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    Scott Sumner @Volkan Çolak
    last edited by Oct 10, 2018, 5:04 PM

    @Volkan-Çolak said:

    my question is more of…

    Maybe you should have asked THAT question in the first place.

    Why not view it in a browser and then select and copy the text from there? Clearly we are missing something about this, but you’re going to have to tell what that is before anyone can really help.

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      Volkan Çolak
      last edited by Oct 10, 2018, 5:12 PM

      My english is not perfect like yours. I am sorry about that. When i open it with browser, still i can see the HTML codes.

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        Scott Sumner @Volkan Çolak
        last edited by Oct 10, 2018, 5:17 PM

        @Volkan-Çolak said:

        My english is not perfect like yours

        Mine’s perfect?? no…no…no…

        Well, you CAN post here in your native language, and most browsers have a “translate this page” option and potential helpers can look at what you’ve written using that method…so if you think that will help you express yourself better, by all means, go ahead.

        I do maintain, however, that you did change the problem fully.

        Unfortunately, I’m out of ideas for you; maybe someone else has something that will help.

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          PeterJones
          last edited by PeterJones Oct 10, 2018, 5:33 PM Oct 10, 2018, 5:31 PM

          No, when you open the XML file in the browser, what you see is XML tags. You do not see HTML tags (ie, <Data ss:Type="String"> is XML, not HTML). It shows the XML tags because unless you tell the browser how to interpret and present the XML, the browser will default to showing you the tags, because it cannot know what any random XML tag should be interpreted as in terms of equivalent HTML / presentation.

          I stand by my assertion that what you’re really asking for is an XML WYSIWYG editor, which hides the XML tags from you, allowing you to focus on just the content (the plaintext between the tags, “the part I want to see that visible”).

          I just went and grabbed an example XML file , and opened it in Microsoft Word; when you tell MS Word to interpret the file as XML, it then gets rid of the tags, and just shows the underlying data. You would then be able to copy to your heart’s content. (I don’t know whether you’d be able to edit/save and still have it be valid XML.)

          It would very much surprise me if free alternative word processors (such as OpenOffice or LibreOffice Writer) didn’t do something similar with XML. (Sorry, I would have tested, but the only OpenOffice I have access to right now is so old it doesn’t know what XML is. I’m sure a modern one would know.)

          Alternatively, search around for “XML WYSIWYG editor” or similar.

          Notepad++ is a great text editor, with lots of features and can be easily extended through plugins… but it is not a word processor, and it is not a WYSIWYG editor which tries to hide the underlying structure so you can focus on content. There may actually be a plugin that does what you want, but I don’t know of any.

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            PeterJones
            last edited by Oct 10, 2018, 5:44 PM

            Also, if all you’re wanting to do is clean out all the XML tags, so that you can copy the contents/data and do something else with it, you could use a pretty simple regular expression to strip the XML tags. (This wouldn’t let you edit the XML… ie, if you strip out the tags, make an edit, and hit save, it will save the plain text, without any of the XML structure)

            • Find What = (?s)<[^>]+>
            • Replace with = `` (empty)
            • regular expression

            (Note, if your attribute values have a >, this won’t work.)

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              Volkan Çolak
              last edited by Oct 11, 2018, 6:40 AM

              Yes sadly i have >. Thanks for everything who trying to help, let me show you the “exactly” what i want. But it translates all codes as well. If i cannot find, i will try to “re-translate” tags to their original values but sadly i have many tags.

              http://i.hizliresim.com/dBpddD.png

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                guy038
                last edited by Oct 11, 2018, 4:29 PM

                Hello, @volkan-çolak,

                I saw, one minute ago, that you’re on-line on our site ! So, just be patient one hour, about, as I found out a solution to your problem and I’m preparing a post to give you the method ;-))

                See you later,

                guy038

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                  guy038
                  last edited by guy038 Oct 12, 2018, 11:28 AM Oct 11, 2018, 6:27 PM

                  Hello, @volkan-çolak, @peterjones, @scott-sumner and All,

                  Aaaaah ! Yes, it took me some time to completely figure out your tricky problem, but I finally found out a solution ;-)) This method is long enough and I advice you to read this post, completely, before going ahead with the different steps to perform !

