed to

                                        • After_Find_Text = take away your freedom to share and change it

                                        • Before_Replace_Text = are

                                        • After_Replace_Text = designed to suppress your freedom

                                        which gives the functional regex S/R :

                                        SEARCH (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R)(*F)|(?-i)are designed to((?1))take away your freedom to share and change it

                                        REPLACE are\2designed to suppress your freedom


                                        Fourth example :

                                        Given this initial example :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        The licenses for most software are designed to
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        take away your freedom to share and change it.
                                        

                                        And the expected result :

                                        0:00:17.680,0:00:20.400
                                        The licenses for most software
                                        
                                        0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400
                                        prevent you from sharing and changing it.
                                        

                                        The different variable parts of the generic regex S/R are, this time :

                                        • Before_Find_Text = software are designed to

                                        • After_Find_Text = take away your freedom to share and change

                                        • Before_Replace_Text = software

                                        • After_Replace_Text = prevent you from sharing and changing

                                        which gives the functional regex S/R :

                                        SEARCH (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R)(*F)|(?-i)software are designed to((?1))take away your freedom to share and change

                                        REPLACE software\2prevent you from sharing and changing


                                        Notes :

                                        • The first alternative of this search regex (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R)(*F) is never matched, due to backtracking control verb (*F) which forces a failure of the match attempt.

                                        • However, the regex (\R+\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3},\d{1,2}:\d\d:\d\d\.\d{3}\R), which would match any range of line-breaks, followed with a complete timestamp line, is stored in group1 for later use, in the second alternative of the search regex

                                        • As you can see, the timestamp 0:00:19.840,0:00:22.400 is kept, after replacement because it’s stored in group 2 ( Current timestamp value of the subroutine call (?1), in the regex part ((?1)) ! )

                                        • If you prefer an “insensitive to case” search, simply change the part (?-i) by (?i)

                                        Best regards

                                        guy038

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                                        • Alan KilbornA
                                          Alan Kilborn
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                                          @guy038 said:

                                          Before_Find_Text = vaporize like a
                                          After_Find_Text = fire

                                          Before_Find_Text = designed to
                                          After_Find_Text = take away

                                          Before_Find_Text = are designed to
                                          After_Find_Text = take away your freedom to share and change it

                                          Before_Find_Text = software are designed to
                                          After_Find_Text = take away your freedom to share and change

                                          But the OP wants to simply specify the following for each of those searches:

                                          • vaporize like a fire
                                          • designed to take away
                                          • are designed to take away your freedom to share and change it
                                          • software are designed to take away your freedom to share and change

                                          In other words, transparency of the timestamp and where it occurs.
                                          Thus, timestamp could occur at any one of the following points (denoted by TS):

                                          • vaporizeTSlikeTSaTSfire
                                          • designedTStoTStakeTSaway
                                          • areTSdesignedTStoTStakeTSawayTSyourTSfreedomTStoTSshareTSandTSchangeTSit
                                          • softwareTSareTSdesignedTStoTStakeTSawayTSyourTSfreedomTStoTSshareTSandTSchange

                                          And, this problem has already been solved, by Peter, way above.
                                          What is needed now is a replacement regex that works, for all cases of a generic substitution, to accompany the original regex scheme.

                                          Now, ok, it is fine if the orginal search regex mutates somewhat to meet this need, but the “spirit” of it needs to be retained.

                                          And, it may be simpler than I think it is, truly. But what I don’t want to have happen is the usual – people put a lot of time into it, and then the reality of it is that a different problem was solved than what was wanted.

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                                          • PeterJonesP
                                            PeterJones @Alan Kilborn
                                            last edited by

                                            @Alan-Kilborn said in Captions for video - Find and Replace across time stamps:

                                            What is needed now is a replacement regex that works, for all cases of a generic substitution, to accompany the original regex scheme.

                                            So, the problem with the expression developed by me and @astrosofista , if I’ve understood my catching up with this discussion, is that when you have the “vaporizeTSlikeTSaTSfire”, the last of the timestamps is in group 3 instead of group 2. Or if there are more timestamps, the one you want to keep is always only the final timestamp. (I assume always the final timestamp, because that makes the most sense to me from the way that the OP originally phrased it)

                                            If I understand what you’re doing in your PythonScript, you are just building the regex based on joining the elements of word_list with (?1) (which doesn’t create that final capture group that @astrosofista added to make the replacement work better)

                                            Could you instead join all elements except the last with (?1) and then manually append ((?1)) and word_list[n-1] to the end: '(?1)'.join(word_list[0:n-1]) + '((?1))' + word_list[n-1] – this would then have the group2 always be the final space or timestamp.

                                            That would have worked, except I realized that if our phrase were in the subtitle file as “first twoTSmiddleTSlast two”, so it spans multiple timestamps, but might have multiple words per timestamp, then my put-the-group2-around-the-last-backreference wouldn’t work, because the backreference matches either spaces or the timestamps, so it would throw away the final timestamp and just capture the final space, which isn’t what we want.

                                            At this point, I’d be more tempted to build a regex that captured each of the spaces or TS ('((?1))'.join(word_list)), and use editor.rereplace with a callback rather than a literal replace. That way, in the callback, you can look at each element from m.group and use a space for all the separators except the very last timestamp, which should be kept. I don’t have the time right now to implement that… but I think that’s the direction I’d go at this point.

                                            (Doing a search-and-replace where the match and replacement can go across multiple timestamps is a convoluted mess.)

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