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    • NicholasN
      Nicholas
      last edited by

      NppShell.dll is used to put the “Edit with Notepad++” into the file explorer context menu.

      Since you are using 64bit Windows I would recommend using the 64bit version of Notepad++. Try the portable version first to check all your extensions work. You will need to use the plugin admin to download the 64bit versions or manually get the correct version.

      If you don’t want to change versions, then you could try using the installer to disable the “Context Menu Entry”.

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      • NicholasN
        Nicholas @Mark Colvin
        last edited by

        @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

        OS Name : Windows 8 Pro (64-bit)
        OS Version : 24H2

        This doesn’t look right. 24H2 is a Windows 11 version. There could be a bug where they are detecting the wrong version and trying to do something with the new Windows 11 context menu.

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        • Mark ColvinM
          Mark Colvin @Terry R
          last edited by Mark Colvin

          @Terry-R ,

          1. This laptop computer is running a complete Win11 Pro OS. - MAC is named related identification.
          2. Not recently checked plugin versioning. I will do that soon. [edit] performed plug-in updates, still crashed Explorer.
          3. I assume that you suggested read my help with Windows Explorer random crashes when no directly using NPP?
          4. That may be possible, but how can I tell this action is related to Explorer crashes?

          Thanks.

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          • Mark ColvinM
            Mark Colvin @Nicholas
            last edited by

            @Nicholas
            There were reasons during Win10 x64 usage of staying with NPP x32 instead of NPP x64. I don’t remember that reason at the moment. I think it had to do with another Windows apps running at the same time as NPP and there were problems. I will try to find the details on this decision.

            But I will try disable the Content Menu feature on NPP to see if the Explorer crashes go away.
            I can also try switching back to NPP x64 to see if I can find the reason for staying with NPP x32.

            Thanks.

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            • xomxX
              xomx @Mark Colvin
              last edited by

              @Mark-Colvin

              It is a buffer overflow caused somehow by the NppShell.dll in the Windows Explorer process. As a temporary workaround, you can disable this shell extension by going to your C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\contextMenu\ folder and run there this command in cmd (with admin rights): regsvr32 /u NppShell.dll

              This is a known problem for some users (they reported it for x64 too) but unfortunately I was not able to reproduce it, so I cannot say if it is a problem of NppShell shell extension, Notepad++ app or some other SW. It can also be a conflict with some other shell extension installed in your system (otherwise I cannot explain why most Notepad++ users do not have this problem).

              If you switch to x64 Notepad++ with its x64 NppShell and you still get these Explorer crashes, you can try to follow these instructions to help me with debugging of the issue:
              https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/15683#issuecomment-2492113826

              @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

              OS Name : Windows 8 Pro (64-bit)

              I am also surprised to see this info when according to your post it should be reported as Win10 or Win11.

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              • xomxX
                xomx @Mark Colvin
                last edited by xomx

                @Mark-Colvin

                Could you please report your Windows Registry relevant info:

                1. Save the following to a file (named e.g. WinVerRegKeys-export.cmd) somewhere writable on your disk:
                PowerShell "$Key='HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion'; Get-ItemProperty -Path $Key -Name *" > WinVerRegKeys64.txt
                PowerShell "$Key='HKLM:\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion'; Get-ItemProperty -Path $Key -Name *" > WinVerRegKeys32.txt
                
                1. Run the WinVerRegKeys-export.cmd batch file by e.g. doubleclicking on it in Explorer.
                2. Take the contents of the created WinVerRegKeys32.txt and WinVerRegKeys64.txt files and post them please here.
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                • Mark ColvinM
                  Mark Colvin @xomx
                  last edited by PeterJones

                  @xomx ,
                  posted here are the files you requested.