                  This method consists, principally, in :

                  • Some copy/paste operations, of course

                  • An N++ sort operation

                  • Several searches/replacements, which will use the regular expression search mode

                  In this respect, for each S/R, simply follow these steps :

                  • Open the N++ Replace dialog ( Ctrl + H )

                  • Type in ( or copy/paste ) the SEARCH  regex in the Find what: zone

                  • Type in ( or copy/paste ) the REPLACE  regex in the Replace with: zone

                  • Set the Wrap around option

                  • Select the Regular expression search mode

                  • Click on the Replace All button ( Do not use the Replace button ! )

                  Well, now, let’s go !


                  • From your picture, I simply created a similar code, while trying to get a correct sequence, as below, which represents a short part of your data :
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Retreat</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Tears</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Dialog.Option.101.Text</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Scenario Data</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">The orc shamans want to join you.</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">The orc shamans want to join you.</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Dialog.Option.358.OptionText</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Scenario Data</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Accept</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Accept</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Dialog.Option.358.OptionText</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Scenario Data</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  
                  • First, I strongly advice you to do a copy of your original data

                  Remark : We, all, should act as Mother Nature does : it never uses ADN genetic code. It always replicates it, first, as an ARN sequence, which, then, is used for any bio-chemical action ! Believe me, it’s been working… … … for 3,7 billion years !

                  • So, open a COPY of your original file, in Notepad++

                  • Now, using the first S/R, below, it should extract all the white zones of text, that you spoke of, in your picture

                  SEARCH (?s)\s*<.+?"String">\s*|<.+

                  REPLACE \r\n ( or \n if you work on Unix files )

                  You should obtain the different lines, below :

                  Retreat
                  Tears
                  Dialog.Option.101.Text
                  Scenario Data
                  The orc shamans want to join you.
                  The orc shamans want to join you.
                  Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Scenario Data
                  Accept
                  Accept
                  Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Scenario Data
                  
                  • Choose, now, the menu command Edit > Line Operations > Sort Lines Lexicographically Ascending. your text becomes sorted, as below :
                  Accept
                  Accept
                  Dialog.Option.101.Text
                  Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Retreat
                  Scenario Data
                  Scenario Data
                  Scenario Data
                  Tears
                  The orc shamans want to join you.
                  The orc shamans want to join you.
                  
                  • Perform, then, the following S/R, in order to delete all duplicate lines of that list :

                  SEARCH ^(.*\R)\1+

                  REPLACE \1

                  you should obtain this shortened list :

                  Accept
                  Dialog.Option.101.Text
                  Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Retreat
                  Scenario Data
                  Tears
                  The orc shamans want to join you.
                  

                  • Now, paste the different lines of this American-English text, on an on-line translator. You said that you generally, use the Google one, but, personally, I prefer the translator, below, based on neuronal networks, which is really very efficient ::-)

                  https://www.deepl.com/translator

                  Well. So, let’s imagine that we would like to translate in French, using deepl.com site. We get the French list, below, that we paste, back, in N++ :

                  Accepter
                  Option.de.dialogue.101.Texte
                  Option.Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Se retirer
                  Données de scénario
                  Larmes
                  Les chamans orcs veulent se joindre à vous.
                  

                  I simply changed the French nom "Retraite " with the French verb "Se retirer ", which is better, given the context !


                  • Now, we’re about to build the correct file, in order to run our last S/R ! So, in a new N++ tab :

                    • Insert your original data, first :

                    • Add a new line, made up several equal signs as, for instance ==================

                    • Append all the English sentences, that we extracted, at first step

                    • Add, again, a line ==================

                    • Finally, add the French sentences, obtained from the on-line translator

                  This text should be, as below :

                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Retreat</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Tears</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Dialog.Option.101.Text</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Scenario Data</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">The orc shamans want to join you.</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">The orc shamans want to join you.</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Dialog.Option.358.OptionText</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Scenario Data</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Accept</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Accept</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Dialog.Option.358.OptionText</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Scenario Data</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  ===================================================
                  Accept
                  Dialog.Option.101.Text
                  Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Retreat
                  Scenario Data
                  Tears
                  The orc shamans want to join you.
                  ===================================================
                  Accepter
                  Option.de.dialogue.101.Texte
                  Option.Dialog.Option.358.OptionText
                  Se Retirer
                  Données de scénario
                  Larmes
                  Les chamans orcs veulent se joindre à vous.
                  

