No suggestions - spellchecker

[Stef Ks]

Re: Spell Check Not Working

I have recently installed Npad++ but word replacement suggestions do not show … just the red line! Using the latest Npad++ on Win10 (v2004)

any suggestions?

[PeterJones]

@Stef-Ks ,

1. Plugins > Plugins Admin: enable DSpellCheck and select Install
2. Plugins > DSpellCheck > About: I now have DSpellCheck v1.4.16.0
3. Plugins > DSpellCheck > Settings: click on Download, select English (United States), and Install Selected
4. Apply then OK
5. Type this is misspent here, and the third word (missplet) gets squiggles
6. Right click on missplet, and context menu gives me plenty of spell-check actions (though I happened to pick a misspelling that wasn’t interpreted as a misspelling of misspelled – sorry).

If this is insufficient help for you, I highly recommend actually supplying information when asking for help. You neglected to tell us what spell checker you were using (there are others available than the DSpellCheck I showed above), along with what version of the spell checker you were using. You neglected to tell us what version of Notepad++ you were using: the best thing to do for Notepad++ version when asking for help here is to include the output of ?-menu, Debug Info – either via a screenshot pasted into your reply, or by clicking Copy debug info into clipboard and pasting that text in your reply. (And no, “the latest” is not useful information – your definition or interpretation of “the latest” might not be the same as reality. New versions do not get pushed to Notepad++'s check-for-updates feature right away… So “the latest” might be anywhere from v7.8.7 to v7.8.9 in your opinion… or even older if you turned off auto-updates without remembering; “the latest” also doesn’t tell us whether you have 32-bit or 64-bit, which is often useful information. )

[Stef Ks]

Thanks for the attempted help - debug info here:

Notepad++ v7.8.9 (64-bit)
Build time : Jul 15 2020 - 20:31:49
Path : C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe
Admin mode : OFF
Local Conf mode : OFF
OS Name : Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
OS Version : 2004
OS Build : 19041.488
Current ANSI codepage : 1252
Plugins : DSpellCheck.dll MenuIcons.dll mimeTools.dll NppConverter.dll NppExport.dll _CustomizeToolbar.dll

…still no joy

[PeterJones]

@Stef-Ks ,

Can you show a screenshot of your DSpellCheck settings?

[andrecool-68]

@Stef-Ks Check if the spelling dictionary files have been downloaded and if these dictionaries are included for your language.

[Stef Ks]

@PeterJones

here the screenshot and even setting Multiple Languages does not change a thing

[Frustrated Surfer]

@PeterJones Worked great, thanks.

[PeterJones]

@Stef-Ks said in No suggestions - spellchecker:

here the screenshot

I am sorry. Everything looks right from your end. It almost seems like it’s trying to use the “Special Suggestion Button” rather than the “N++ Context Menu”, but your settings show the latter as selected.

When I have “Special Suggestions Button” enabled, the RightClick context menu doesn’t show suggestions; instead, there’s a weird down-arrow button… but when I try pressing that, nothing happens:

Maybe yours got stuck halfway between the two, so nothing is showing up. Try changing Suggestions Control: to “Special Suggestion Button”, then click Apply and OK. Then go back to DSpellCheck settings, and change Suggestions Control: back to “Use N++ Context Menu”. Also, try exiting all instances of Notepad++ application, then run just one instance and see whether re-loading helped it.

If that doesn’t fix it, my next debug step for you would be to download the v7.8.9-64bit zip edition (“portable”), and unzip it to a known-writeable directory, like a folder in your Desktop. Run Notepad++ from there, and follow the instructions in my first post to install and test DSpellCheck in the portable edition.

[astrosofista]

Hi @PeterJones, All:

I had used the “Special Suggestion Button” in Notepad++ v7.8.7 and worked fine. However, since updating to v7.8.9, that option doesn’t work anymore. Tested on my portable with Win7 NPPv7.8.9 with lots of plugins, on a desktop computer running Win7 and a fresh install of NPPv7.8.9, and later, on another desktop computer running Win10 and a fresh install of NPPv7.8.9. No way. As the “Special Suggestion Button” ceased to work, I would suggest to select the “Use N++ Context Menu”, which as far as I have tested, works fine.

However, don’t know which application needs to be fixed.

Hope this helps.

[PeterJones]

@astrosofista said in No suggestions - spellchecker:

I would suggest to select the “Use N++ Context Menu”,

That was what I was really suggesting, but since the screenshot from @Stef-Ks showed it was selected, I suggested toggling it to the wrong value, and then toggling it back, to make sure it got set to the proper value. Like you, “Use N++ Context Menu” works just fine for me (as shown in my earlier screenshot)

[Stef Ks]

@astrosofista said in No suggestions - spellchecker:

“Special Suggestion Button”

Hello,
tried that special button and it worked once showing suggestions … then never again. Looks like there is currently no help for this problem.

[PeterJones]

@Stef-Ks ,

tried that special button

As @astrosofista and I have both plainly said, we recommend using “Use N++ Context Menu”.