                  Also, I uninstalled NPP x32 and not seen any Windows Explorer errors nor crashes for over 48 hours. (normal laptop usage, about 6 to 10 hours per day)

                  WinVerRegKeys32.txt

                  
                  BaseBuildRevisionNumber   : 1
                  BuildBranch               : ge_release
                  BuildGUID                 : ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff
                  BuildLab                  : 26100.ge_release.240331-1435
                  BuildLabEx                : 26100.1.amd64fre.ge_release.240331-1435
                  CompositionEditionID      : Enterprise
                  CurrentBuild              : 26100
                  CurrentBuildNumber        : 26100
                  CurrentMajorVersionNumber : 10
                  CurrentMinorVersionNumber : 0
                  CurrentType               : Multiprocessor Free
                  CurrentVersion            : 6.3
                  DisplayVersion            : 24H2
                  EditionID                 : Enterprise
                  EditionSubManufacturer    : 
                  EditionSubstring          : 
                  EditionSubVersion         : 
                  InstallationType          : Client
                  InstallDate               : 0
                  ProductName               : Windows 10 Enterprise
                  ReleaseId                 : 2009
                  SoftwareType              : System
                  SystemRoot                : C:\WINDOWS
                  UBR                       : 2894
                  RegisteredOwner           : __________@gmail.com
                  PSPath                    : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windo
                                              ws NT\CurrentVersion
                  PSParentPath              : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windo
                                              ws NT
                  PSChildName               : CurrentVersion
                  PSDrive                   : HKLM
                  PSProvider                : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry
                  
                  

                  WinVerRegKeys64.txt

                  
                  
                  SystemRoot                : C:\WINDOWS
                  BaseBuildRevisionNumber   : 1
                  BuildBranch               : ge_release
                  BuildGUID                 : ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff
                  BuildLab                  : 26100.ge_release.240331-1435
                  BuildLabEx                : 26100.1.amd64fre.ge_release.240331-1435
                  CompositionEditionID      : Enterprise
                  CurrentBuild              : 26100
                  CurrentBuildNumber        : 26100
                  CurrentMajorVersionNumber : 10
                  CurrentMinorVersionNumber : 0
                  CurrentType               : Multiprocessor Free
                  CurrentVersion            : 6.3
                  DisplayVersion            : 24H2
                  EditionID                 : Professional
                  EditionSubManufacturer    : 
                  EditionSubstring          : 
                  EditionSubVersion         : 
                  InstallationType          : Client
                  InstallDate               : 1732282151
                  LCUVer                    : 10.0.26100.2894
                  ProductName               : Windows 10 Pro
                  ReleaseId                 : 2009
                  SoftwareType              : System
                  UBR                       : 2894
                  PathName                  : C:\Windows
                  PendingInstall            : 0
                  ProductId                 : 00330-53097-84373-AAOEM
                  DigitalProductId          : {164, 0, 0, 0...}
                  DigitalProductId4         : {248, 4, 0, 0...}
                  RegisteredOwner           : __________@gmail.com
                  InstallTime               : 133767557516344286
                  PSPath                    : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
                                              NT\CurrentVersion
                  PSParentPath              : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT
                  PSChildName               : CurrentVersion
                  PSDrive                   : HKLM
                  PSProvider                : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry
                  
                  
                  

                  Sorry, not enough karma to attach files to posts yet. Supplied as code.

                  Mark
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                  moderator edited to remove real email address

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                  • xomxX
                    xomx @Mark Colvin
                    last edited by

                    @Mark-Colvin

                    Thanks.
                    But I didn’t find anything wrong in your data (that could explain your previously reported Win8).

                    But all this gives me the idea that perhaps the affected users here have something unusual/wrong in their Registry, which in turn causes the N++ shell extension to crash. I have checked the NppShell source code and indeed - some parts of the code are not the best in terms of resilience to unexpected input or some resource or data unavailability. I didn’t manage to crash Explorer exactly the same way as all affected users report, but in principle that could be it (maybe I just didn’t simulate the right bad data in the Registry).

                    I’ll try to raise some questions in the NppShell project issues.

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                    • Mark ColvinM
                      Mark Colvin @xomx
                      last edited by

                      @xomx ,

                      Update: I installed npp.8.7.5.Installer.x64 five days ago without Context Menu feature and fewer plugins. So far, no Windows Explorer crashes.

