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    Reiner Block
    last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 6:33 PM

    As a view versions ago, Notepad 8.3.x won’t start anymore.

    Therefore, I started it with “-noplugins -nosession” and got the following message.

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    When I renamed said internal DLL NP++ started, loaded the session but showed no toolbar (and I think no menu) and closed after max. a second.

    Now I am back to 8.2.1 because there are no problems.

    Any idea what causes the problem?

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      Michael Vincent @Reiner Block
      last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 6:51 PM

      @reiner-block said in Notepad++ 8.3.x won't start anymore:

      Any idea what causes the problem?

      Yes, breaking changings in the API that plugins will need to recompile against. Remove that plugin, launch the new N++ 8.3 and use Plugin Admin to reinstall the latest version. For more info, see here .

      Cheers.

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        Reiner Block @Michael Vincent
        last edited by Reiner Block Feb 18, 2022, 7:29 PM Feb 18, 2022, 7:29 PM

        @michael-vincent As I said before, it seems nppAutoDetectIndent.dll is an internal DLL and not a plugin. Therefore, “-noplugins” didn’t work.

        I would have to compile the whole sourcecode of NP++ incl. the DLLs.

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          Alan Kilborn @Reiner Block
          last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 7:40 PM

          @reiner-block said in Notepad++ 8.3.x won't start anymore:

          nppAutoDetectIndent.dll is an internal DLL

          No it isn’t

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            Reiner Block @Alan Kilborn
            last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 7:56 PM

            @alan-kilborn
            I found it in the plugins but even after 3 tries to uninstall it, it was still there. So, I deleted the folder inside the plugin folder in the program folder.

            Now, 8.3.1 won’t start as I described above. :(

            It seems part of the plugins are inside the program folder and part in the user folder.

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            I guess I’ve to find a way to clean all up.

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              Reiner Block @Reiner Block
              last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 8:03 PM

              I started NP++ 8.3.1 now with the correct parameters “-noplugin -nosession” but it only started for a second and then closed again by itself. :(

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                Reiner Block @Reiner Block
                last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 8:18 PM

                Shit! How does NP++ recognizes which plugin folder to use?

                Because I copied all of <program folder>\plugins to c:\<user>\appdata\roaming\notepad++\plugins

                But after starting NP++, there were no plugins. I searched for an entry anywhere for a path that points to a plugins folder, but I found nothing. :(

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                  PeterJones @Reiner Block
                  last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 8:24 PM

                  @reiner-block said in Notepad++ 8.3.x won't start anymore:

                  I started NP++ 8.3.1 now with the correct parameters “-noplugin -nosession” but it only started for a second and then closed again by itself. :(

                  Please note that -noplugin does not equal -noPlugin. Command line options are case sensitive.

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                  The command line option you provided does nothing, and thus Notepad++ was still opening with all plugins active – and thus still crashing.

                  For future reference, plugins haven’t been intentionally installed in the ...\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++\plugins folder since about 2019 (v7.6.3 was the first stable release after the First Great Plugins Migration – the timestamp of most of your plugins from that folder are from 2015, but a few were from 2020, which surprises me that anything put DLLs there in 2020). Plugins Admin does not install plugin DLLs there. I would recommend not keeping any plugins there; I didn’t realize that it even still worked to have DLLs there (maybe it doesn’t; you don’t say whether any of those worked prior to your v8.3.x problems). I would recommend deleting all the DLL from the AppData hierarchy.

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                    PeterJones @Reiner Block
                    last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 8:25 PM

                    @reiner-block said in Notepad++ 8.3.x won't start anymore:

                    Because I copied all of <program folder>\plugins to c:\<user>\appdata\roaming\notepad++\plugins

                    Wrong direction. The <program folder>\plugins\ is the right hierarchy for plugin DLLs. and each plugin needs its own eponymous folder.

                    But after starting NP++, there were no plugins. I searched for an entry anywhere for a path that points to a plugins folder, but I found nothing. :(

                    That’s because it’s hardcoded relative to notepad++.exe.

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                      Alan Kilborn @PeterJones
                      last edited by Feb 18, 2022, 8:27 PM

                      @peterjones said in Notepad++ 8.3.x won't start anymore:

                      Please note that -noplugin does not equal -noPlugin. Command line options are case sensitive.

                      I pointed this out HERE where OP opened an issue.

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                        Mark Beaven
                        last edited by Feb 21, 2022, 1:52 AM

                        I had similar symptoms - application stopping after a few seconds after the update to NP++ 8.3.1, although I didn’t get an error pup-up. I found it was caused by the plugin “Task List”. I see you have that plugin too.

                        To resolve, I had to open NP++ with only a blank document (as soon as there is any text it crashes) and uninstall “Task List”. To be able to do this, you may have to delete your session file, “…\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++\session.xml”

                        Any files you had opened in your session will be in “…\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++\backup” so you shouldn’t lose anything.

                        Hope this helps.

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