                  Almost done !

                  • We just have to run the last regex S/R, below, which changes all American/English sentences, in your code, with the matched French translation of these sentences !

                  SEARCH (?-s)(?<="String">)(.+?)(?=</Data>(?s).+^=+.*?\R\1\R(?-s)(?:.+\R){7}(.+))|(?s)^=+.+

                  REPLACE \2

                  IMPORTANT : The number seven, in the syntax {7}, is the total number of lines translated. Thus, le number 7, in our example


                  After replacement, you’re left with the expected text, containing translated “white” sentences, only ;-))

                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Se Retirer</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Larmes</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Option.de.dialogue.101.Texte</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Données de scénario</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Les chamans orcs veulent se joindre à vous.</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Les chamans orcs veulent se joindre à vous.</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Option.Dialog.Option.358.OptionText</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Données de scénario</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  <Row ss:StyleID="s3">
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Accepter</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Accepter</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Option.Dialog.Option.358.OptionText</Data>
                    </Cell>
                    <Cell>
                      <Data ss:Type="String">Données de scénario</Data>
                    </Cell>
                  </Row>
                  

                  Et voilà !

                  Next time, I’ll give you some explanations on the regexes used, if you want to !

                  Best Regards,

                  guy038

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                    Jim Dailey
                    last edited by Oct 11, 2018, 7:43 PM

                    @guy038

                    Incroyable ! Nous avons besoin d’un bouton de vote à la hausse qui ajoute 10 votes !

                    :-)

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                      PeterJones
                      last edited by Oct 11, 2018, 7:48 PM

                      Assuming that says what I think it says (I saw “button vote … 10 votes”), I second that motion. Actually, I square that motion; I would give +100 for that answser. :-)

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                        guy038
                        last edited by Oct 11, 2018, 8:11 PM

                        Hi, @jim-dailey and @peterJones,

                        Thank you, guys, but I believe that we should remain modest ! Anyway, you, both, provide very detailed posts on various topics, too ! So, I could return the compliment to you !

                        We, all, just do our best to help anyone, when we think of a right solution ;-))

                        Cheers,

                        guy038

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                          Jim Dailey
                          last edited by Oct 11, 2018, 8:19 PM

                          @guy038

                          guy038> Thank you, guys, but I believe that we should remain modest !

                          Not to invite or start a political war, but I have to say, you’ll never be President of the U.S. with that kind of attitude!

                          :-)

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                            Volkan Çolak @guy038
                            last edited by Oct 12, 2018, 9:58 AM

                            @guy038 Omg i haven’t read it yet but even if you succeed or not, you deserve respect. Before i begin (tonight i will available) i truly wanted to thank you so much!

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                              Volkan Çolak @Jim Dailey
                              last edited by Oct 12, 2018, 4:27 PM

                              @Jim-Dailey Ehm. First of all thank you but it seems my knowledge + my english is unsufficient for this :( i felt guilty but i wasn’t expected it to be a difficult like this. I was tought it could be the plugin that can hides html codes :(

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                                Jim Dailey
                                last edited by Oct 12, 2018, 7:34 PM

                                @Volkan-Çolak

                                I think we are having language difficulties.

                                I did not help answer your question at all, so I’m not sure why you would thank me. But, you are welcome!

                                I just tried to praise @guy038 for his amazing answer (using the site he mentioned, https://www.deepl.com/translator , so that I could post in French, which I assume is Guy’s native language).

                                Then made a poor joke about his reply to my French posting.

                                I think you will find Guy’s post very useful. Best of luck!

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                                  guy038
                                  last edited by guy038 Oct 12, 2018, 9:33 PM Oct 12, 2018, 9:27 PM

                                  Hi, @jim-dailey,

                                  To be honest, the Google translation, of the American/English text, of my previous post, in French, wasn’t so bad, either !

                                  But I suppose that neuronal networks are, definitively, a + for translation matters and I was, also, a bit impressed by the press comments about DeepL translator performances ;-))

                                  Cheers,

                                  guy038

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