Looks like there is currently no help for this problem

So far, we cannot replicate your problem when using N++ Context Menu. You have yet to show us a way to make it not work on our machines. If it isn’t broken for us, we cannot show you how to fix it. If you can show us what’s different about your system then ours, and we can replicate that and make it broken on ours, we might be able to help. Or if you try the experiments we recommend, we might be able to narrow it down or solve your problem. For example, I made two suggestions in a previous post, neither of which you commented on.

1. First, I suggested changing the Suggestions Control setting, then changing it back – you claimed you set it one way, but you never acknowledged changing it back, so I do not know whether that would have solved the problem for you.
2. I said, If that doesn’t fix it, my next debug step for you would be to download the v7.8.9-64bit zip edition (“portable”), and unzip it to a known-writeable directory, like a folder in your Desktop. Run Notepad++ from there, and follow the instructions in my first post to install and test DSpellCheck in the portable edition.

You didn’t respond to either of those, so I have to assume you didn’t try. Until you try and report the results back to us, we have nothing new to be able to help you with.

As they say, “the ball is in your court”

[Stef Ks]

Okay, installed the portable version and suggestions show (but not with special button!)Clipboard01s.jpg

[PeterJones]

@Stef-Ks ,

Great. You have just proven to yourself that it’s not impossible to work, and that you have something different between the two. And now you’re going to have to go about determining what the difference is, or eliminate the differences. We can give hints, but really, it will just require some digging on your part.

Maybe you can go through Plugins > DSpellCheck > Settings and compare the settings one at a time, making sure to look at everything.

Maybe all you’ll have to do in the installed version is exit Notepad++, go to %AppData%\Notepad++\plugins\config [*: see the %AppData% FAQ] and delete DSpellCheck.ini (which should reset all the DSpellCheck settings to default), and re-run Notepad++; DSpellCheck should re-initialize its config… you might have to re-install your dictionaries, but at that point, it should be the same as the copy in the portable. Or maybe copy the ...\plugins\Config\DSpellCheck.ini from the unzipped version into %AppData%\Notepad++\plugins\config\DSpellCheck.ini , which should make the two have exactly the same contents (though if the ini file contains paths, that might not work).

Or maybe you can uninstall the DSpellCheck, exit Notepad++, delete the DSpellCheck.ini mentioned above, then re-install DSpellCheck.

Maybe one of the other plugins (MenuIcons or CustomizeToolbar) is messing with something, so you could try disabling them: the easiest way is to exit Notepad++, then rename the directories for the other plugins, found in c:\Program Files\Notepad++\plugins\ , to something like MenuIcons--old and _CustomizeToolbar--old, because if the folder name doesn’t match the DLL filename, it won’t load. After renaming, reload Notepad++ and see if it works; if it does, then fix the name of the folders, one at a time, and figure out which one breaks it.

Those are the next few debugging steps I would go through, if I were having this problem. Unfortunately for you, I am not having this problem – nor is anyone else that’s chimed into this conversation – so you’re going to have to do the bulk of the work here.

If you need more help, describe exactly how you tried to implement my suggestions, and explain what happened with each. But whatever you do, don’t change settings in the unzipped portable edition, because that’s a known-good setup right now, and can give you something to come back to.

[Stef Ks]

@PeterJones

you have a way to keep people busy, no? ;)

I dug a little bit - see screen shot! quite a difference in folder size… the installer version seems to miss a few files?! the bigger version is the portable (64bit). I work through the other things later on… stay tuned

[Alan Kilborn]

@Stef-Ks said in No suggestions - spellchecker:

the installer version seems to miss a few files?! the bigger version is the portable (64bit)

I think if you are starting by looking at THAT for differences, you are looking at the wrong thing, and thus “spinning your wheels”.
You need to look specifically at the spell checking plugin folders and files for differences.

[Stef Ks]

@Alan-Kilborn
The size difference between portable/installer is quite too significant for my taste - hence makes me think there is something missing/wrong. I have uninstalled the installer version and work with the Portable which is good nuf even the “button” still fails to work.

whatever is … I rest my case

[Alan Kilborn]

@Stef-Ks said in No suggestions - spellchecker:

The size difference between portable/installer is quite too significant for my taste - hence makes me think there is something missing/wrong

But that size difference is not relevant to the problem you are trying to solve.
It was only suggested to try the portable version in order to get a clean testbed for diagnosing your spell checking issue.
But good for you if you are now happy. :-)

[Stef Ks]

@Alan-Kilborn said in No suggestions - spellchecker:

But good for you if you are now happy. :-)

well, certainly not my job to figure what’s wrong with this software but who is perfect anyway?

[tbotbo]

Hello community,
same behavior with my client. Until v7.7 it was possible to use the “Special Suggestion Button”. With 7.9 there appear no more suggestions. Context Menu works fine, but I prefer the other method.

Plugin DSpellCheck v1.4.17

Notepad++ v7.9 (64-bit)
Build time : Sep 22 2020 - 03:19:04
Path : C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe
Admin mode : OFF
Local Conf mode : OFF
OS Name : Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
OS Version : 2004
OS Build : 19041.572
Current ANSI codepage : 1252
Plugins : ComparePlugin.dll DSpellCheck.dll mimeTools.dll NppConverter.dll NppExport.dll

I hope for a positive result.
Best regards, Tom.