                      I really miss the Context Menu feature, NPP is so easy to open many file types with this quick step for a quick peek.

                      I will re-configure NPP soon with Context Menu turned on and see if the problem returns. Any advice on data collection for this issue if it re-occurs?

                      TIA,
                      Mark

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                      • xomxX
                        xomx
                        last edited by xomx

                        @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                        Any advice on data collection for this issue if it re-occurs?

                        As I already said:

                        @xomx said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                        If you switch to x64 Notepad++ with its x64 NppShell and you still get these Explorer crashes, you can try to follow these instructions to help me with debugging of the issue:
                        https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/15683#issuecomment-2492113826

                        So if you can, please follow the instructions in that GitHub comment and then somehow forward me the relevant Explorer crash dump file generated along with a possible NppShell.log.

                        If the GitHub procedure seems too complicated for you - the main thing is to get the crash-dump file while using my special version of the “C:\Program Files\Notepad++\contextMenu\NppShell.dll”, so download it and after the usual reinstall of your Notepad++ with the shell context extension, replace the standard NppShell.dll file there with the file from this archive: https://github.com/user-attachments/files/17850910/NppShell_v1500_x64_Debug.zip

                        If you have any questions about the GitHub instructions, do not hesitate to ask me.

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                        • Mark ColvinM
                          Mark Colvin @xomx
                          last edited by

                          @xomx ,
                          Thank you for the alternatives on this investigation. I will update as I get more information.

                          Thanks again,
                          Mark

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                          • Mark ColvinM
                            Mark Colvin @Mark Colvin
                            last edited by

                            @xomx,
                            Posted dump file and error dialog at:
                            https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/15683#issuecomment-2492113826

                            Saw when open .ZIP file… got the error dialog, clicked retry, and all explorer windows vanished.
                            Hope it helps…

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                            • Mark ColvinM
                              Mark Colvin @Mark Colvin
                              last edited by

                              @xomx,
                              5 hours later, another error with NppShell.DLL, but no new dump file created.
                              This occurred during a copy/paste operation from one Window to another.

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                              • xomxX
                                xomx
                                last edited by

                                @Mark-Colvin

                                Could you please check if you are not running N++ in Windows8 compatibility mode? More about it here.

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                                • Mark ColvinM
                                  Mark Colvin @xomx
                                  last edited by

                                  @xomx
                                  How does this compatibility mode affect the Explorer context menu invocations?
                                  The one Shortcut I have is NOW set to Compatibility mode with Windows 8. But rarely use it directly…

                                  What about the errors with NppShell.DLL which occur without NP++ even turned on?
                                  (I am missing something on how this NppShell.DLL works outside of NP++)
                                  See NppShell.log files posted in github thread…

                                  Thanks,
                                  Mark

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                                  • xomxX
                                    xomx @Mark Colvin
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mark-Colvin said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                                    How does this compatibility mode affect the Explorer context menu invocations?

                                    Good point, this probably influences the N++ app only and not the NppShell extension DLL invoked by the shell Explorer.

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                                    • David MSD
                                      David MS
                                      last edited by

                                      Hello,

                                      I have also constantly the problem that NppShell.dll crashes the Windows 11 Explorer.
                                      After uninstalling Notepad++ the explorer runs without crahes.

                                      I use the latest version of Notepad++ (8.7.9).

                                      Does exists a workaround or a fix?

                                      Thank you very much.

                                      Best regards,

                                      David

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                                      • xomxX
                                        xomx @David MS
                                        last edited by

                                        @David-MS said in Notepad++ v8.7.1 (32-bit) NppShell.dll is intermittently crashing Windows Explorer.:

                                        Does exists a workaround

                                        If you mean by this a workaround to not have to completely uninstall the N++ for preventing the Explorer crashes, then yes - unregistering of the NppShell context-menu handler helps: https://community.notepad-plus-plus.org/post/99261

                                        or a fix?

                                        I could not exactly reproduce the issue myself but found some potential problematic places in the NppShell source code and put a “hardening” of that code to my TODO. Unfortunately not enough free time yet. More info and possible future progress in the GitHub issue.

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